Re: Transfer Rumours Thread

[B-Mac]

I'm not making him my avatar and jinxing this again

[Glory]

why the heck Mehdrid want to recruit promising youngsters all of a sudden now.
I have read Depay has excellent relationship with LvG.
It would be such a shame if he decide to choose those elite mercenaries over us despite of that.

[B-Mac]

I think we are depay preferred Club with the lvg and RVP factor...and he wouldn't get anywhere near the pitch for Madrid with bale di maria jese already there

[B-Mac]

And the fact young dutch players before him have flopped at Madrid, sneijder, robben, van Der vaart, drenthe

[Busby Babe]

Iñigo Markinez @imarkinez

Ander herrera ya está en Manchester. Ha viajado esta tarde en un avión privado.

Ander Herrera is already in Manchester. He has traveled this afternoon on a private plane.

From the reporter that first broke the story

[Busby Babe]

Manchester United: Luke Shaw expected to have medical soon

Luke Shaw is expected to have a medical at Manchester United "very soon", reports BBC Radio Solent.

United bid £27m for the 18-year-old Southampton left-back in May but the offer was rejected.

It is believed a fee may now have been agreed, given a medical has been scheduled.

Shaw became the youngest player to feature at the 2014 World Cup when he played the full game in England's 0-0 draw with Costa Rica on Tuesday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28048866?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Glory]

is it 160k a week ??   
woaa... even 100k is sky high for a 19 yo.

hmm
anyway. Glad its happening as well.
Hope he will realize the potential. and will repay the faith.

[B-Mac]

making triple of Herrera...lollllll

[Busby Babe]

Opinion of a Southampton fan (a few weeks old).

He is very good, however, I think much of the media reporting on him is lazy. I don't know whether it is just because of his age, or because he follows recent graduates of Walcott, Bale and OxC, but he is often described as very good going forward and weak defensively. He isn't weak defensively.
He stands out due to his maturity in attitude, ability and strength - at 18 he is more complete than the previous three I mentioned. He is freakily calm, confident and physically strong for an 18 year old. Defensively he has been excellent this season, in my opinion (and guess professional footballers ) the best. I have not seen him struggle at all this season, can't really remember him being beaten, for example januzaj didn't get close to beating him, Shaw was calm and faster.
IMHO, he is already ahead of Baines or Cole defensively - with the only fault being, very occasionally positioning. Due to his speed he often sits in the opponents half, even when attackers are behind him. This maybe the manager's instruction (but we've got rid of him ).
His attacking ability, at the moment, is over rated. He gets the ball forward quickly, running with it, stretching opposition, but his final product isn't great (Clyne is better going forward but trying to keep him quiet!).
Good signing? Undoubtedly. You are trying to buy potential. Remember he is 18, how many players play more than handful of games in the premier league at 18? This is his second season as well, Cole was 20, Baines 21, Evra 25, before they played at this level - and not only has he played but played well over a season, consistently to make the PFA player of the season - he is a long way better than any of those were at his age.

A lot of talk about other players failing to make their potential when hailed at this age. I think that is an unfair comparison - he is already proved his consistency, and if I can brag for a moment, is from our acedemy, you don't get better preparation. We are also big on character, Bale, OxC, Walcott, Ward Prowse, Chambers, Shaw, all level headed.
Would he be good signing? No doubt at all. If he peaks early he will be international level / top prem player for a decade, if he improves as most players do will be better than Cole who is best I've seen for while whatever I think of him!

Will he leave this window? Likely but by no means certain. He has been here since he was 8. He recently commented about how no-one can imagine playing, and being on top of ManCity at home (as said by their manager and captain) and as 18 year old there were four players who have played together for saints in same team from under 8s. We have something like 4 in under 19, including captain (another 18 year old fullback!) And two other younger players moved up - Shaw and Ward Prowse captaining u21s.
He will leave, but I am not convinced following some very positive Southampton comments by his parents, that he is in rush. He will be on huge money for his age (he can't drive) he has already made team of season and world cup so several of usual reasons for leaving are not there.appreciate its sore point but you can't offer him champions league, what if he left, and you didn't qualify again? (Personally think you will but not guaranteed).
He may think that another year or two then move to top four - he still would be youngest defender at that level.
I appreciate its a done deal in papers, but wasn't it all agreed before end of season according to them? We also had this last summer, papers waiting to announce him at Chelsea... Then he signed 5 year contract.

The other thing to remember is Southampton do not want to sell (applies for Lallana) and do not need the money.

There is a lot of wrong information printed, although they are starting to realise their errors.

Our owner has made it clear, she is not selling and doesn't think team has peaked. Her father died before our first promotion from league one - we were I think 8th league 1 when she took over, two promotions, prem 14th then 8th...she has spent the money, she only started going to games last season and clearly loves it.
The official club statement has said all young players on long contracts, do not need to sell any and money available this window.
That said, depending on money offered and players attitude to it any player can be sold, but I think fact we have turned down (from official website) multiple bids for players shows rumours of fire sale were wrong - if desperate we would have cashed in on Lallana and Shaw a month ago and be over £50m richer.

