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Post by Onyx Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 1:54

Why waste money by buying bananas just to throw them. hmm

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Post by rwo power Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:11

BTW, just look at Manu Neuer's broad grin about the banana stuff Very Happy

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(AFAIK no one ever tried that again because he didn't get upset, but considered it in fact high praise.)


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Post by Freeza Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:15

I really think people has a tendency to label everything as racism. They're massive idiots, sure. But it isn't really racism, just because they think Alves' face looks like the face of a monkey.
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Post by Guest Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:22

Freeza wrote:I really think people has a tendency to label everything as racism. They're massive idiots, sure. But it isn't really racism, just because they think Alves' face looks like the face of a monkey.

It wasnt racism when Biscuits called Marcelo mono either eh?

Delusional.

Class from Neymar though
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Post by Gil Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:22

Freeza wrote:I really think people has a tendency to label everything as racism. They're massive idiots, sure. But it isn't really racism, just because they think Alves' face looks like the face of a monkey.

What the *bleep*?
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Post by rwo power Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:25

Betty La Fea wrote:It wasnt racism when Biscuits called Marcelo mono either eh?
So you think bananas for Oliver Kahn and Manuel Neuer are due to racism? o_O
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Post by Freeza Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:26

Okay so throwing bananas after a white guy that looks like a monkey is not racism. But throwing bananas after a latino that looks like a monkey is racism. It's discrimination based on facial features, and it's should result in fines and bans for the fans involved. Just don't agree with it being racist.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:27

Has a point tbf

Sure, you have racist idiots who fully intend it to be 'racist'

Then you have just idiots doing it without racist intention.

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Post by rwo power Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:29

That. It should be fined as it can be dangerous, but it is not necessarily racist.
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Post by Guest Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:30

rwo power wrote:
Betty La Fea wrote:It wasnt racism when Biscuits called Marcelo mono either eh?
So you think bananas for Oliver Kahn and Manuel Neuer are due to racism? o_O

No, but when players call black players mono while trying to shield their mouth, and the fans throw bananas, we know the truth.

Folks are trying to be obtuse to what is going on in Spain.

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Post by Guest Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 2:30

Freeza wrote:Okay so throwing bananas after a white guy that looks like a monkey is not racism. But throwing bananas after a latino that looks like a monkey is racism. It's discrimination based on facial features, and it's should result in fines and bans for the fans involved. Just don't agree with it being racist.

They throw it at him because hes black...lets get real.

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 3:05

I believe it was a good reaction and the only positive thing to be mentioned out of that whole instance. However, although his reaction was funny, he should still not be pressurized to do as such.

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Post by The_Badger Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 4:22

Freeza wrote:I really think people has a tendency to label everything as racism. They're massive idiots, sure. But it isn't really racism, just because they think Alves' face looks like the face of a monkey.

Are you trolling or just naive?

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Post by Ganso Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 4:35

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Post by farfan Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 4:40

Ganso wrote:Dani Alves dealing with racism - Page 2 SnaeIJP

what's the context of this pic ?
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Post by Forza Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 5:55

Freeza wrote:Okay so throwing bananas after a white guy that looks like a monkey is not racism. But throwing bananas after a latino that looks like a monkey is racism. It's discrimination based on facial features, and it's should result in fines and bans for the fans involved. Just don't agree with it being racist.
I agree that people tend to (incorrectly) label anything that distinguishes different races from each other as racist. However, this not the issue in Alves' case.

I think it is naive to say that the banana-thrower was discriminating on the basis of facial features. In Bale's case, I could understand that theory, but I think that the far more likely scenario is that Alves' case was an attempt at racial vilification. The banana connotes that Alves is a monkey, an inferior species to white humans. The belief that different races are ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other is the very definition of racism. This is an appalling incident and Alves should be praised for handling it so well.
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Post by Mr_Puyol Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 6:37

Lol Alves should join the LA Clippers.
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Post by Winter is Coming Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 6:42

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Post by rwo power Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 9:52

I think the original mistake was giving the morons power by taking the monkey sounds as insults in the first place.

If the media and players would have turned it around by saying / reporting "we never thought there were so many monkeys among the fans" (as *they* are the ones behaving and sounding like monkeys) and thus ridiculing *them* instead, this behaviour would have evaporated in no time.

I mean, if a monkey makes such sounds at me or throws a banana at me (which is monkey behaviour, not standard human behaviour), I wouldn't think that *I* am a monkey - the one is standing before me.
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Post by Kamikaze692 Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 10:05

Genius way of dealing with situation. I wish Figo had thought of this as well, when they were throwing Pig heads and Whiskey bottles at him over at Camp Nou.

Shame that racism still exists in the football, but I have to say that the LAST set of fans i'd expect this from is Villareal. They are generally counted amongst the most classy and "homely" group of fans in Spain. They don't even have a set of Hardcore Ultras IIRC, which makes this and the Tear gas canister incident last month even more surprising and shocking.
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Post by M99 Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 12:16

Alves :bow:

Nerman :bow:
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Post by free_cat Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 14:40

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Has a point tbf

Sure, you have racist idiots who fully intend it to be 'racist'

Then you have just idiots doing it without racist intention.


No, he doesn't have a point because Alves doesn't look like a monkey:

Spoiler:
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Post by free_cat Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 14:44

farfan wrote:
Ganso wrote:Dani Alves dealing with racism - Page 2 SnaeIJP

what's the context of this pic ?

Mascherano started to cry at the end of the game, probably grieving for Tito.
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Post by Zealous Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 15:05

Yohan Modric wrote:Alves:

"Eating Banana? I've been living in Spain for 11 years, and 11 years laughing at these retards."

Alves is an official ambassador for FIFA (I think or some other body) for helping people that suffer from mental disability Laughing

Anyway Alves only "laughs" at these issues when they are convenient to him. Not a word when they happen elsewhere.

Fair play for the Banana incident though although I wouldn't recommended eating stuff like that, he has no idea where it has been Laughing
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Post by Abramovich Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 15:12

*bleep* Spain  :facepalm: 
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Post by Freeza Mon 28 Apr 2014 - 15:23

Well guess it's my mistake then, I just don't consider Alves black in any way. And it if it wasn't because of his facial features, why was it only him it was being thrown at? (could be others didn't watch the game). I would assume that racist wouldn't treat some mixed different than others.
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