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Post by Forza Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:15 pm

Adit wrote:Basically means Pirlo sucks defensively.

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Yeah it's a shame his lack of defensive work has limited him to a mediocre career.

rofl brilliant

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Post by The Franchise Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:24 pm

I think this picture is merely a complement to Pirlo. It shows his true class, to dominate a game despite not being a "great athlete".

He cant defend? Yeah so what, you put other things in place and taking advantage of it isnt quite as simple as you think.
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Post by messixaviesta Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:35 pm

The Franchise wrote:I think this picture is merely a complement to Pirlo. It shows his true class, to dominate a game despite not being a "great athlete".

He cant defend? Yeah so what, you put other things in place and taking advantage of it isnt quite as simple as you think.


Yes but as we have discussed before I often wonder what it would be like to see Xavi at this age with the same setup that Pirlo gets i.e. lots of runners and workers on all sides of him and complete liberty to control everything.

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Post by donttreadonred Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:42 pm

Casciavit wrote:
The Franchise wrote:World Cup: Group D discussion - Page 20 10360342_814028148631217_1541489994648118110_n


looool rofl

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I see the English still haven't figured out the concept of working smarter, not harder.
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Post by Jay29 Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:38 pm

Or they could be showing how a player can still be great without running around an awful lot.

Hard to tell without the proper context.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:10 pm

In all fairness to ITV/BBC whichever one it was, they showed a stat before that showing how Pirlo covered more distance than a lot of the other players.
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Post by Casciavit Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:11 pm

donttreadonred wrote:
Casciavit wrote:
The Franchise wrote:World Cup: Group D discussion - Page 20 10360342_814028148631217_1541489994648118110_n


looool rofl

Pirlo Proud
World Cup: Group D discussion - Page 20 Facepalm

I see the English still haven't figured out the concept of working smarter, not harder.


Erm, yeah, you took that post out of context. Can't believe you're telling me, i'm not appreciative of Pirlo's genius. You know, its not like I wasn't watching him week in and week out for nearly 10 years. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:21 pm

Amazing how things can turn on the internet Laughing

They were just showing stats as a point of discussion.... nothing to do with Pirlo well the sprints thing was but that was used as a way to praise him.

The English media do nothing but wank over Pirlo, not the opposite lol.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:22 pm

English media slaughter him for being old in-between tournaments, then they hop on his dick for a month or two Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:26 pm

Don't remember the English media ever talking about Pirlo inbetween tournaments tbh.

But when the tournament comes around they speak about him like he's the inventor of passing the ball Laughing

Anything they say about him is always positive.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:27 pm

When the draw was made, Chiles and the boys didn't shut up about how old he was and how he never moved. But yeah when tournaments come around they jump on the Pirlo bandwagon.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:35 pm

Not in this case at all, but I think generally speaking over the years Italy have been the nation the English pundits like to talk bad about.

Every single time they speak about how old they are or how "no more than 1 or 2" would get into England's team...and yet every time they win.

I repeat here is not the case, I didnt see it, but I am very sure the graphic was simply to show how you dont need to charge around the pitch to be a great midfielder.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:12 pm

In training now Prandelli is trying: Buffon; Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini; Darmian, Verratti, Pirlo, Marchisio, De Sciglio; Balo, Immobile
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Post by Ganso Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:48 pm

no de rossi :facepalm:
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Post by zarola Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:31 pm

Ganso wrote:no de rossi :facepalm:


De Rossi is injured

so looking like a 3-5-2 Surprised
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Post by Red Alert Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:53 am

World Cup: Group D discussion - Page 20 PAtSkIj

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Post by Jay29 Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:07 pm

Hodgson has named the starting eleven for tomorrow:

Foster

Jones - Smalling - Cahill - Shaw

Lampard (c) - Wilshere

Milner - Barkley - Lallana

Sturridge

Basically anyone who hasn't played is getting some game time; expect Fraser Forster and Rickie Lambert to come on as subs.

That left hand side of Shaw, Wilshere and Lallana could do some damage, so expect us to play predominantly down the right hand side.

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Post by Art Morte Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:00 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:Hodgson has named the starting eleven for tomorrow:

Foster

Jones - Smalling - Cahill - Shaw

Lampard (c) - Wilshere

Milner - Barkley - Lallana

Sturridge

Basically anyone who hasn't played is getting some game time; expect Fraser Forster and Rickie Lambert to come on as subs.

That left hand side of Shaw, Wilshere and Lallana could do some damage, so expect us to play predominantly down the right hand side.


If that's true, it's disappointing - although wouldn't be a surprise after Hodgson's failures in the two games.

Why the hell field Lampard? Just try Henderson - Wilshere.

Why Milner instead of Sterling or Oxlade?

Jones as RB when Johnson has really performed well there?

And Foster simply isn't going to be a starting keeper for England in the future.

A number of backward steps there. What an awful manager, bloody hell if he really is keeping his job after this fiasco.
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Post by Jay29 Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:08 pm

Calm down Art. He's only giving starts to those who haven't had much game time this tournament, just to give them a taste of the tournament. Foster, Jones, Smalling, Shaw Lampard and Milner haven't had any minutes; Wilshere's barely played 30 and Barkley and Lallana have only appeared from the bench. Chamberlain's injured, otherwise would've gotten a start as well.

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Post by RealGunner Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:49 pm

With Lampard-Wilshere in a pivot, can't see us keep a clean sheet. Maybe we can try Wilshere as RW and Milner as CM?

It doesn't matter in the end. I do hope we win and go out with 3 points at least.
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Post by lenear1030 Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:02 pm

Wilshere plz dont get injured
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Post by BeautifulGame Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:59 pm

Should rest Sturridge as well and give Lambert a start. He kinda deserve it will never get another chance
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Post by Robespierre Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:04 am

We have already booked a flight to return in Italy.

DAT reverse jinx
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Post by Gil Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:08 am

Robespierre wrote:We have already booked a flight to return in Italy.

DAT reverse jinx


Laughing
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Post by M99 Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:13 pm

Uruguay XI: Muslera; Caceres, Gimenez, Godin, A.Pereira; Gonzalez, Arevalo Rios, Rodriguez, Lodeiro; Cavani, Suarez.

Italy XI: Buffon, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, De Rossi, De Sciglio, Verratti, Pirlo, Darmian, Balotelli, Immobile.

England XI: Foster; Jones, Cahill, Smalling, Shaw; Milner, Lampard, Wilshere, Barkley, Lallana; Sturridge.

Costa Rica XI: Navas; Gonzalez, Miller, Duarte, Gamboa;, Diaz, Tejeda, Borges; Ruiz; Campbell, Brenes.
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Post by McAgger Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:17 pm

Woy doesn't want Stevie to break Beckham's cap record Sad
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