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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:27 pm

there is a little bit of a debate going on about this guy. In french medias for example, the biggest sports radio made it a topic, and similar some spanish journalists that i follow are doing the same on twitter.

So what's the GL consensus about the guy?
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:37 pm

Has every single tool to be great and sometimes is great, but has the occasional moment of disaster.
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Post by The_Badger Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:38 pm

I think he's world class, easily top three centre backs currently playing in the game today.

Barca should move heaven and earth to get him in the summer, he's just what they need.

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Post by Valkyrja Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:40 pm

The_Badger wrote:I think he's world class, easily top three centre backs currently playing in the game today.

Barca should move heaven and earth to get him in the summer, he's just what they need.

Considering that City needs money right now, it will be easy for them. But still they need to buy Pique and Alba replacements.
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Post by futbol Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:11 pm

Moves far too high up the pitch and lands on his ass against skillful attackers every single time. Build to battle with classical EPL lanky #9s. Poor man's Vidic basically.

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Post by Art Morte Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:08 pm

World-class.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:15 pm

Depends on the system. He was very meh last year in a base traditional system because his mistakes were in the box or right at the edge of the box. With Pelle, City plays a high line... so he can make the mistake and recover. Doing a lot better with the high line system since he can use his athleticism to overcome his defensive fundamentals' flaws.

He's like Pepe to me.
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Post by harhar11 Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:16 pm

I think that his performance against us has been a tad bit overrated by the media. In the first leg, it was he who broke the offside trap when demichelis got sent off, and last night, Messi was getting past him with ease..

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:19 pm

Doesn't seem to be able to cope with tricky attackers well at all

That being said, he's definitely a top 10 CB, maybe even top 5 depending on who you ask
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Post by futbol Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:20 pm

He fell about 5 times on his ass trying to land a tackle yesterday and could have been easily sent off with a few reckless challenges, 1 that could have been interpreted as a last man tackle. English media still portrayed it as some sort of captain fantastic performance. Tells you everything you need to know about his reputation and where it stems from.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:31 pm

No doubt the English media, particularly sky sports on CL nights, kiss up to players from the BPL

However, i'd struggle to name more than 6 or 7 defenders better than him, some would be debatable
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:53 pm

Fantastic organiser, beast in the air and leader.

But he struggles so much 1 v 1 sometimes its a detriment to his team.

Although it must be said defensively he plays with utter scrubs.... Fernandinho is the only decent defensive midfielder they have and even he has taken a while to adapt to the role.

Yaya, Silva and Nasri add f*ck all defensively.... meanwhile it doesn't matter who you want to name but their LBs are f*cking crap be it Clichy, Kolarov and same goes for any of his CB partners

Zabaleta is the only other decent defender they have and even he is overrated, so basically Kompany and Fernandinho are keeping them afloat defensively by themselves.

So i'd make a guess that with better help he would do a lot better as in individual 1 v 1 defender.
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:56 pm

He was crap for a long while this season, compared with the others at Man C hes much better. What I like about him is his determination and attitude. Ability wise I dont think hes that great. Overall very good but has weaknesses and off form at times. If Man C sign another top CB to partner I think he can be even better.
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Post by LeBéninois Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:17 pm

Kompany is better than 85-90% of the CB out there. he also possesses great leadership.
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Post by futbol Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:43 pm

Bénin wrote:Kompany is better than 85-90% of the CB out there. he also possesses great leadership.

People say he is a great leader because he is wearing the armband, comes across likeable, talks well in pressers and acts the tough guy on the pitch by screaming out injustice after the ref blows a foul after every one of his multiple mis-challenges. In organizing his defense on the pitch I don't see much leadership. One time he charges 60 yards forward to foul Iniesta in his own half, other times he is 5 yards behind the rest of his defensive line and messes up the offside trap. He's physically strong, good on the ball and plays for the pride of England (God knows why the English press have chosen City to be that right now). That's about it.

He might be better than 85 % of the other CBs around but what does that even mean? It's the major weak link of every top team nowadays. According to Transfermarkt these are the top 10 most valuable centerbacks right now:

T. Silva
Ramos
Pique
Kompany
Boateng
D. Luiz
Hummels
Marquinhos
Varane
Chiellini

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Post by Valkyrja Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:21 pm

Fußball wrote:
Bénin wrote:Kompany is better than 85-90% of the CB out there. he also possesses great leadership.

People say he is a great leader because he is wearing the armband, comes across likeable, talks well in pressers and acts the tough guy on the pitch by screaming out injustice after the ref blows a foul after every one of his multiple mis-challenges. In organizing his defense on the pitch I don't see much leadership. One time he charges 60 yards forward to foul Iniesta in his own half, other times he is 5 yards behind the rest of his defensive line and messes up the offside trap. He's physically strong, good on the ball and plays for the pride of England (God knows why the English press have chosen City to be that right now). That's about it.

He might be better than 85 % of the other CBs around but what does that even mean? It's the major weak link of every top team nowadays. According to Transfermarkt these are the top 10 most valuable centerbacks right now:

T. Silva
Ramos
Pique
Kompany
Boateng
D. Luiz

Hummels
Marquinhos
Varane
Chiellini

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Lulz. No Mascherano ?
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Post by LeBéninois Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:52 pm

Fußball wrote:
Bénin wrote:Kompany is better than 85-90% of the CB out there. he also possesses great leadership.

People say he is a great leader because he is wearing the armband, comes across likeable, talks well in pressers and acts the tough guy on the pitch by screaming out injustice after the ref blows a foul after every one of his multiple mis-challenges. In organizing his defense on the pitch I don't see much leadership. One time he charges 60 yards forward to foul Iniesta in his own half, other times he is 5 yards behind the rest of his defensive line and messes up the offside trap. He's physically strong, good on the ball and plays for the pride of England (God knows why the English press have chosen City to be that right now). That's about it.

He might be better than 85 % of the other CBs around but what does that even mean? It's the major weak link of every top team nowadays. According to Transfermarkt these are the top 10 most valuable centerbacks right now:

T. Silva
Ramos
Pique
Kompany
Boateng
D. Luiz
Hummels
Marquinhos
Varane
Chiellini

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 Laughing Keep  :bow: Transfermarkett then.
Also Varane, Marquihos might be in that list because there are youngers mainly. Valuable is the key word here.
Pique isn't better than Kompany right now.
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Post by LeBéninois Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:53 pm

I'd take kompany in my team and make sure that my tactics don't expose much of his flaws. that how good i think he is.
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:56 pm

Ok hold on.. He fell straight on his ass.. well that's considering he was up against messi or iniesta 1v1.. a fired up iniesta/messi 1v1.. I hope you realize those two are near impossible to take the ball away from when actually playing at their 100%. Like literally impossible..
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Post by BarcaLearning Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:17 am

Thats interesting that every top team's CB area is a weaklink, thats kinda true and a bit strange why in the past maybe its not like that....

Dante is underrated, I think hes one of the best.
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Post by Ganso Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:55 pm

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Post by LeVersacci Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:56 pm

rofl rofl rofl
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:58 pm

bad enough to get sent off for a last resort foul against Hull, obviously.

That's a blow for City's title ambitions..
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Post by LeVersacci Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:58 pm

Vincent Kompany: Man City quadruple a matter of time

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Post by Lex Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:16 pm

This f*cking thread rofl
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