Are Spanish teams outside of the BIG 3 underatted

by Ruben Pardo Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:58 am

I feel that teams like Valencia, Bilbao and Sevilla have been underrated for quite some time now.

I think the old big 2 definitely made them look worse then they were when in reality they were around the level of Tottenham.

In fact right now i think Bilbao is a top 20 team in the world, the quality of football they play is like 'Bayern Lite' very entertaining, fast paced and Direct, But also as individuals they show a lot of class, Muniain, Ander and Benat are fantastic

You've also got teams like Villarreal and Sociedad who ain't that bad either

by BarcaLearning Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:06 am

Not sure if they are still underrated, they have been successful in Europe for the past few seasons at least, taking turns. Bilbao knocked out Man U Very Happy

Valencia did well despite their finances and stars sold and Sevilla achieved high.

People always talk about Spanish league like there is only 2-3 top teams, but for those that knows, thats definitely not true. Its just Real and Barca are that much better.

Same thing a bit happening with German league. But u can say the other teams or the league suck just becos the top 2 are that good.

by Highburied Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:23 am

Big 3 ? LOL

by Ruben Pardo Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:34 am

Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL

Oh please...coming from an Arsenal fan LOL...Mesut Ozil is a flop and Arsene is a professional loser, Atletico are a lot better than LIL'Arsenal

Good luck in the champons league BTW HAAAAAAAAAAA

by Mr_Puyol Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:42 am

Ruben Pardo wrote:
Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL

Oh please...coming from an Arsenal fan LOL...Mesut Ozil is a flop and Arsene is a professional loser, Atletico are a lot better than LIL'Arsenal

Good luck in the champons league BTW HAAAAAAAAAAA

https://i.imgur.com/Hh5P2gk.gif

by McAgger Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:02 am

Valencia got raped 0-3 at home by 14th place team in PL. I think they are rated just fine.

by Highburied Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:13 am

Ruben Pardo wrote:
Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL

Oh please...coming from an Arsenal fan LOL...Mesut Ozil is a flop and Arsene is a professional loser, Atletico are a lot better than LIL'Arsenal

Good luck in the champons league BTW HAAAAAAAAAAA

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by Ruben Pardo Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:03 pm

McAgger wrote:Valencia got raped 0-3 at home by 14th place team in PL. I think they are rated just fine.

Valencia also got beaten 4-1 by Villarreal around that time...a bad patch

after that they beat Swansea 1-0, topped the group and are still in the competition

by Ruben Pardo Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:06 pm

Highburied wrote:
Ruben Pardo wrote:
Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL

Oh please...coming from an Arsenal fan LOL...Mesut Ozil is a flop and Arsene is a professional loser, Atletico are a lot better than LIL'Arsenal

Good luck in the champons league BTW HAAAAAAAAAAA

ENJOY playing Bayern at the Allianz Arena in a few weeks time, while Atletico play Milan at the Vicente Calderon

by VendettaRed07 Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:14 pm

Probably

by RealGunner Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:16 pm

Ruben Pardo wrote:
Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL

Oh please...coming from an Arsenal fan LOL...Mesut Ozil is a flop and Arsene is a professional loser, Atletico are a lot better than LIL'Arsenal

Good luck in the champons league BTW HAAAAAAAAAAA

You are new so let me say it nicely

Stop trolling.

by BarrileteCosmico Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:17 pm

Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL

Is big 3 any less ridiculous than the "big 7" the English media has come up with? At least all these teams are within 3 points of each other.

by Chumlum Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:23 pm

Generally I think this "which league is best / overrated / underrated" is just a dumb question. What actually constitutes the best and the criteria that people use to decide are never agreed on. So rational discussion is almost never the result of topics like these.

The way some people feel compelled to weakly flex nuts to justify their particular favorite club/league is just :facepalm:

But certainly La Liga is full of a lot of great players. Spain is producing an incredible wave of talent. I dig Bilbao.

