Re: The Walking Dead II

by RealGunner Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:16 am

McLewis wrote:Some of you are way too harsh honestly. You complained when the show was in safe zones like the farm and the prison and now you complain when the shit has hit the fan and everyone's scattered? FFS.

And honestly, it's tough to top the tone set by the opening episode. This episode wasn't anywhere near as powerful, but I thought it was well written nonetheless. Sure the acting wasn't as strong, but these characters do tend to grow more into their roles at the season wears on.

I personally enjoyed this episode almost as much as I did the last one and I'm frankly glad that a lot of it is out in the open again. One thing I do wish is that that they be a bit bolder in killing off characters that really aren't needed (looking at you, Bob). I'm also willing to bet the chick Glen's with will die within the next couple of episodes imo. Heard some dialogue in the previews that said as much.

You have a valid point. Like I said in my post, the episode was gripping enough to watch in one sitting. Specially with the suspense etc but as you would know, watching Tyrese like this is really sad. Lizzy did try her best to act as psycho as possible but that whole scene was a bit meh. Enjoyed the others though. Wish Daryl had a bigger role but I guess his arc wasn't really that important.

Half of them will reunite soon imo. They are basically all in the same region and matter of time till they meet up.

Regarding killing off characters. You know where Tyrese etc are headed? It's THAT town Wink

by LeVersacci Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:16 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:What exactly happens at the end of the last episode of the last season of the show in the comics? Do they find a cure or something that makes everyone normal/kills all walkers?

lmao why would you want to know that? That would just ruin the whole show. Unless you are planning to give up.

Typical MT lmao

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:40 pm

MT loool

He does the same for WWE, he actively seeks spoilers before watching the match

Insanity at its purest form.

by Onyx Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:02 pm

If something's really really good, then I'll avoid spoilers. However TWD's at a point now where it's getting repetitive with no end in sight.

by McAgger Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:26 pm

Couldn't agree more MT Proud

by Onyx Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:22 pm

Biggest problem is the actual plot never advances. It's just the group trying to survive from place to place every season. It could go on for infinite seasons if all they did was survive every season. Just put them in a new location every season and have them survive until everyone's eventually dead. However would people actually be happy with that? I mean if TWD came out and said that's what they intended when they wrote the show, then fair enough. However I don't think TWD is meant to be one of those survival shows that lasts forever.

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:04 pm

Tbf MT you're right

The show seems a bit aimless, and considering the TWD survivors have been wandering around the same part of America, there's not even a real change in scenery. The show could do with a new arc.

by McAgger Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:46 pm

It's season 4 and they are nowhere near figuring out some sort of long term life plan. Humanity is over as we know it, there must be something, somewhere, that's working towards building some sort of society. Or maybe a cure. Or at least figuring how the the deadly disease spread or come to existence in the first place.

Look it's 4 seasons of the same bs, surviving and running around the same part of America. They really need to up their games, from what I can tell this show has some terrible writers and will probably get canceled from a drop off in ratings.

by Firenze Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:04 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Biggest problem is the actual plot never advances. It's just the group trying to survive from place to place every season. It could go on for infinite seasons if all they did was survive every season. Just put them in a new location every season and have them survive until everyone's eventually dead. However would people actually be happy with that? I mean if TWD came out and said that's what they intended when they wrote the show, then fair enough. However I don't think TWD is meant to be one of those survival shows that lasts forever.

It's a character drama. The actual zombie outbreak is just a backdrop setting used to showcase human nature. "Just Surviving" is the plot. Only problem is they do a piss poor job at developing interesting characters. Can anyone say they've genuinely cared about more than 3-5 of the dozens and dozens of characters we've seen across the seasons so far?

Now, I haven't read the comics since before the show was announced, so maybe it has diverted from that narrative, but if you're expecting them to find some kind of cure and live happily ever after or stumble across a time machine that takes them back to before this all happened, then I think people are going to be disappointed.

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:07 pm

Agreed about the characters

For a show that focuses so much on that aspect, there's so many characters I literally do not care about one bit after YEARS.

Plus they tend to kill off the best ones.......

by McAgger Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:10 pm

I think they started off really really well. The first 2 seasons was really goat. I mean I like d all the characters. There was an actual fear of them possibly losing their lives at any moment. It's been downhill ever since.

by Firenze Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:14 pm

Yeah one thing I like is that they always make interesting villains/anti-heroes

Merle, The Governor and Shane are all among the best and pretty complex characters. At least by the standards of the others on the show.

