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Post by RealGunner Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:52 pm

Speaking of commentary. Michael Cole was brilliant at EC. Forgot to mention it but he had the JR effect on most of the matches.


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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:55 pm

All joking aside I do like Michael Cole, would feel weird without him commentating, as it did for me when JR left.
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Post by Casciavit Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:57 pm

Emma rofl :facepalm:

I'm not a fan of women wrestling, but I came across a match of her vs Natalya and there was some hype around it lol. And she impressed me.

The match was gold compared to the the divas matches you see nowadays.

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Post by zizzle Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:19 pm

WWE can save the main event by putting Bryan in there. He doesnt have to win, he'll just carry the two other boring *bleep* and make the match more entertaining. He'll get close to winning but gets screwed by the authority somehow allowing Batista to win.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:32 pm

Why not just make Taker and Lesnar the main event?

Taker matches steal the show every year and practically are the main event.

If anything Taker matches being as great as they are take away from the actual main event, as they have to follow it and can't live up to the standard.

It would make for an overall better show IMO.
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Post by Onyx Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:35 pm

Batista will get more heat than the sun has ever produced next week in Chicago. Also those CM Punk chants. Proud hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:39 pm

Well it's called the windy city for a reason so maybe they don't get much sun hmm
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Post by zizzle Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:54 pm

Best piece of merch on WWE.com

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Post by Onyx Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:21 am

Tyler Reks was on Asked with Riv and Landin to promote his new book and website. During the interview, Reks stated that many lower card talent in WWE are often confused as to why their pushes end so abruptly, and read the wrestling sites to find answers about what's really going on behind the scenes.

When Reks was asked why WWE no longer releases main roster talent, he explained that WWE now waits until contracts expire rather than releasing people out of the blue.

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Post by silver Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:31 am

Every wrestler, not just Bryan, have their same set of moves/routine that they do every match. Eg Cesaro's multiple uppercuts, Sheamus' clubbing blows in the ropes, brogue kick and Celtic Cross, Orton's powerslam, followed by rope assisted DDT followed by RKO attempt.

The only interesting/fresh moveset is the Shield's (especially Rollins).
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Post by M99 Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:11 am

Silver is right. In WWE every wrestler has their 'signature moves'. People like to nitpick on every thing Bryan does in this forum but RG is right. He is very fun to watch and gives more 5 star matches than anyone else in the roster. His matches with John Cena on Summerslam, Sheamus on Extreme Rules, Bray Wyatt on Royal Rumble, Cesaro on RAW, Randy Orton on RAW after Royal Rumble, Jericho on NXT (his WWE debut) are some examples in case you missed most of his matches.

His moveset is better than most people on the roster. 95% of his arsenal are just kicks in a gross exaggeration. I guess CM Punk also does kicks all the time. And Bray Wyatt does clotheslines all the time. Other wrestlers punch, he kicks, this style fits his size. As RG said, he is a great technical wrestler and can do some insane counters and pull of some nice superlex variations too. Not to mention he is an exciting high flyer. Almost all of his matches are high octane and he fills it with excitement with his moveset. I wish WWE would let him use more submissions considering he is a submission specialist and made his name for that on ROH. All he does on WWE is the Yes Lock and half leg Boston Crab. His Cattle Mutilation is one of the most awesome submission finishers I have ever seen. Screw the WWE for not letting him use that.

Still I doubt all that matters. For some posters it is an established fact that Bryan is an overrated wrestler with a meh moveset, has less charisma than Great Khali and is worse than Ryback on the mic. Point out his great matches, it is brushed of as Bryan being 'carried' by Cena, Wyatt, Orton etc.

Bryan does have charisma. He is not The Rock but he has more than enough charisma. He would not have gotten this popular if he was so uncharismatic. He was never pushed down our throats or had a comedy gig on the internet to get him over. Simply he got over after pulling out all the great matches and being the underdog that everyone loves. He was being cheered even when he was a heel. Heel Bryan was an even bigger coward than Orton is now and got even worse booking but he was still cheered. The fans hijacked The freakin Rock's promo with Yes chants when he was a heel and WWE eventually turned him face again.

His mic work is good. He held his own against CM Punk, John Cena and other elites on the mic and never looked out of place. When was the last time he gave a boring promo or missed lines or made botches? ( I guess the answer will be all the time by some people here) Never expect him to give an Austin 3:16 or CM Punk pipebomb or something near that level. What he does is simple stuff, he gets the job done. His promos are engaging and sometimes excellent. The one where he called Michael Cole a poor man's JR on NXT is probably the greatest promo ever on NXT and the one where called Cena a parody of wrestling (triggering an internet explosion) was one of the best promos of 2013 after Mark Henry's fake retirement, The Rock concert, AJ Lee's pipe bombshell, CM Punk's boxing with God and The Rock Concert. When he was a heel, he pulled of the arrogant champion/coward/abusive boyfriend pretty good too. I don't think he will ever be an elite on the mic but he is still the most over guy on the business without being an elite mic worker, I don't think he really needs to be an elite either seeing how the crowd eats up whatever he says. Benoit won the world title on the main event of Wrestlemania and without nostalgia clouding my judgement, I can say that while being a better wrestler than Bryan (and one of the best technical wrestlers the WWE has ever had) he was far worse than Bryan on the mic. Seriously he as bad, the only cool thing he would say was 'I'm gonna tap...you...out' and also he did not have so much charisma either. Less than Bryan actually.

