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Post by fatman123 Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:21 am

I agree with much of what was written in that article, if your CBs are struggling the last thing you want to is remove some of the protection they're receiving from the midfield, especially when one of the CMs you leave there has already been booked.

Although i dont think AVB underestimated City his tactics do give that impression, theres no team in the PL with the quality to attack City like that at the Ethihad

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Post by VendettaRed07 Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:38 am

Didn't city thrash united 6-1 even with goat manager fergie? City can do this to anyone every now and then
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:01 pm

VendettaRed07 wrote:Didn't city thrash united 6-1 even with goat manager fergie? City can do this to anyone every now and then
yup, that's probably what AVB should tell Levy to justify that putrid performance and the humiliation
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:42 pm

Its never good to see a young up and coming Manager go through what he did. Maybe he will improve his tactics from here on. Spurs would be stupid to let him go at this point really. He is trying to change the entire culture/approach of the club. That is not an easy job, especially given the current environment of the Premier league.
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Post by Helmer Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:51 pm

Abrahmovic to offer 30m for AVB to get sacked :coffee:

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Post by Raptorgunner Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:52 pm

At AVB'S Lodge this morning..
Mrs AVB : "wake up honey, its 7!"
AVB : "huh! Wtf! They scored again??"
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Post by djfawnz Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:06 pm

u saw that at yahoo.co.uk :p
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Post by Raptorgunner Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:37 pm

djfawnz wrote:u saw that at yahoo.co.uk :p
No, it was on twitter.
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:10 pm

Arsenalfaithfull wrote:Its never good to see a young up and coming Manager go through what he did. Maybe he will improve his tactics from here on. Spurs would be stupid to let him go at this point really. He is trying to change the entire culture/approach of the club. That is not an easy job, especially given the current  environment of the Premier league.
What exactly is he trying to change?
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:21 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:
Arsenalfaithfull wrote:Its never good to see a young up and coming Manager go through what he did. Maybe he will improve his tactics from here on. Spurs would be stupid to let him go at this point really. He is trying to change the entire culture/approach of the club. That is not an easy job, especially given the current  environment of the Premier league.
What exactly is he trying to change?
He wants to play a high-line and a passing game, ultra La Liga style. And he's stubborn and won't change when things don't work. The Chelsea players bailed on him after Arsenal brutally exposed the stupid system Laughing. Tottenham players would too but they aren't big like JT or Frank. And on top of that, AVB doesn't take the youth system seriously, because they don't produce tiki-taka players here. Honestly, AVB should just fudge off to La Liga.

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:33 pm

And what does he want to accomplish by doing that? Laughing

You can play a high-line and passing game in the EPL as well but there has to be a balanced approach.. a touch of pragmatism. BR himself realized this halfway point last season and changed the way we approach games.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:48 pm

To be fair, Tottenham weren't that bad in first half. At some point they in the first half the possession stats were something like 67-33 for Tottenham and they were looking good otherwise than in terms of creating chances. Obviously they collapsed after that, but one shouldn't read too much into this game, I'd mark them down as favorites against United in the next round.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:53 pm

Anyone saw Gary Neville totally question him on MNF ? Proud

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Post by VendettaRed07 Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:17 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
VendettaRed07 wrote:Didn't city thrash united 6-1 even with goat manager fergie? City can do this to anyone every now and then
yup, that's probably what AVB should tell Levy to justify that putrid performance and the humiliation
not justifying it, lm just saying just because they lost 6-0 doesn't mean he is entirely the problem therefore deserves to be sacked for it.
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Post by farfan Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:46 pm

biggest fraud in football .

guy needs to work as an assistant for few years and learn the ropes from actual managers .
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Post by 1991 Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:02 pm

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:11 pm

The question is, if they sack AVB, who do they even bring in to replace the man?
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Post by Motogp69 Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:48 am

Honestly, I think one of the problems is that while we bought a lot of quality this Summer, none of that "quality" has been able to provide the toughness or leadership needed for games like the one against City.

Dawson is a good captain, but he is a bottom table defender who has no place in our starting XI much like Scott Parker last season.

This is where I have an issue with some of our transfers which destabilized certain positions: Benny, Huddlestone, Caulker and Dempsey.

The lack of an attacking LB like Benny and AVB's rigid tactics have made it quite easy to game plan for us. Huddlestone and Caulker have both shown a lot promise this season. I was never a fan of Huddlestone, but his set piece ability might of helped unlock a few goals for us this season. Caulker should of been held onto in place of Dawson.

In terms of Dempsey, while he's on shit form right now, and I admittedly don't think he's talented enough for this squad, we needed a player like Dempsey yesterday who would've at least brought an edge and desire to a squad utterly devoid of it when their backs were up against it.

Oh well, I could go on for days regarding the issues we have right now, but I'm hoping as some of you have said it was just a one off game. I guess we'll see the true nature of our squad against United.
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Post by Uncanny Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:18 am

Is it man managent? He started to drop fanbase when at Chelsea around this time. I hope his players stick by him and actually play for him, results have been shitty
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:42 pm

Spurs' hierarchy seriously considering the sacking of AVB according to the Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/26/andre-villas-boas-tottenham-manager?CMP=twt_gu

One bad result against United and he's probably gone.
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Post by chad4401 Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:46 pm

So if they do sack him, which la liga manager would get poached hmm


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Post by RealGunner Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:46 pm

Who is available?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:48 pm

If they sack him they are idiots.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:49 pm

If I was Spurs I would hope to see sacked Andre Villas Boas
He is a bluff  ... last year Tottenham was " ball to Bale" , this year we've seenthe limits without the Welsh ... and
although Bale ( POTY ) they did not qualify in CL preceded by the worst Arsenal of Wenger

.....but who in his place?
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Post by Jay29 Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:19 pm

It's too soon for Spurs to change managers, in my opinion. While they have their problems, they are a team in transition and getting into the top four this season was always going to be difficult, even if they did have a settled squad. Yet, there are still 26 games left and as Arsenal have proven, it's very much possible to recover from a poor first half of the season and finish in the top four.

Patience can go a long way. Give the manager a chance to sort things out, and give the new players a chance to settle and then see whether Villas-Boas is suitable or not.

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:24 am

There's no point in sacking AVB now. Wait till the results at the end of the season.

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