I have no idea why Arsenal-Bayern got brought up in this thread, but let the record show that Arsenal did quite well last time they visited there.

by Onyx Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:03 pm

Atletico need to win something this season to show that they're actually part of the 'big 3'.

Regarding the likes of Bilbao, Valencia, Sevilla, they're decent teams, but they definitely need to show more consistency in order to get to the next level. You have some of those teams performing well one season, next season they struggle and the season after they show potential again. Hopefully if the TV rights thing gets fixed, they'll have more money and they won't need to sell their big players.

by Donuts Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:09 pm

why do they have to win anything to be called the big 3?
Arsenal haven't won shit, but somehow they are the big 4 unless you guys really buy into the 4th place is like a trophy crap wenger says.

also rg why do you ignore the obvious troll against this thread and retaliate only to the defense of that troll..

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:20 pm

Valencia lol? same Valencia who got battered by f*cking Swansea.

Sevilla haven't been relevant since Barca broke their team apart.

Bilbao might hold some weight but that's it.

They are not underrated at all, they are rated just fine just because people don't rate your teams as high as you do don't make them underrated.

by Onyx Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:21 pm

Arsenal are just Arsenal, everyone knows they're superior to Atletico Madrid.

by Arquitecto Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:28 pm

Rather disappointing that people continue to name Valencia who deserve nothing of praise before Pizzi took them over while La Real and Villarreal are continued to be ignored. Wake up, its not 2009. Look at the table.

MT wrote:Arsenal are just Arsenal, everyone knows they're superior to Atletico Madrid.

Everyone? And superior on the basis of what?

by S Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:00 pm

A valid argument can be made to not actually think that a 'Big 3' exists in La Liga.

First of all they're not a financially sustainable club.Every season they are pretty much forced to sell their top players because of their precarious financial situation.

Secondly,its only in the past couple of seasons that they're able to finish higher up the table.Previously they've been through a lot of inconsistent spells eventually finishing in Europa league places despite having good squads.

Even if they are enjoying a bit of success right now,at some point eventually their limited resources might put them back to square one where they have to again go through a process of rebuilding and consolidating their position.

In other words,they need to consistently finish higher up the table and maybe perform in Europe to the level they're doing now to be branded as a 'Big 3' team in Spain.

by BORUSSIA!! Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:14 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Arsenal are just Arsenal, everyone knows they're superior to Atletico Madrid.

how can anyone make a statement like that. is this guy a troll or just a really bad poster.

by Tomwin Lannister Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:23 pm

Agreed with S

It's too early to be talking about a 'Big 3' when club number 3 is only just finally finding that consistency.

by LeSwagg James Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:40 pm

Ruben Pardo wrote:
Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL

Oh please...coming from an Arsenal fan LOL...Mesut Ozil is a flop and Arsene is a professional loser, Atletico are a lot better than LIL'Arsenal

Good luck in the champons league BTW HAAAAAAAAAAA

Well, that escalated quickly Laughing

Anyways I don't think they're underrated, I think the likes of Sociedad, Villareal, Valencia, Sevilla and Bibao are rated fairly for the most part.. After that who really cares? I don't think anybody rates more that 7 teams in any given league anyways

by Lex Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:01 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Highburied wrote:Big 3 ? LOL
Is big 3 any less ridiculous than the "big 7" the English media has come up with?

Yes, way, way, way, way more ridiculous. Bastion Booger level of ridiculous

by Highburied Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:07 pm

Sorry I had to laugh...

No matter how good Atletico can be this season , they are billions behind Top 2.

And what Arsenal has to do with this thread?

I could be a neutral , what would you say?

'Your neutral team sucks'...

by zigra Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:29 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Arsenal are just Arsenal, everyone knows they're superior to Atletico Madrid.

Don't know what it's like somewhere else but in Germany the league is underrated imo (and has been for a long time).

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