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Post by REWB Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:18 pm

lol its because his name is "james mcCarthy" and not "james Cathinho" is why people think he is an average player. personally I think he might be a good edition.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:21 pm

I think the name "James McCarthy" is actually a good one lol. Sounds better than something like Milner or Barry
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Post by REWB Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:38 pm

nahh, if you are a British midfielder and your name is not gerrard, lampard, wilshere or bale you are automatically a bad player in most peoples eyes, especially for foreign none english fans. Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:44 pm

In any case. Apparently Fellaini's buy out clause is 22m.

Would you guys splash the cash on him

OR

would you rather get. McCarthy for 10m + a striker for 12m.

Not easy as it sounds, think about it
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Post by REWB Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:57 pm

for me if we are getting mcCarthy he needs to be in an addition to a DM(capoue) and a striker. mcCarthy and a striker is not good enough imo we need a proper dm.

in addition, i don't want fellaini yet, he is a good player but he is not a dm and i want a dm first and foremost. fellaini is the type of player that would do well alongside a dm, but we haven't got one.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:58 pm

It is because Fellaini won't go backwards smoking
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:43 pm

Wenger traveled to Netherlands this morning.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:56 pm

RealGunner wrote:Wenger traveled to Netherlands this morning.


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Post by RealGunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:02 pm

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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:03 pm

The Official Arsenal Winter Transfers/Rumours Thread BAHY6NHCIAAFYX4
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:22 pm

lmfao
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Post by SamuelJayC Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:32 pm

BILD: Arsenal want to sign Mainz striker Adam Szalai. Dortmund also interested. - http://bit.ly/11d8Tbw

Ádám Szalai is 25, Hungarian (14 caps) & has 11 goals in 20 games this season for Mainz. Hattrick v Hoffenheim in Oct > http://t.co/QXxXL4Nr

Looks very similar to Giroud (which was the reason AW didn't sign Ba) & price tag is £16m-odd. Highly doubt we'll be signing him.
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:50 pm

We might as well bring back Chamakh, Bendtner and Park.

So *bleep* sad, useless board and dictator, even a 12 year old can point out Arsenal problems and players that can fix it.
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Post by CBarca Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:18 pm

I've watched McCarthy a couple times this season and have been very impressed when I have seen him. He would be a good signing for most teams, but I'm not sure he is what Arsenal needs.
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Post by SUPERCARTTS Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:26 pm

James McCarthy's name on the team sheet isn't exactly going to strike fear into our opponents is it?! With the kind of money we've got in the bank - I think the fans deserve a better 'name'. One could argues nor is the signing of Yann M'Vila going to make teams frightened. I know who I'd rather and a player in the mould of M'Vila is who we need. McCarthy is industrious like Ramsey - maybe slightly tidier - but, I wouldn't refer to him signing as 'added steel' we so crave right now!

*waits for someone to mention M'Vila's temperament*
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:35 pm

SUPERCARTTS wrote:James McCarthy's name on the team sheet isn't exactly going to strike fear into our opponents is it?! With the kind of money we've got in the bank - I think the fans deserve a better 'name'. One could argues nor is the signing of Yann M'Vila going to make teams frightened. I know who I'd rather and a player in the mould of M'Vila is who we need. McCarthy is industrious like Ramsey - maybe slightly tidier - but, I wouldn't refer to him signing as 'added steel' we so crave right now!

*waits for someone to mention M'Vila's temperament*

Wenger is saving the money for next transfer window when, Top Top Top player will be available.

Wenger wants to make the most amount of money at Arsenal, and no player will ever make more than him, that would be insulting to him. He would rather pay 3 useless players 200k a week then pay a top player over 100k.
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Post by SUPERCARTTS Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:04 am

Raptorgunner wrote:
SUPERCARTTS wrote:James McCarthy's name on the team sheet isn't exactly going to strike fear into our opponents is it?! With the kind of money we've got in the bank - I think the fans deserve a better 'name'. One could argues nor is the signing of Yann M'Vila going to make teams frightened. I know who I'd rather and a player in the mould of M'Vila is who we need. McCarthy is industrious like Ramsey - maybe slightly tidier - but, I wouldn't refer to him signing as 'added steel' we so crave right now!

*waits for someone to mention M'Vila's temperament*

Wenger is saving the money for next transfer window when, Top Top Top player will be available.

Wenger wants to make the most amount of money at Arsenal, and no player will ever make more than him, that would be insulting to him. He would rather pay 3 useless players 200k a week then pay a top player over 100k.

You know what bro, you're actually right. Wenger is pissing on the loyal fans from a considerable height! When you actually put it into perspective, Wenger has in fact received a pay rise each time - even though we haven't even win a game of connect 4 since 2005.

