Re: La Liga 2014/15 Discussion

by RealGunner Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:54 pm

Just a minor stop lads. Moyes will rise from the ashes.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:56 pm

Absolutely. You'd expect something like that in a transition phase, too.

by iftikhar Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:01 am

RealGunner wrote:Just a minor stop lads. Moyes will rise from the ashes.

The ashes of La Real hmm

!!!

by Art Morte Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:12 am

Btw, how's Suarez doing? I don't think I've seen a single Barca game this season... I just thought he would have scored in the first five La Liga games. So, is he playing well? I'm just curious.

by Bankz Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:54 am

Yes he's been really great, but just not scoring goals atm. The goals will come eventually. Its just that we have to understand that playing with guys like messi is drastically going to reduce the output and natural influence of any wc player by a large margin..especially when messi and cr7 enter their weekly "bragging rights series/ego" game episodes..so, at that point, theres little to nothing top players like suarez, or say bale would be able to do, except tune-in and watch each episode till the series come to an end, if ever (in their present club careers).

by V Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:03 pm

Art Morte wrote:Btw, how's Suarez doing? I don't think I've seen a single Barca game this season... I just thought he would have scored in the first five La Liga games. So, is he playing well? I'm just curious.

He's getting less time on the ball, which was to be expected. Mostly alternating between right wing and centre, occupying centrebacks.

His hold up play is by far the best in the team, and once he gets accustomed to his teammates, the short passes and layoffs he's trying will be very useful.

He's had quite a few chances on goal, but his shooting is off for now, very powerful but on keeper or slightly off target.

Has 5 assists now, his final passes/crosses are great.

by Harmonica Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:48 am

Round 13 Suarez onside goal wrongfully disallowed.
Round 14 Cronaldo gets a penalty from a obvious dive, Neymar doesn't get from much harder challenge.

I'm going to start documenting this season, as it seems to be a copycat from scandalous 11-12.

by LeVersacci Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:31 am

I'll email LFP mate.

by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:27 am

Harmonica wrote:Round 13 Suarez onside goal wrongfully disallowed.
Round 14 Cronaldo gets a penalty from a obvious dive, Neymar doesn't get from much harder challenge.

I'm going to start documenting this season, as it seems to be a copycat from scandalous 11-12.

Round 14 Bale is wrongly ruled out for offside that would put him 1v1 with the keeper, Bale is manhandled in the box and no penalty given, a freekick is given when Bale was fouled inside the box

If you are going to "document" things please document everything and not bits and pieces

by Harmonica Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:40 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Round 13 Suarez onside goal wrongfully disallowed.
Round 14 Cronaldo gets a penalty from a obvious dive, Neymar doesn't get from much harder challenge.

I'm going to start documenting this season, as it seems to be a copycat from scandalous 11-12.
Round 14 Bale is wrongly ruled out for offside that would put him 1v1 with the keeper, Bale is manhandled in the box and no penalty given, a freekick is given when Bale was fouled inside the box

If you are going to "document" things please document everything and not bits and pieces

Suarez and Neymar were also wrongfully offside when 1on1.

I'm going to document the clearly affecting things, like game affecting (when the current result is close) dis-/allowed goals, or penalties given or not given.

by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:49 am

None of those wouldve affected the outcome of the game. Everyone knows we would eventually have scored and everyone knows that you would've too apart from the game against Valencia maybe

I dont know what your point is because you seem to make up criterias as you go along and test which one suits your agenda the best and when you get found out you tweak it even more hoping that nobody has an answer

by Harmonica Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:54 am

Obviously I make the criteria's when I make something. That's how making something yourself works in the reality.

by farfan Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:05 pm

am i dreaming ? are barça fans seriously talking about a " scandalous " season of refereeing involving real madrid and are complaining of diving ? rofl

everything about barça's success in recent memory involves scandalous refereeing and diving .

by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:14 pm

Which is why they can't be taken seriously because criteria you make yourself and tweak at every opportunity to fit your conclusion is called bias. If you want to test out a general hypothesis and arrive at a conclusion you have to select your population and parameters with your utmost impartiality otherwise it's usually not looked at by experts like myself with any sort of seriousness

For example

H0= Do Real Madrid get help from referees which bail them out

What you will be testing is random refereeing calls in our favour that have directly resulted in our win. The population will be Real Madrid football club (any player)

Then you will find all refereeing decisions in our favour and work out their p value. If it's equal or less than 0.05 (agreed on by a panel of statistical experts) then we will reject the null hypotesis and assume that the decisions are random. If it's greater or equal to 0.05 then we will accept the null hypotesis and conclude that yes we do get favours from the referee which help bail us out

Then you will look at the confidence interval which in this case is 95%. To be 95% confident that the favourable decisions that have directly resulted in our win is 99.999-100% keyword here is directly. Then you work this out and make a conclusion based on your findings. Only after that can I take you seriously Thumbs up

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:49 pm

Both sides get ridiculous amounts of favouring from refs and constantly dive.

End of.

by Helmer Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:56 pm

agreed, only Atletico's title is legit and all the titles won by Barca or Madrid are farce Laughing

by Harmonica Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:59 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:agreed, only Atletico's title is legit and all the titles won by Barca or Madrid are farce

They won it by wrongfully disallowed goal. Laughing

by Harmonica Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:00 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Both sides get ridiculous amounts of favouring from refs and constantly dive.

End of.

But Real gets almost twice the amount of penalties, which was the point. You can't just sweep that under the carpet making generalizations.

by Freeza Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:06 pm

These past week the refs were worse against us than the other way around ffs Laughing

the bale pen and offsides not given, free kick on bale inside box not given a pen... Isco's red card... Only talking about this shit to fit your agendas is ridiculous. The refs make mistakes and Ronaldo'spen was one of them, but when a player extends an arm fully it's hard not to make a mistake when you have limited time to make a decision.
Real get more penalties than Barca because of aggressiveness. When you play all full speed in the box it's harder to get tackled and get a penalty than when you're just walking around in the penalty box.

Mole giving his opinion without watching the games Proud

by neuro11 Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:27 pm

I din think i would get someone making excuse for Ref making mistake of that Ronaldo dive :facepalm:

madrid fans even agreed that but fanboy manage a "arm extension theory".... Laughing

by Freeza Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:08 pm

neuro11 wrote:I din think i would get someone making excuse for Ref making mistake of that Ronaldo dive madrid fans even agreed that but fanboy manage a "arm extension theory"....

Name one post where I didn't say it was a dive and a mistake. It's just hard for refs to get everything right when a player extends his arm in a slight push

by Pip Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:46 am

by Harmonica Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:24 pm

Round 13 Suarez onside goal wrongfully disallowed.
Round 14 Cronaldo gets a penalty from a obvious dive, Neymar doesn't get from much harder challenge.
Round 15 Worlds most obvious penalty not given for Barcelona.

https://vine.co/v/O6DYWehY1iu

How the feck is that even possible? Laughing

by Valkyrja Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:55 pm

Refcelona

by Hapless_Hans Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:51 pm

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Are you *bleep* kidding me?!?!?!?

what the *bleep* is going on there

by Hapless_Hans Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:51 pm

ref blows the *bleep* whistle 5 seconds early while the Getafe player is through on goal Laughing

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