The hysteria on Bryan/Batista could have been avoided. No one can deny Bryan deserved a run with the WWE Championship. He works his ass off and is one of the wrestlers who works both RAW and Smackdown regularly while pulling off breathtaking, fantastic matches. He has been the most over superstar for quite a while and he has an excellent attitude backstage and never complains or whines about anything and put up with the shit WWE made him go through with the goat jokes. His moment finally came at Summerslam after gave Cena his first clean defeat since one a half year vs The Rock (yes clean, the injury was real not storyline. WWE tired to cover up the injury as much as possible and Cena continually has said Bryan beat him fair and square.) and all seemed well after he lost the title 2 minutes later and then won it again one month later to only be stripped of the title by Triple H 24 hours later. If Bryan had a championship run for Summerslam till Survivor Series, no one would have minded him not winning the Royal Rumble. But after seeing Bryan continually screwed by The Authority and getting no revenge or payoff at all is what made this situation so bad. With the way the storyline progressed, it seemed natural to see Bryan win the Royal Rumble and getting the big payoff at Wrestlemania 30. Instead we got a ring rusty Batista winning it in his first match after four years and thus the shitstorm begun with Batista in the middle of it. What Austin said is 100% correct. Delaying the payoff too much would make it anticlimatic. It's what happened to Jeff Hardy. He was super over and got continually buried by Triple H in the WWE title matches and when he finally won the title at a B grade PPV, the moment was huge but it could have been a lot bigger if it happened earlier.

All we can do now is just wait and hope WWE does what they should have done a long time age and give Bryan what he deserves and most importantly what the fans want. Those girls who were crying when he lost at Elimination Chambers were not smarks or anything? They love him, everyone loves him. At one point I really hated the Yes chants but it keeps getting stronger every passing day and more and more people keep chanting it at even non WWE events. It's more than a fad, fads don't last two years do they? No point in fixing something which is not broken, Yes chant is fine and fans love Bryan's current gimmick even though I feel his American Dragon on ROH was much better. He can be the American Dragon if the Yes chants end. The little tough guy who kicks the crap out of everyone is a simple but very effective gimmick which has worked for him for years. If he wins the title, he will do what everyone does, defend while give the spectacular matches he always gives. They can easily make a storyline of The Authority still trying to screw him, injure him and take the title of him but him defying them. Or give him a personal feud vs Bray Wyatt, John Cena coming out and saying 'I never got my rematch' etc. His title run will be fine if he wins it and won't ruin anything.

At least WWE has made Bryan an established main eventer now. He has a huge match with Triple H on Mania, if he was B+ player he would not have gotten within 100 feet of that match. Bryan's biggest gain is that Vince has fallen in love with him. Just like all the WWE fans worldwide has. Vince has told everyone to stop calling Bryan derogatory stuff like short, ugly or goatface and is pushing hard to expand the Yes movement to now WWE stuff. Bryan was officially #3 after Cena and CM Punk in merchandise sales in the latest listings. Now with Punk gone, Bryan can be the #2 guy in the company and have a long title run like Punk did. He can be WWE's secondary poster boy like Punk, face Orton and Batista was to Cena all these years until Roman Reigns becomes the man.

Believe in Bryan.

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Post by Firenze Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:39 am

Bryan's only involved with Triple H at Mania because CM Punk threw a tantrum and left leaving them scrambling for someone to replace him against Trips. He was scheduled to have a filler feud against Sheamus or something according to all those reports MT was posting.

I don't really see that as them believing in him enough to make him the #2 star behind Cena. In fact it's hogwash and will never happen. Batista coming back and getting top billing by management is enough proof of their belief in him.

Also disagree with your assertion that Vince has fallen in love with him, he's simply the antithesis or what Vince is well known to be infatuated with. I think the derogatory stuff has stopped because Bryan will be involved in a significant match at Mania and Vince doesn't want it to seem like a joke.

Touched on why Bryan has little charisma so many times and the reason why he's over that's it's not worth repeating.

It seems like you're firmly in the 'Bryan should win the title at Mania' corner, so the tears after he loses to Triple H and Batista wins the titles amid boos are going to be delicious Proud
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Post by Firenze Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:49 am

Just saw Batista's MMA debut rofl

I fancy my chances against him tbh, his opponent :facepalm: and he still looked like crap.
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Post by M99 Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:36 pm

@Firenze wrote:Bryan's only involved with Triple H at Mania because CM Punk threw a tantrum and left leaving them scrambling for someone to replace him against Trips. He was scheduled to have a filler feud against Sheamus or something according to all those reports MT was posting.

I don't really see that as them believing in him enough to make him the #2 star behind Cena. In fact it's hogwash and will never happen. Batista coming back and getting top billing by management is enough proof of their belief in him.

