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Post by Kaladin Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:18 pm

Coentrao ffs Molenation

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:19 pm

This is a fair point


Possession whores make me laugh. Somewhere along the line a few years ago, people managed to forget that the objective of football is to outscore your opponent. And they somehow decided that possession should, in fact, determine the winner.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:19 pm

Last year Bayern raped barca both games on counter by finishing their chances and without holding much possession. No one cried, hail bayern.

People have somehow become convinced that this possession trend means that one team is better than the others because they hold more possession. frak that shit.

footy is like a game of chess, we baited them, and they fall into our trap. boohoo be mad
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Post by harhar11 Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:20 pm

Zealous wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
Lupi wrote:They might still lose in Munich but i saw RM as the better team in this game.  Bastian schweinsteiger nor kroos could turn up in this game and carletto won the battle between managers. Munich weren't dangerous until muller stepped in. Nice to see the effective football overcoming obsessive possession based football

Nah, it's sad. It seems that the future of football is having 10 men inside your area and then counter-attack. And as you saw last night, when 2 team who uses that style play against each other, its a boooooooooooooooring game..

Then go watch cricket.

Rather than that, I just don't see Real Madrid, Chelsea or Atleti play unless its a big game.

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Post by juventus101 Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:20 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:An idiots guide to debating


Step 1. Assign the person you're debating with a random age. I.E 12

Step 2. Call them out for being '12'

Step 3. Win

So....youre calling me an idiot? Seriously?

And El Gunner, im really not worked up at all. I havent insulted anyone either. I seriously thought he, and anyone else who acts like that on an internet forum, was 12 years old. Im completely calm though, if it doesnt seem like it then I apologize.
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:21 pm

RealGunner wrote:Guardiola on lack of true scoring opportunities: "They have a good defence."

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Post by Lupi Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:21 pm

harhar11 wrote:
Lupi wrote:They might still lose in Munich but i saw RM as the better team in this game.  Bastian schweinsteiger nor kroos could turn up in this game and carletto won the battle between managers. Munich weren't dangerous until muller stepped in. Nice to see the effective football overcoming obsessive possession based football

Nah, it's sad. It seems that the future of football is having 10 men inside your area and then counter-attack. And as you saw last night, when 2 team who uses that style play against each other, its a boooooooooooooooring game..

Lets see what was the perfect scenario for Bayern, they kept the ball at mid encouraging Madrid players to attack and use space behind them, something that did not happen.That made pep to switch the formation. The bottem line is a team wants to create space and time for attackers to hit the target,isnt that the case ?
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:22 pm

harhar11 wrote:
Zealous wrote:
harhar11 wrote:

Nah, it's sad. It seems that the future of football is having 10 men inside your area and then counter-attack. And as you saw last night, when 2 team who uses that style play against each other, its a boooooooooooooooring game..

Then go watch cricket.

Rather than that, I just don't see Real Madrid, Chelsea or Atleti play unless its a big game.

In that case do us all a favour and stop commenting in these threads. Your whining is somewhat entertaining but really you should save yourself and the rest of us the trouble.


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Post by Pedram Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:22 pm

Tbh even MT is convinced the possession football doesn't win you games anymore, that says something about it.
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Post by farfan Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:23 pm

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BarrileteCosmico wrote:I was at work, only saw the highlights, but I thought people were predominantly hyping him for the goal which looked as easy as they come.

http://fat.gfycat.com/JitteryPoliteHydra.webm

dat pass

Extremely bad pass tbh since it was bouncing all over the place. Should have just rolled it through on the ground.

Shocking miss from CR though.

Now THESE are great passes

http://gfycat.com/VioletOrdinaryEgg


i have this sinking feeling that the two misses will cost madrid in the second leg  pale


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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:23 pm

Sacchi:"I told Ancelotti, look at the bvb-bayern game. when a team lose like that it's because something is not working..."

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Post by El Gunner Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:23 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Last year Bayern raped barca both games on counter by finishing their chances and without holding much possession. No one cried, hail bayern.

People have somehow become convinced that this possession trend means that one team is better than the others because they hold more possession. frak that shit.

footy is like a game of chess, we baited them, and they fall into our trap. boohoo be mad
Thought you didn't watch the game hmm
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Post by Jack Daniels Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:24 pm

Ok you guys.. Calm down.