Now, if these McCarthy rumours are true, he's actually going to buy a player who looks the part in an annually relegated threatened team to bolster an underachieving top 3 team? Riiiight...Wenger...I see what you did there (if the rumours are in fact true, of course)
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Post by Raptorgunner Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:15 am

EXCLUSIVE: £25m Theo deal! Arsenal confident of ending Walcott saga with five-year mega contract

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2259227/Theo-Walcott-sign-25m-Arsenal-contract.html#ixzz2HRcd5snH

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Post by Raptorgunner Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:57 am

If Wenger is smart, he would buy Michu, not that we need him Laughing so he stops scoring against us. rofl

Without Michu we have a good chance. :bow:
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Post by VendettaRed07 Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:08 am

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000074577&story_title=Kenya-Arsenal-join-race-to-sign-Wanyama

Don't know how reliable this is. But Wanyama for 10m?... That would be perfect. Exact type of steel we need in the midfield.
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Post by Twoism Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:08 am

VendettaRed07 wrote:http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000074577&story_title=Kenya-Arsenal-join-race-to-sign-Wanyama

Don't know how reliable this is. But Wanyama for 10m?... That would be perfect. Exact type of steel we need in the midfield.

Love him but Celtic is in CL so can't'imagine they willing to sell. Plus its source is goal.com so nope, never gonna happen this winter.
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Post by Wilson37 Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:26 am

McCarthy is a good player.. and we have enough central midfielders.. we actually need a specialist dm or physical b2b.. so i dont want us to sign him.. and 10 million is too high..
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Post by SamuelJayC Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:49 am

River Plate president is in Italy to finalize a transfer for Ricky Alvarez - another who we can remove from the 'possibly joining Arsenal' list.

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Post by Jay29 Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:08 am

SUPERCARTTS wrote:James McCarthy's name on the team sheet isn't exactly going to strike fear into our opponents is it?! With the kind of money we've got in the bank - I think the fans deserve a better 'name'. One could argues nor is the signing of Yann M'Vila going to make teams frightened. I know who I'd rather and a player in the mould of M'Vila is who we need. McCarthy is industrious like Ramsey - maybe slightly tidier - but, I wouldn't refer to him signing as 'added steel' we so crave right now!

*waits for someone to mention M'Vila's temperament*

I don't disagree about McCarthy not being the sort of player we need at this moment in time, but is it really important to get a big name? Why do we deserve a big name, as fans? For moaning a lot for the last few years?

What we fans deserve to have is good, committed players. We could quite easily sign a big name only for the big name to be disappointing and not work hard enough, like Arshavin. A few years after his signing and he quite clearly has a love-hate relationship with the fans.

Contrast that with Benayoun, who many thought was a very underwhelming addition, but by the end of his spell at Arsenal he was one of the more popular and appreciated players, because he showed commitment and quality.

Ultimately, I feel it's irrelevant if the guy we sign strikes fear into opponents or gets the fans excited. We just need good players willing to fight for the cause. The fans would be quality won over if any new signing had those qualities.

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Post by SUPERCARTTS Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:01 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:
SUPERCARTTS wrote:James McCarthy's name on the team sheet isn't exactly going to strike fear into our opponents is it?! With the kind of money we've got in the bank - I think the fans deserve a better 'name'. One could argues nor is the signing of Yann M'Vila going to make teams frightened. I know who I'd rather and a player in the mould of M'Vila is who we need. McCarthy is industrious like Ramsey - maybe slightly tidier - but, I wouldn't refer to him signing as 'added steel' we so crave right now!

*waits for someone to mention M'Vila's temperament*

I don't disagree about McCarthy not being the sort of player we need at this moment in time, but is it really important to get a big name? Why do we deserve a big name, as fans? For moaning a lot for the last few years?

What we fans deserve to have is good, committed players. We could quite easily sign a big name only for the big name to be disappointing and not work hard enough, like Arshavin. A few years after his signing and he quite clearly has a love-hate relationship with the fans.

Contrast that with Benayoun, who many thought was a very underwhelming addition, but by the end of his spell at Arsenal he was one of the more popular and appreciated players, because he showed commitment and quality.

Ultimately, I feel it's irrelevant if the guy we sign strikes fear into opponents or gets the fans excited. We just need good players willing to fight for the cause. The fans would be quality won over if any new signing had those qualities.

I have to disagree with most of what you said besides the Benayoun stuff.

That's actually something Wenger wound say, you know. Our ethos over the last 5 years has actually been an exact mirror of your post. Do you think the top clubs in the world have a compiled list of "commited" potentials that they look to sign? What player, during a sit down with another manager, would turn round and say 'I cant promise you commitment - but I'll be happy to accept your offer of £80k a week'.

Commitment can only be gauged by the effort given over a fair period of time - once the 'settling in' period has passed. To use Arshavin as an example of a big name failing is weak! Ramsey is a commited player who isnt exactly putting 'bums in seats' (playing out of position isnt helping, of course) We could've had Villa or Arshavin at one point; a poll would've shown, conclusively, who the fans would've rather 99.9% of the time - not to mention, one of the aforementioned went public about Arsenal, while the other moaned about taxation,

Right now, fans aren't interested in 'Long term projects and players with potential'. That dead horse has suffered years of beating. Bizarrely, if City, Chelsea or Utd were link/signed McCarthy, we wouldn't hear a peep from them, as they're successful in their own right and in recent times. The fact we've been selling our best players and replacing them isn't assisting fans in comprehending Arsenal being linked to players like McCarthy.

Do you see where I'm coming from?
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