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Post by Sri Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:24 am

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@srigooner

I knew a post like this would come. That's why I said "almost by himself". It was an expression with the purpose to point out that Lewa can be the main man in attack and you can rely on him in important moments.


Nope, Lewa has also had enough to help him along his way. As did 'main man RvP' in his last season with us - his goals made most people forget all the assists Theo and Alex Song pumped in that season. That's the thing with strikers, because what matters in the end is the goals being scored.

Anyway, Arsenal's philosophy has always been on the collective effort and fighting as a team. So there is no need for one person to do any carrying, even though at a highly macroscopic level, it looks like one person is doing all the carrying - be it Ramsey earlier or supposedly Alexis in the first part of last season. It's almost a shame that the people who don't get their names on the scoring sheets are reduced to much overlooked footnotes in the sport.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:25 am

Besides Benzema's CL record is better than any current player not called Messi/Ronaldo, people are entitled to their opinions but i really struggle to understand why so many are loath to rate him.

Really does seem like he needs to move to england for him to be respected lol.
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:25 am

RealGunner wrote:Neither cavani nor Lewa are better than Benzema. Benzema is a tier 1 striker on the same block as Suarez and Aguero. Cavani, lewa, Rooney etc are tier 2.

I don't know when was the last time you saw Benzema play vlad but he has been one of Madrid's most important player for years. He has shown time and time again to be a big game player. See his performances against Barcelona in El Clasico for example.

It's not even to do with being a big game player or not. Benzema will improve us considerably. He is everything we need in attack which is supported by the likes of Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey and Cazorla.

For the record, I highly doubt we will sign him and the rumours are all bullshit as they usually are. But to have him will be one heck of a deal.


I saw many games with Benzema involved. Your opinion is yours, mine is mine, they happen to be different. Good luck on signing Benzema!
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Post by Sri Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:27 am

RealGunner wrote:Neither cavani nor Lewa are better than Benzema. Benzema is a tier 1 striker on the same block as Suarez and Aguero. Cavani, lewa, Rooney etc are tier 2.

I don't know when was the last time you saw Benzema play vlad but he has been one of Madrid's most important player for years. He has shown time and time again to be a big game player. See his performances against Barcelona in El Clasico for example.


This feeds into my point, in a way. This is the Real Madrid with a big name like Cronaldo hogging a big share of the limelight - it is but to be expected, that others are perceived by the vast populace as not being in the same top tier.

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Post by Sri Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:29 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Really does seem like he needs to move to england for him to be respected lol.


Think Mesut may not completely agree with that assessment (yet). Nor might Angel di Maria hmm

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Post by MJ Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:35 am

Di Marzio says Szczesny to Roma is almost done. €500,000 loan fee with a €5million option to buy.

Why for peanuts tho? scratch scratch

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/roma-trattativa-in-dirittura-per-szczesny-i-dettagli-delloperazione/
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:38 am

I can't speak for everyone but I suppose him playing second fiddle to Ronaldo (and even Bale, to an extent) might lessen people's opinion of him as a top level striker. His goal output recently hasn't been anything special (if you compared it to Aguero's, for example), though obviously there are circumstances surrounding that.

I think it's clear, though, that were he to come here he wouldn't have to worry about enabling another player in the same way he enables Ronaldo, which could benefit him a lot, in the same Alexis was able to benefit from having more freedom to play as he likes, as he does for Chile.


That €5 million is a pathetic amount, really. Should be double that, at least.

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Post by CBarca Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:51 am

Benzema would be an incredible signing for you guys. I would throw a lot of money at Madrid for him. He is a considerable upgrade on what you have now and he's 27 yet. I agree with RG, he is a tier 1 striker and with you guys lacking one since RVP, he would be a steal at any price (well, not ANY, but you know what I mean). Also fits Arsenal's style of play like a glove, has played with Ozil before, and is French, so him and Arsene and Giroud can have sleepovers and pillow fights (gtfo rihanna).

Not to mention he can be DM cover if Cazorla gets injured
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Post by El Gunner Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:43 am

For the past 6 years I've had no dream that has Benzema in it hmm
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Post by MJ Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:45 am

El Gunner wrote:For the past 6 years I've had no dream that has Benzema in it hmm


Rihanna counts hmm
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:45 am

El Gunner wrote:For the past 6 years I've had no dream that has Benzema in it hmm


You would have Llorente lead our attack m12/2+2
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Post by El Gunner Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:56 am

MJ wrote:
El Gunner wrote:For the past 6 years I've had no dream that has Benzema in it hmm


Rihanna counts hmm
Only celebrity that pops up in my dreams is that beauty to your left.

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El Gunner wrote:For the past 6 years I've had no dream that has Benzema in it hmm


You would have Llorente lead our attack m12/2+2
I would not m5*5/3 round off to the nearest whole number hmm
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Post by El Gunner Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:59 am

BODMAS does not apply
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:02 am

Taken from the General Section:

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Google Translate: Arsenal ready to pay Samper's 12 million clause. It would be their sixth "plundering" of La Masia.

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Post by MJ Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:33 am

Barca would be absolutely furious with that lol.
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Post by VendettaRed07 Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:45 am

Please Lord let us sign Benzema

We are going to need him and a midfielder. With the team United are putting together, if we don't we will finish below them again.

If we do I think the sky is the limit
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Post by CBarca Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:47 am

lmao you're not getting Samper gtfo

changed my mind benzema is an awful signing and remains my opinion until wenger gets his dirty eyes off of Samper.
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:52 am

Maybe you should stop putting ridiculously low release clauses on your better youngsters :coffee:

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Post by CBarca Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:03 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:Maybe you should stop putting ridiculously low release clauses on your better youngsters :coffee:


You don't want the new fran merida anyway hmm
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Post by GenBlizkin Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:27 pm

what happened to Merida, went Atletico , then i haven't seen him since.
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Post by MJ Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:51 pm

Some of you have zero faith that we won't just accidentally, blindly stumble upon the answer.

Like, come on. Don't you know Jon Toral and Chuba Akpom are this year's Coquelin?? Sad
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Post by Sri Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:40 pm

They play DM?

Yes to DMzema - however, it still is all BS rumours.

Szcz - after all my time arguing for keeping him, it's a bit disappointing to see him go - assuming that is also not BS. 5m€ is ridiculous though - even if it has a buy-back clause as well as a 90% sell on clause.

:/

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:06 am

srigooner wrote:
GoonerJay29 wrote:
Oh, and Bellerin's signed a new deal:

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150717/bellerin-signs-new-long-term-contract


Where is Hans? Proud

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:19 am

dostoevsky wrote:Don't see the need for another DM if you buy Benzema.

Spoiler:

Hapless_Hans wrote:Benzema would be both birds with one stone :bow:

I'm faster than you in stating the obvious :coffee:

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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:04 am

Arsenal are getting more for Flamini (£4M) than Manchester United got for RVP (£3.84M) :bow:

Its a miracle we got anything for Flamini. rofl
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