The Impact of Eden Hazard at Chelsea versus Neymar at Barça

RealGunner wrote:How can ANYONE argue Suarez isn't a top 6 player after a season he has had?

Messi & Neuer are in a separate league, followed by Suarez, Neymar, Robben, Ronaldo.

Then the likes of Müller, Hazard, Benzema, Sanchez, Boateng, Alaba, De Bruyne come in.

Sounds about right.

Ganso wrote:Ibra isnt even a top 10 player anymore

How so? He's still pulling it for PSG despite being injured for a while, he only played 24 games this season and has 19 goals and 7 assists

El Shaarawy wrote:I'd say that Suarez, CR, Messi, Ibra, Benz and Robben all are ahead when on form. But atm, i think he can find a spot ahead of some

You can strike both Ibra and Benz off that list.

inb4 CL

still can't see how dribbling a lot makes one a top 5 player

Benz is arguable, but for him to actually be seriously considered he needs to leave Madrid and be the focal point for somebody else instead of always looking for Ronaldo.

Makes it difficult to actually consider him otherwise.

El Shaarawy wrote:

Ganso wrote:Ibra isnt even a top 10 player anymore

How so? He's still pulling it for PSG despite being injured for a while, he only played 24 games this season and has 19 goals and 7 assists

i have watched most PSG games this season and i can say he has been awful in the majority of the matches he played in. sports can confirm

i have no idea where his playmaking skills from his milan days went to

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Benz is arguable, but for him to actually be seriously considered he needs to leave Madrid and be the focal point for somebody else instead of always looking for Ronaldo.

Makes it difficult to actually consider him otherwise.

this is very true to an extent, but looking at his overall abilities he is a monster in the own right still, comfortable anywhere on pitch, technique, IQ is extremely high and proven big game player

chad4401 wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Benz is arguable, but for him to actually be seriously considered he needs to leave Madrid and be the focal point for somebody else instead of always looking for Ronaldo.

Makes it difficult to actually consider him otherwise.

this is very true to an extent, but looking at his overall abilities he is a monster in the own right still, comfortable anywhere on pitch, technique, IQ is extremely high and proven big game player

Agreed, but he won't get the credit for it in Ronaldo's shadow sadly. At least Suarez has the Uruguay and Liverpool destruction to cling to.

Good points tbh.I agree.

Ganso wrote:

El Shaarawy wrote:

Ganso wrote:Ibra isnt even a top 10 player anymore

How so? He's still pulling it for PSG despite being injured for a while, he only played 24 games this season and has 19 goals and 7 assists

i have watched most PSG games this season and i can say he has been awful in the majority of the matches he played in. sports can confirm

i have no idea where his playmaking skills from his milan days went to

I've watched a majority of PSG games as well (Not because its headed by my country ) and i haven't noticed significantly different in his style nor a severe drop in his plays. If anything, its the fact that he doesn't need to playmake as much or score that many goals compared to his Milan days, since the PSG team has other reliable avenues in both regards.

@mole yeah I feel he should leave, to truly prove his worth, but i had always hope that madrid would give him some room to take over games, that only happens when the season is on the line

RealGunner wrote:How can ANYONE argue Suarez isn't a top 5 player after a season he has had?

Suarez, Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo and Robben are in  a separate league.

Then the likes of Bale, Hazard, Benzema, Sanchez comes in.

^This
Neymar is a confirmed top 5 player and I don't know how it's still a debate tbh, along with Suarez, messi, Cr7 but I think robben will naturally drop down that list, but yeah, they're all exclusively in their own league..

I'm sorry but this 'top number x player' nonsense has to stop.

None of you bother to include any players apart from strikers or attacking midfielders, and since football isn't played just with attacking players this whole exercise cannot be called anything other than an ENORMOUS FAIL

I think we are talking about forwards

Haven't you heard Hans? All defenders suck

I think its a little too easy for players to be top 5 nowadays

El Shaarawy wrote:I think we are talking about forwards

But I've seen Benzema's name mentioned.




















































Come at me, Plebs Rebs.

Hapless_Hans wrote:I'm sorry but this 'top number x player' nonsense has to stop.

None of you bother to include any players apart from strikers or attacking midfielders, and since football isn't played just with attacking players this whole exercise cannot be called anything other than an ENORMOUS FAIL

If I bothered to spend any logical thought process into it instead of writing stuff for the giggles on here I'd also say it's impossible to rank footballers in absolute numbers who are so close to each other in ability and differ mostly because of circumstances, teammate performances, tactics, form, luck etc.

Suarez vs. Robben? Obviously Suarez had the better season now but on ability who is "better" in a vacuum? Can you truly rank that in numerical order? Something like Messi vs. Reus is clear as day but what about Özil vs. de Bruyne? Lewandowski vs. Benzema? De Gea vs. Courtois?

But luckily I don't spend time using my brain whenever I'm on GL so:

1. Messi
2. Suarez
3. Neymar
4. Robben
5. Hazard
6. Cristiano

it is.

Fußball wrote:

El Shaarawy wrote:I think we are talking about forwards

But I've seen Benzema's name mentioned.




















































Come at me, Plebs Rebs.

You took too long for that one ffs, been waiting for 10 mins

El Shaarawy wrote:

Fußball wrote:

El Shaarawy wrote:I think we are talking about forwards

But I've seen Benzema's name mentioned.




















































Come at me, Plebs Rebs.

You took too long for that one ffs, been waiting for 10 mins

It's been a long season, I'm just tired right now. After recharging my batteries and having a preseason I'll be razor sharp again for 15/16.

Futbol has a brain? i'm genuinely frightened by the possibilities.

It's just funny that whenever it's Ballon D'Or award season everyone is quick to point out how ridiculous they think the award is, team sport and all, but then spend all the rest of the year arguing about who are the 'top 3' or 'top 5' players and in which order lol.

This is the first time i have gave an order in probably years

I now remember why i don't

stfu with all the reasoning and logic

i'll call rg to ban all of u

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:This is the first time i have gave an order in probably years

I now remember why i don't

Because no one takes orders from a Geordie pleb?

Fußball wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:This is the first time i have gave an order in probably years

I now remember why i don't

Because no one takes orders from a Geordie pleb?

Stfu u hamburg pleb.