Euromaidan demonstrations & Russia's intervention in Ukraine

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:54 am

Finland and Sweden officially invited to join NATO after Turkey's concerns were addressed.

For anyone still thinking that this invasion was motivated by avoiding a larger NATO border mission failed...

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Post by Myesyats Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:01 am

I knew Erdogan playing tough guy would not amount to much. He literally gained nothing of merit in the negotiations, only optics for his domestic theater

•Commitment not to support PYD/YPG and FETO.

Easy one, we didn’t do that to begin with

•No embargo and restrictions in the field of defense industry.

This one too is easy because we didn’t have an embargo.

Taking concrete steps on the extradition of terrorist criminals

Meaningless because it’s up to the Finnish courts and law.

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Post by VivaStPauli Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:29 am

Myesyats wrote:I knew Erdogan playing tough guy would not amount to much. He literally gained nothing of merit in the negotiations, only optics for his domestic theater


Like many autocrats, basically anything Erdogan does is for the benefit of his domestic prestige. The economy has gone downhill under his rule, most Turks, especially the urban ones, don't really love his very conservative brand of Islam, and Turkish families are networked really well, while Erdogan has censored Turkish media, they have absolutely no problem getting all information they need from foreign relatives, so his grasp on the Turkish government is tenuous - he absolutely needs to look good domestically, and he needs to keep finding foreign threats to unite the Turkish people behind him, before they start questioning whether he's doing more harm than good.
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