The strongest rumours, from local BBC sports news, is Lallana sulking for move, Shaw being very professional. Bids of £25 & £28 turned down. Manager likely to be Koeman (hmm famous defender, Shaw??) Or Magath, but tip for you Yakin has dropped out in odds as was signing for Moscow but believe he has pulled out, very well thought of, his agent said interested, just won Swiss league twice - where our owner lives. Anyway, reporter states that new manager will get £30-50m PLUS anything raised - Koeman could get Indi martin and classie for a lot less to replace those two.

Gut feeling, 80% likely you will get him & I wish him well.

[B-Mac]

Juventus are bracing themselves for a bid from Manchester United for midfielder Arturo Vidal. [Gazzetta dello Sport]

go on with ya bad self Woodward

[Busby Babe]

[RED]

What a day. One signing wrapped up, and a potential next in the next 24 hours.

Good Job, Woody.

[B-Mac]

[Busby Babe]

Officially sold Buttner, today. Initial fee in the region of €5.5mil. Rising to €7mil with add-ons. That's more than we bought him for. Woody has had a good week.

[Busby Babe]

Transfer news: Manchester United target William Carvalho will cost £37m

Sky sources understand he is one of the targets United’s new boss Louis van Gaal is considering as he looks to add another midfielder after signing Ander Herrera from Athletic Bilbao last week.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9369543/transfer-news-manchester-united-target-william-carvalho-will-cost-16337m

I've only seen him a few times, so I can't accurately make a judgement but he seems a bit limited to me. Like when we play Jones in midfield, but obviously better. Breaks up the play well but can't really do much else.

[B-Mac]

£37 million lolllllll pls go....pay 10 million extra and get Vidal

[Glory]

exactly mate. why the heck all the players who are linked to us suddenly have a whopping asking price.

[Busby Babe]

In this article, it says we're interested in Vidal (as well as Arsenal) and that Juventus want almost £40 mil for Vidal. Carvahlo £37 mil

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10943227/Arsenal-planning-Chile-double-swoop-as-Arsene-Wenger-targets-Arturo-Vidal-and-Alexis-Sanchez.html

Is it me, or is £40 mil surprisingly low?

[Glory]

naa 40+ for vidal is more or less the correct price. He is already 27.
his value will dip considerably after a couple of years when he touches 30. So 40 m now is fair for both parties I believe.

What is shocking for me however is the price quoted for Sanchez.
20m ??? seriously. He is a world class player and he is just 25 years of age. I simply couldnt believe Barca has valued him so so cheap and low. Even 25 m is a bargain according to me. So whoever land him be it Arsenal or LolPool (God forbid) its gonna be one heck of a swoop for them.   That said genuinely hope he ends up in a non PL team now that we are no longer in for him.
20-25 for Sanchez and 27 for fellaini

yea 37 m for Carvalho is outrageous btw.

[Busby Babe]

I think for us, as the buyers, Vidal is worth around £40 mil, but for the seller, Juventus, he's worth more than that to them as their best player.

Like if someone tried to buy van Persie he'd probably be worth £15 mil but that wouldn't even tempt us as the seller.

Idk, how Juve's current financial situation is though, so £40 mil might be very tempting to them.

On Sanchez, if we buy a CM and CB it will probably take our spending to £100 mil+, maybe not enough in the war chest to fund another winger. I'm okay with not getting a winger, this season because we won't be so dependent on creativity from the wings: Herrera + the new CM, Rafa and Shaw can provide good width, Mata being an assist machine and Andreas Pereira might also be able to make the step-up like Januzaj did. There's also the chance we might not play with wingers, and play 5-3-2. Although, I think this is unlikely.

Also, Reus' buyout clause comes into effect next season, €35million (£28million), if he decides to leave of course 

[Hapless_Hans]

fwiw, Italian media claim we actually made a bid for Vidal around 40m€ and it was rejected.

Would attach too much, or any , substance to it, even if we might need to get some CM if Kroos indeed joins Real.

Also that *bleep* Vidal snubbed us once already after having a verbal agreement in 2011

So, everyone and their mother is linked with Vidal.

[Busby Babe]

Damn Kroos joining Real Madrid, ruined our 5% chance of getting Schweini

[Hapless_Hans]

Nothings certain yet re Kroos to Real; the noise sure is getting louder but still it's just noise.
I would think it's not 100% sure we don't have him stay his remaining year.






The first of the 5 stages of grief is denial, I think.

[Busby Babe]

You're indeed in denial I think Kroos is off to Real Madrid, but you can never be a 100% sure until you see the player holding up the shirt I guess.

[Busby Babe]

fwiw, it's not just Marca, it's Sky Italy too. I'm not sure what BILD have been saying though

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/484488058503692288

[Hapless_Hans]

BILD has been saying Kroos agent met with Real several times, there have been negotiations but it is not a done deal.

That was a couple of weeks ago though. Now they're just reporting the Spanish reports.

Another thing is of course they have to make a deal not just with Kroos but with us. 20m € would make me pretty disappointed, tbh.

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