Juve101 was just giving his negative opinion, rant or whatever about the game no need to get sissy mad at him.

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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:25 pm

It was a nice team play goal by Real Madrid, but it could've been prevented Alaba decision in that play was shocking. No one was coming down the middle he was with Benz and decides to go towards Coentrao who was already being chased by Dante and Boateng, leaving Benz wide open, even if the cross/pass got through Neuer could've reached out or Alaba could've applied some defensive pressure on Benz instead he failed to clear it came in Neuer way and left Benz wide open.
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:26 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Sacchi:"I told Ancelotti, look at the bvb-bayern game. when a team lose like that it's because something is not working..."

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:28 pm

Fantastic attacking display by Bayern.. 71% possession. :bow:
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Post by RealGunner Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:28 pm

Sacchi: "Bayern know how to do it, but they have done it at half the speed required. "
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:28 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:It was a nice team play goal by Real Madrid, but it could've been prevented Alaba decision in that play was shocking. No one was coming down the middle he was with Benz and decides to go towards Coentrao who was already being chased by Dante and Boateng, leaving Benz wide open, even if the cross/pass got through Neuer could've reached out or Alaba could've applied some defensive pressure on Benz instead he failed to clear it came in Neuer way and left Benz wide open.

shoulda, coulda, woulda, let's rewrite history like that.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:29 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Last year Bayern raped barca both games on counter by finishing their chances and without holding much possession. No one cried, hail bayern.

People have somehow become convinced that this possession trend means that one team is better than the others because they hold more possession. frak that shit.

footy is like a game of chess, we baited them, and they fall into our trap. boohoo be mad
Thought you didn't watch the game hmm

i havent yet, but it's easy to understand what happened.
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Post by jibers Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:30 pm

Perfectly set up by Carlo. Madrid should have been up 3 goals by half time. Guardiola and his weird decisions. Bastian should not have started, Martinez, Gotze and Muller should be starters in the next game. The passive attacks are getting ridiculous, they had no penetration till Muller came on. Madrid have this tie in the bag. Bayern have to attack in the next game. I'm going with 2-1 Real Madrid on the return leg.
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Post by Lupi Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:31 pm

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Post by harhar11 Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:32 pm

Lupi wrote:
harhar11 wrote:
Lupi wrote:They might still lose in Munich but i saw RM as the better team in this game.  Bastian schweinsteiger nor kroos could turn up in this game and carletto won the battle between managers. Munich weren't dangerous until muller stepped in. Nice to see the effective football overcoming obsessive possession based football

Nah, it's sad. It seems that the future of football is having 10 men inside your area and then counter-attack. And as you saw last night, when 2 team who uses that style play against each other, its a boooooooooooooooring game..

Lets see what was the perfect scenario for Bayern, they kept the ball at mid encouraging Madrid players to attack and use space behind them, something that did not happen.That made pep to switch the formation. The bottem line is a team wants to create space and time for attackers to hit the target,isnt that the case ?

From what I saw, most of the time the ball was just outside Real Madrid's penalty area. They were trying to create by either crossing the ball or dribbling mixed with some shots. What else can you do? If you saw last night game, then you would have seen that it does not matter what style you use against a 10 man wall. They are all as ineffective as each other. All you can do is hope that you get lucky..

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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:33 pm

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He looks like an Italian Carvajal lol
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:33 pm

So we're all just going to pretend that it takes no skill whatsoever to set a team up to do what Madrid done, and do actually carry it out to near perfection?

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Post by RealGunner Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:33 pm

Looks like a 16 year old Baines
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Post by El Gunner Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:35 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
El Gunner wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Last year Bayern raped barca both games on counter by finishing their chances and without holding much possession. No one cried, hail bayern.

People have somehow become convinced that this possession trend means that one team is better than the others because they hold more possession. frak that shit.

footy is like a game of chess, we baited them, and they fall into our trap. boohoo be mad
Thought you didn't watch the game hmm

i havent yet, but it's easy to understand what happened.
Yeah, you're on the right track but I personally wouldn't say you guys baited them.
Madrid played a very well organised game, and Bayern who weren't at their best were made to look very pointless with their possession football by Madrid's game plan. Madrid, as the ever beasting counter attacking team that they are, scored on a fabulous one and could've done so on 2 more other occasions.
In a nutshell, I would say Madrid played a wise game and they got the reward. Thumbs up
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