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Post by Myesyats Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:22 am

If you are against Israel doing genocide in Palestine, you ought to be against Russia engaging in genocide in Ukraine. If you support one side and not the other, it means the propaganda is working on You.

I am against both Israel and against Russia, because I am against genocide. Not supporting one side just because they're fighting against the "west" or the "east", that is exactly the sign of someone who's been propagandized.

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Post by Pedram Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:00 pm

I'm not on anyone's side, just someone who believes endless wars can only be stopped if the military machine of the West loses on multiple fronts. that means in Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan etc...

The only way to achieve multipolarity and a fairer world is to weaken the Western-led neoliberal hegemonic world order that has been dominating the globe since the end of the Cold War. that includes weakening the institutions that props up these systems too, like IMF, World Bank, WEF.

These elites have been openly waging a war on the working class and the oppressed people in the Global South. the CEO of the largest healthcare corporation gets assassinated in broad daylight and people bombard the news with laugh Emoji, on fucking Facebook too which is not exactly a bastion of hate for these people. Laughing so what does this tell you? it should be obvious to everyone that we're living in a era of worldwide dissatisfaction, a crisis of confidence if you will.

People on both the left and right are sick of being ripped off and their lives reduced to being a slave to a system that does not works for them. thankfully people are finally fed up and raising up. we're seeing the systematic breakdown of this ideology in multiple places. France and Germany, countries in Eastern Europe, Middle East, South America, US itself.

Rest assured i'm under no illusion that changes will be swift, they will try as hard to cling to what is left of their soft power and influence around the world but events in the past few years are irreversible, you cannot claim to be the defender of Democracy and Freedom while supporting a genocidal state with more weapons. the mask is off and people are seeing the ugly side of the Empire.


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Post by Myesyats Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:57 pm

The results seem different so far, more multipolarity = more wars and closer to a possibly a human exctintion level world war as probably never before.

Authoritarian states getting prominence is not good at all and each time we had some sort of multipolar world it was disastrous (both world wars, napoleonic wars, seven years war)

We are already in multipolarity and it's looking grim, it's never going to be several superpowers living peacefully with each other, at least historically it always failed. Probably as idealistic and utopian as communism
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Post by Myesyats Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:00 pm

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0022002786030004001?icid=int.sj-abstract.similar-articles.9

The long cycle model agrees that multipolarity is the least stable arrangement but it depicts unipolarity as the most stable and least conflictual phase in the system's cyclical concentration/deconcentration process. These arguments are tested empirically by first operationalizing polarity and warfare between global powers for 490 years (1494-1983) and then determining how much warfare is associated with each type of polarity. Aggregating across the entire period, global warfare has been least likely in years of unipolarity and near unipolarity, slightly more prevalent in bipolar years, and much more probable in multipolar contexts. Disaggregating time, however, indicates that bipolarity, in certain periods, can be as destabilizing as multipolarity.

multipolar world = more wars
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Post by Pedram Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:46 pm

Myesyats wrote:https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0022002786030004001?icid=int.sj-abstract.similar-articles.9

The long cycle model agrees that multipolarity is the least stable arrangement but it depicts unipolarity as the most stable and least conflictual phase in the system's cyclical concentration/deconcentration process. These arguments are tested empirically by first operationalizing polarity and warfare between global powers for 490 years (1494-1983) and then determining how much warfare is associated with each type of polarity. Aggregating across the entire period, global warfare has been least likely in years of unipolarity and near unipolarity, slightly more prevalent in bipolar years, and much more probable in multipolar contexts. Disaggregating time, however, indicates that bipolarity, in certain periods, can be as destabilizing as multipolarity.

multipolar world = more wars




Well how is that unipolarity working for you? the system basically runs on perpetual wars. believe it or not, peace is not something the outside world associates with Pax Americana.

A unipolar world dominated by one superpower does not equate world peace, it just means one side gets to rape the entire world freely and steal their resources with the oppressed side having no means to combat it militarily or diplomatically.
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Post by Myesyats Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:24 pm

I never said unipolarity means no wars, just that scientific evidence proves bipolarity and multipolarity means even more wars than unipolarity so wishing for multipolarity because you wants less wars is logically inconsistent (that's not a jab or anything, it's what history and raw data clearly shows)

I understand America has fucked the Middle East, im just pointing out that multipolarity will probably end this world, as shown by recent developments.

We basically already live in a multiporal world and it;'s not going well, the only way for peace is true unipolarity with everyone under the same banner but that's also utopian because people are tribal
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Post by Pedram Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:49 pm

Myesyats wrote:I never said unipolarity means no wars, just that scientific evidence proves bipolarity and multipolarity means even more wars than unipolarity so wishing for multipolarity because you wants less wars is logically inconsistent (that's not a jab or anything, it's what history and raw data clearly shows)

I understand America has fucked the Middle East, im just pointing out that multipolarity will probably end this world, as shown by recent developments.

We basically already live in a multiporal world and it;'s not going well, the only way for peace is true unipolarity with everyone under the same banner but that's also utopian because people are tribal


I'd totally support a one world government if it meant we wouldn't get in the way of each other in that system or someone trying to impose their will on other members but yeah with the way human psyche works... not gonna happen in the near future or ever at all.

I know multipolarity doesn't have a good track record in history but the current status quo is also not working for everyone so i'm willing to give it a chance, see if we as humans can come up with something different. i'm naturally a optimistic person so i always believe an equal and fairer world is possible but it requires sacrifices from world powers and their economic interests.

At the end of the day the root cause of most wars is the scarcity of resources, we're constantly at each other's throats because we believe if we don't expand and grow we will basically perish as a civilization. it's all zero-sum thinking and foreign policy realism that dictates this dark view of the world onto everyone.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:21 pm

Deep state already had a briefing with Trump. Aid to Ukraine will keep coming + even more defense spending

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Post by Myesyats Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:33 pm

I'm always amazed at how swiftly he can transition from direct threats to "Hey let's help each other Polsza" Laughing

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:39 pm

Poles seem like the ones least likely to fall for his bs
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:46 am

Not sure how this is not an act of war by Russia. But but NATO is provoking us Laughing

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:54 am

I wonder whether in 50 years historians will say that WW3 started in 2022
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