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Post by Cassius Tue May 05, 2015 11:42 pm

When he fires Juve to the Trebel the man deserves the Balon D'or or WPOTY.

Guys been unplayable this season. Stats apart his workrate is unreal, better than any other forward out there.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 05, 2015 11:44 pm

Yeah..... no.
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Post by Cassius Tue May 05, 2015 11:44 pm

Why not?
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Post by Robespierre Tue May 05, 2015 11:47 pm

so Milito had to win it easily but he wasn't even on 22
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 05, 2015 11:50 pm

Cassius wrote:Why not?


Because there is certain player called Lionel Messi who is ripping the shit out of defenses on a weekly basis.
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Post by Cassius Tue May 05, 2015 11:54 pm

So what? When Carlitos is celebrating a historic and momentous treble he'll deserve it over the statpadders.

Been crucial in every big match we've played in and if we go further than Barca in the CL with Tevez being instrumental I don't see any reason at all why he shouldn't be up there.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 05, 2015 11:56 pm

Cassius wrote:So what? When Carlitos is celebrating a historic and momentous treble he'll deserve it over the statpadders.

Been crucial in every big match we've played in and if we go further than Barca in the CL with Tevez being instrumental I don't see any reason at all why he shouldn't be up there.


Lots of ifs in your statement Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 05, 2015 11:58 pm

IF juve gets to the final and win Coppa italia then Tevez could make the top 5 of Balon d'Or.

but no one is getting in the top 3 apart from Messi, Ronaldo and Robben.

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Post by Cassius Wed May 06, 2015 12:02 am

Only one by my count :coffee:

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Post by Cassius Wed May 06, 2015 12:06 am

Due to sheer popularity and stat padding yes, of course they will be rated higher than Tevez but the guys been a raw beast this season.

Rather have my striker score 30 crucial goals in a season than get 60 by bashing 4 everytime they face scrubs.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed May 06, 2015 12:06 am

Individual footballing awards can go and do one as far as I'm concerned. Mean nothing to me.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 06, 2015 12:12 am

Alright this is getting a bit out of hand Laughing

Let's see Juve actually finish the tie off first.
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Post by RealGunner Wed May 06, 2015 12:31 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Individual footballing awards can go and do one as far as I'm concerned. Mean nothing to me.


Tom O'Niel pls
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 06, 2015 12:34 am

Cassius wrote:Due to sheer popularity and stat padding yes, of course they will be rated higher than Tevez but the guys been a raw beast this season.

Rather have my striker score 30 crucial goals in a season than get 60 by bashing 4 everytime they face scrubs.


stat padding Laughing

Stop acting like Messi and the other names mentioned are just running amok on scrubs and not beating big teams.

Irony in all this also is Tevez wasn't even the best Juve striker tonight and if he didn't score the penalty this thread doesn't even get made Laughing
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Post by Cassius Wed May 06, 2015 12:37 am

I'm not, the only if I used is the one I still stand by. If Tevez is instrumental in leading Juve to a major trophy ie CL then his 30 odd goals are worth far more than messi or ronado's 50+.

I can't be the only one to think that way.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 06, 2015 12:39 am

Yes you are, because firstly get through the bloody semi final first Laughing
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Post by Cassius Wed May 06, 2015 12:41 am

What? Of course Tevez was the better Juve striker tonight. Morata was good aswell but not better than Tevez.

Don't know what match you saw. That argument can work wither way, morata isn't getting that goal unless Tevez finds the room to get a decent shot off.

This thread was getting made either way, his performances over the past 2 years have been magnificent.
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Post by Cassius Wed May 06, 2015 12:42 am

Okay I concede, we do need to get through this leg first before we go too crazy Razz


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Post by Robespierre Wed May 06, 2015 12:43 am

you're stopped to old Balon D'or , now the Balon d'or doesn't care about the season made at the cost of Owen winner in place of Raul , it  became even more farce than before. If your name is Messi and you scored many goals even if your season was inferior to Milito or Sneijder  , it is enough to win it.
Juve will get the treble season this year but I don't think there are chance for Tevez as winner for this reason.
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Post by Cruijf Wed May 06, 2015 12:58 am

I never understand why people bring up Sneijder's omission in 2010 as evidence for the Balon D'or being a farce.

That was the year Xavi and Iniesta led one of the best national teams in history to the World Cup, anything less than top 3 for them would've been criminal Laughing

And once again, however much people may hate individual awards, you have to remember the basis for them is individual, not who was the best player for the team that happened to win the treble that year.

The fact of the matter is, over the course of the year 2010, Messi was the best player in the world. Sneijder was a distant second fourth :coffee:
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed May 06, 2015 1:00 am

People thinking we're gonna win the treble are deluded ffs Laughing


No way in hell we'll win the coppa Italia final. Lazio are a cut above.
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Post by Robespierre Wed May 06, 2015 1:25 am

Cruijf wrote:I never understand why people bring up Sneijder's omission in 2010 as evidence for the Balon D'or being a farce.

That was the year Xavi and Iniesta led one of the best national teams in history to the World Cup, anything less than top 3 for them would've been criminal Laughing

And once again, however much people may hate individual awards, you have to remember the basis for them is individual, not who was the best player for the team that happened to win the treble that year.

The fact of the matter is, over the course of the year 2010, Messi was the best player in the world. Sneijder was a distant second fourth :coffee:


Because not even Maradona won in an only year Scudetto, Champions League , Coppa Italia, and  World Cup top  scorer ( besides not being a CF ) leading his NT to final. if Robben didn't miss that easy chance on his assist , it would have been the perfect year.
But anyway ... it is not matter of Sneijder, but it is matter of Messi to win it .
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Post by Bankz Wed May 06, 2015 12:34 pm

Winning the CL and serial A would only guarantee tevez a top 3 nomination at best, and sadly so.
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Post by S Wed May 06, 2015 12:38 pm

Robespierre wrote:
Cruijf wrote:I never understand why people bring up Sneijder's omission in 2010 as evidence for the Balon D'or being a farce.

That was the year Xavi and Iniesta led one of the best national teams in history to the World Cup, anything less than top 3 for them would've been criminal Laughing

And once again, however much people may hate individual awards, you have to remember the basis for them is individual, not who was the best player for the team that happened to win the treble that year.

The fact of the matter is, over the course of the year 2010, Messi was the best player in the world. Sneijder was a distant second fourth :coffee:


Because not even Maradona won in an only year Scudetto, Champions League , Coppa Italia, and  World Cup top  scorer ( besides not being a CF ) leading his NT to final. if Robben didn't miss that easy chance on his assist , it would have been the perfect year.
But anyway ... it is not matter of Sneijder, but it is matter of Messi to win it .


If Robben hadnt missed that chance,Robben would've won the Ballon D'or himself tbh.
Looking purely in terms of individual performances,i would argue Robben was better than Sneijder that year.
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Post by Bankz Wed May 06, 2015 12:46 pm

RealGunner wrote:IF juve gets to the final and win Coppa italia then Tevez could make the top 5 of Balon d'Or.

but no one is getting in the top 3 apart from Messi, Ronaldo and Robben.


I can bet my degree that robben isn't getting into the top 3 if barca eliminates Bayern.
Suarez or Neymar have a higher chance of that with the COPA America (if Suarez will play) and they'll have a high chance of winning it altogether should they be victorious in the tournament.
My bet in no order, Messi, Neymar, Robben, Suarez and CR7.
These 5 have been the most consistent in Europe this season for both league, cup and CL, but Injuries and Copa will hinder Robbens chances badly. My two cents though.
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