I think maybe a reason for that is that they got a lot of focus, I guess when you have so many people, it's hard give a lot of screen-time to develop them into interesting characters.

by RealGunner Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:16 pm

The problem is that the TV Show has already reached halfway through the comics. AND they did it while making their own personal arcs which doesn't happen in the comics.

Half of season 1 doesn't happen in the comics. The whole farm season doesn't happen either.

They do it because they can effectively get up to date with the comics in just 2 seasons if they wanted. They have to make up all of this to stay far away from where the comics is now unless Kirkman tells them how he wants to finish the show which he won't.

That is the problem with them 'going nowhere'. Not to mention 60% of the characters now are made up in comparison to the comics where they have 10 who are all badasses and no scrubs.

by RealGunner Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:41 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Biggest problem is the actual plot never advances. It's just the group trying to survive from place to place every season. It could go on for infinite seasons if all they did was survive every season. Just put them in a new location every season and have them survive until everyone's eventually dead. However would people actually be happy with that? I mean if TWD came out and said that's what they intended when they wrote the show, then fair enough. However I don't think TWD is meant to be one of those survival shows that lasts forever.

Think about it logically. If there is a zombie apocalypse. You won't be going around finding a cure because you are not a super hero. Neither are those guys in the Show. They are portraying to be normal people trying to survive.

The best way for them to survive is to keep finding places like the farm or the prison and making it as safe as possible. Why would you move from a place that has fences, farm for natural food, animals, guns to keep safe and a community to go out in the open trying to find a cure?

Despite being zombies in the show, the show is not about them. It's about morality in a post apocalypse world. How are the walkers any different to people like the governor? Is there any humanity left in people in a world that is dominated by the walkers? The show constantly develops that theme.

Also the cure doesn't exist. Remember the first season? they went to that Research centre and that guy basically said there is no cure. However don't worry about story not progressing. It is progressing but TV Show will take a massive detour around it.

I really can't predict how it will end. But the comic is getting darker and darker with every issue. Personally think it will end bitter sweet.

McAgger wrote:

I think they started off really really well. The first 2 seasons was really goat. I mean I like d all the characters. There was an actual fear of them possibly losing their lives at any moment. It's been downhill ever since.

Disagree about going downhill IMO. The show just changed it's genre from action to drama.
Also there isn't an actual fear of them losing their lives any moment because they have all evolved. Think about it. First 2 seasons they were all new to the walkers. They didn't know you have to hit the brain area. They didn't know you come back alive even if dying naturally. They had no practise or anything so they were in fear. Now they all know how to kill them and all are pretty much veterans. It's like how you will start a FPS game and how you become in 2 years. Just my 2 cents.

by gb Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:47 pm

This show is just awesome! It's a realistic account of those who have gone through extreme hardship through a process of trial and error with a zombie apocalypse back-drop. It's interesting to see how people(us) would and have reacted in similar circumstances minus the zombies. It's not a zombie show but rather a documentary of the lives of those faced with tragedy with a zombie apocalypse background :bow:

by Onyx Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:57 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Biggest problem is the actual plot never advances. It's just the group trying to survive from place to place every season. It could go on for infinite seasons if all they did was survive every season. Just put them in a new location every season and have them survive until everyone's eventually dead. However would people actually be happy with that? I mean if TWD came out and said that's what they intended when they wrote the show, then fair enough. However I don't think TWD is meant to be one of those survival shows that lasts forever.

Think about it logically. If there is a zombie apocalypse. You won't be going around finding a cure because you are not a super hero. Neither are those guys in the Show. They are portraying to be normal people trying to survive.

The best way for them to survive is to keep finding places like the farm or the prison and making it as safe as possible. Why would you move from a place that has fences, farm for natural food, animals, guns to keep safe and a community to go out in the open trying to find a cure?

Despite being zombies in the show, the show is not about them. It's about morality in a post apocalypse world. How are the walkers any different to people like the governor? Is there any humanity left in people in a world that is dominated by the walkers? The show constantly develops that theme.

