Re: The Official Winter Transfer Thread

by Kick Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:53 am

He Carried the team last year but there is life after him just like there was life after Zola.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:56 am

Shed wrote:
El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:FFS get over Mata already. Two time player-of-the-season my ass.

Seriously?

Yes.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:57 am

Kick wrote:He Carried the team last year but there is life after him just like there was life after Zola.

And there's evidence to that based on our results now. Unless someone believes our results would have been better with Mata.

by Shed Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:59 am

To not object to his absence from the side now and going forward is one thing. To completely dismiss and even insult everything he's contributed over the last 2 seasons is quite another. Completely tasteless imo.

by Kick Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:00 am

I believe the team would be better with Mata, but the more we change our style, the less effective Mata would be meaning the less important.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:00 am

Shed wrote:To not object to his absence from the side now and going forward is one thing. To completely dismiss and even insult everything he's contributed over the last 2 seasons is quite another. Completely tasteless imo.

I'm the former, not the latter.

by Shed Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:09 am

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:Two time player-of-the-season my ass.

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by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:09 am

BTW, if Mata decides to leave this summer then we're actually in trouble. We will have to buy a replacement. The position once with incredible depth can easily become the position of weakness, since now we just have The Ghost of Yuri Zhirkov and Mata as replacements. Laughing

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:10 am

Shed wrote:
El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:Two time player-of-the-season my ass.

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Lets just say, my post was lost in translation. smoking

by Shed Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:10 am

Seems to be happening quite a bit lately....

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:11 am

by Kick Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:13 am

TBH, bring in a youth player, Piazon would be my choice. Atsu, another.

Willian, Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle, Piazon and Ramires. Plenty of Depth.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:17 am

Kick wrote:TBH, bring in a youth player, Piazon would be my choice. Atsu, another.

Willian, Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle, Piazon and Ramires. Plenty of Depth.

May I respectfully disagree! That may be depth but certainly not quality depth. Ramires is not an attacking winger (and will not be utilized as that in our current system bar an emergency) and Piazon is too inexperienced and not proven. Schurrle is yet to adapt.

by Shed Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:19 am

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:
Kick wrote:TBH, bring in a youth player, Piazon would be my choice. Atsu, another.

Willian, Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle, Piazon and Ramires. Plenty of Depth.

May I respectfully disagree! That may be depth but certainly not quality depth. Ramires is not an attacking winger (and will not be utilized as that in our current system bar an emergency) and Piazon is too inexperienced and not proven. Schurrle is yet to adapt.

Not a concept Kick has yet grasped, despite years of tireless effort on my part Laughing

by Kick Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:48 am

You're right, let's keep Mata and KDB on the bench forever.... :facepalm:

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:51 am

Kick wrote:You're right, let's keep Mata and KDB on the bench forever....

I would gladly keep Mata handy for as long as I live. That may not be an ideal situation for the player though Laughing

by Kick Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:56 am

Exactly. Why stack the team when they're all going to want to leave when they don't play?

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:02 am

Kick wrote:Exactly. Why stack the team when they're all going to want to leave when they don't play?

I don't see your reasoning, though. You're always going to have players sitting on the bench when the supply is surplus as it is at every big club. Not all of them think about leaving when they're left out, however, as the salary at Chelsea is quite good. Those who wish to leave are replaced by others, but not many players leave Chelsea. Just because Mata may want to leave (and there is no hardcore evidence proving that he wants to leave) does not mean we lose confidence at our ability to attract and keep players and start promoting inexperienced youth. If Mata does leave, he'll be replaced by someone competent who may end up benching a starter. That's what motivates players, because they know at a big club it's not easy to start.

by Kick Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:08 am

Hence why I want to see Piazon, he is young and has the ability to eventually replace them, why would we ruin another youth players chance by selling Mata and buying someone else?

Schurrle is quality too, we could have 4 quality AM's 1 up and coming AM and Ramires as emergency. I don't see anything wrong with that.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:16 am

Kick wrote:Hence why I want to see Piazon, he is young and has the ability to eventually replace them, why would we ruin another youth players chance by selling Mata and buying someone else?

Schurrle is quality too, we could have 4 quality AM's 1 up and coming AM and Ramires as emergency. I don't see anything wrong with that.

We aren't ruining Piazon. He's already a legend at his respective club. If ultimately we don't need him, he will be sold for a good profit like De Bruyne.

One quality AM for 3 WC AM's is not enough for the season. Need at least 2 proven, quality AM's (winger+central attacker perhaps).