Also disagree with your assertion that Vince has fallen in love with him, he's simply the antithesis or what Vince is well known to be infatuated with. I think the derogatory stuff has stopped because Bryan will be involved in a significant match at Mania and Vince doesn't want it to seem like a joke.

Touched on why Bryan has little charisma so many times and the reason why he's over that's it's not worth repeating.

It seems like you're firmly in the 'Bryan should win the title at Mania' corner, so the tears after he loses to Triple H and Batista wins the titles amid boos are going to be delicious Proud

Ignore most of my post and spew hate on Bryan. Exactly what I expected.

Yeah I think Bryan 'should' win the title at Wrestlemania but I am not as naive as MT to believe that will happen. What I expect to happen in Triple H to beat Bryan after interference from Kane and after the match Bryan beats up Kane, does the running knee and leads a YES YES chant.

It's clear that faith in Bryan has increased and all reports are saying it is because of Vince's support. Plan B in case of Punk getting injured was Roman Reigns but now it's Bryan who is set to face HHH. They are finally starting to believe in him.
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Post by Firenze Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:15 pm

I didn't 'ignore' it, it's just you didn't say anything new that hasn't already been debated to death. Go back and read my previous posts for my opinions & counters.

As far as Bryan being hugely entertaining in the ring thanks for the mentions of some examples, some I haven't seen and will check out to try to understand the mindset of why he's highly regarded by a few people here, not much point debating it however because everyone has their own preferences and taste on what styles they find exciting. I've never said anything regarding his in ring ability except that I think it's a myth that he's some super elite GOAT wrestler this generation.

@M99 wrote:
It's clear that faith in Bryan has increased and all reports are saying it is because of Vince's support. Plan B in case of Punk getting injured was Roman Reigns but now it's Bryan who is set to face HHH. They are finally starting to believe in him.

A+ players aren't plan B at Mania, they already have their spots set in stone. Bryan is a B+ player currently.

If Punk was still around Bryan would be feuding against Sheamus or Kane at Mania. Just remember that. Does that sound like someone Management can see main eventing as their #2 star for the future? I think it's desperation rather than faith. Reigns is definitely not ready, he's got a good look, but beyond that he's very limited.
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Post by M99 Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:15 pm

After the Royal Rumble things CHANGED. The overwhelming reaction during and after Royal Rumble has caused WWE to CHANGE their stance on Bryan. They know they got something huge on Bryan, Vince has seen the light. If Punk was still around they still would have gotten Bryan a big match, maybe make the WWE World Heavyweight title a triple threat match which they were seriously contemplating on doing only a few days ago.

Batista was signed in October, at that point Bryan did not have the faith of the management. It was immediately after the Rumble that the Sheamus match got nixed becuase WWE know Bryan needs to be in a bigger match, either against Triple H or the title match itself.
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Post by Onyx Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:44 pm

As I said previously, why he's over or what he's good at or what he isn't doesn't matter. Not everyone's perfect, Bryan is unique in his own way. WWE isn't all about 6ft5, 300 pound create a wrestler bodybuilders. It's about unique individuals and characters.

Fact is Bryan is over and WWE believe in him, otherwise they wouldn't book him so strong and they wouldn't constantly screw him out of the title. It's leading upto something big. They know they have something big with Bryan and with WWE desperate for top main eventers, I'm sure they won't mess it up.

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Post by Onyx Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:45 pm

Adrian Neville became the new WWE NXT Champion at tonight's Arrival event by defeating Bo Dallas in the Ladder Match main event. Shawn Michaels, who wasn't expected to appear after he was pulled from the pre-show, introduced the main event.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:35 pm

Yeah lmao Batista looked awful against some fat mess rofl


Batista another one who let his muscles boost his ego to the point he thinks he can fight, despite never throwing a punch before Laughing


He'd still knock Rey Mysterio out though.
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Post by zizzle Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:25 pm

Batista went on Twitter last night and ripped fans that continue to boo him:

"Amazing how people can turn their failures as human beings into hatred of people making the most of life. #losers F em!! #dreamchaser"

"And you really do t want to miss #smackdown this Friday Smile Peace to all my positive people! Only forward!"
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Post by RealGunner Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:25 pm

He wanted too much to be like Brawk
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Post by RealGunner Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:26 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Adrian Neville became the new WWE NXT Champion at tonight's Arrival event by defeating Bo Dallas in the Ladder Match main event. Shawn Michaels, who wasn't expected to appear after he was pulled from the pre-show, introduced the main event.

Bo Dallas rofl
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:31 pm

Not gonna lie though, Batistas ego is legit, I like his attitude Proud
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Post by Onyx Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:34 pm

Part of his tweet said he didn't mind people booing him.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:36 pm

Well he isn't going to admit it bothers him

The fans would boo him 24/7
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Post by Onyx Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:32 pm

In Demand has released the new promotional poster for WrestleMania XXX, which you can check out below:

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Bryan should be in the middle instead of Cena imo. hmm

Also pretty much confirms Triple H is wrestling.

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