Also the cure doesn't exist. Remember the first season? they went to that Research centre and that guy basically said there is no cure. However don't worry about story not progressing. It is progressing but TV Show will take a massive detour around it.

I really can't predict how it will end. But the comic is getting darker and darker with every issue. Personally think it will end bitter sweet.

Main thing is it's a TV show that should last 7 seasons max, so there's nothing wrong with it being unrealistic with a superhero who finds a cure.

If it's meant to be one of those shows that lasts forever, then fair enough I don't mind, but to me that's not what twd is meant to be.

by Motogp69 Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:45 pm

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by LeVersacci Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:26 pm

Great episode. The whole Rick scene was goat imo.

Felt like playing with Joel in TLOU against humans Laughing

That chick in Abrahams (think his name is) gang .. wow ffs :wub:

by barca 2011 Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:15 pm

LeVersacci wrote:Great episode. The whole Rick scene was goat imo.

Felt like playing with Joel in TLOU against humans

That chick in Abrahams (think his name is) gang .. wow ffs

For real, where's she been in the apocalypse?!? If I'm Abraham I wouldn't even bother trying to find a cure.

by RED Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:59 pm

LeVersacci wrote:Great episode. The whole Rick scene was goat imo.

Felt like playing with Joel in TLOU against humans

That chick in Abrahams (think his name is) gang .. wow ffs

I thought the exact same thing. A touch of TLOU in that scene where Rick was evading the scavengers, which is not a bad thing.

I liked the episode. I like how Michonne has completely came out of her depressive state and seems like such a bubbly and vibrant woman. I found it endearing how she is trying to bond with Carl.

TWD dumb moments of the week- Rick bursts into the toilet, the guy behind him sits there gasping as though Rick is some sort of alien instead of screaming to alert his crew.
- Dumb strange guy decides to imitate Rambo and shoot all over the place, and in effect, lets loose a stray bullet which fcks up their ride. Nice one dumbass.

The Rick/Carl/Michonne featured episodes are the best so far. I can tell this season is going to shift between this and the Beth/Darryl-Tyrese etc episodes. I wish they would find a way to fit them all in one episode rather than do it periodically to stretch the season.

Also, i agree fellas. That chick is gorgeous.

by El Gunner Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:28 pm

That Espinoza (think that's her last name hmm

) chick

jesus christ, her lovely stomach. Glenn should forget Maggie and tap that...

Episode was good. But we need a bit more action, imo. After the great mid-season finale, we don't want it to stray too much without good action.

Was it just me or did that Eugene dude at first glance look like John Travolta wearing Quentin Tarantino's clothes in Pulp Fiction. scratch

by RealGunner Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:09 pm

Great episode. This is why I love Rick's scenes. They are always good. Along with Michonne they are probably the best two characters(Daryl and Glenn comes after)

It felt like TLOU to me as well. Specially with feint music playing in behind as Rick was trying to hide. What I really liked was that they didn't show Rick as a superman who took on all of them all on his own. The strategy to evade and run was realistic and worked really well.

Michonne's scene was so powerful. That room man where the whole family was dead. That was one of those speechless moments where you just stare blankly. This show can be so dark at times. Great acting when she was trying hard to act as a 'mother/friend' to Carl while hiding her emotions.

Saw a bit more of Abraham. Must say they picked a great actor to play him. That arc was very good too. My guess is that they will follow the rail tracks as well and go into that town. Maybe after finding Maggie's group.

Rick, Michonne and Carl are gone to the same place as Tyrese, girls and Carol. Think the big reunion will happen there. Hopefully they show that town's arc close to the comics because it's just epic(in a gore way).

by RealGunner Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:10 pm

That chick (Christian Serratos)

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by RealGunner Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:11 pm

Not sure if any of you agree but Michonne is hot man. Rick needs to get in there.

by LeVersacci Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:21 pm

RealGunner wrote:That chick (Christian Serratos)

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by LeVersacci Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:23 pm

El Gunner wrote:That Espinoza (think that's her last name ) chick :wub:jesus christ, her lovely stomach. Glenn should forget Maggie and tap that...

Episode was good. But we need a bit more action, imo. After the great mid-season finale, we don't want it to stray too much without good action.

Was it just me or did that Eugene dude at first glance look like John Travolta wearing Quentin Tarantino's clothes in Pulp Fiction.

That's what I thought too lmaoo rofl

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