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Post by Art Morte Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:06 pm

So, Newcastle have scored at least twice in their last five games (four PL, one League Cup). So playing them at St James's should be tricky.

I don't know what's the latest on our injured players Johnson, Coutinho, Cissokho... Luckily we seem to have come off the int break in full fitness.

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Toure - Skrtel - Agger
Ibe - Henderson - Gerrard - Enrique
Moses
Sturridge - Suarez
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Post by Nishankly Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:57 pm

Why Ibe?
He has no experience as a winger in the PL forget RWB Razz

Lucas will make his comeback. Though i was satisfied with Hendo last game week.

If Hendo does play RWB, He will be targeted as usual. That wing has been a problem with Sterling and Hendo, Hopefully Glen can make that side more solid.

"Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini is sidelined by a muscle injury, while winger Jonas Gutierrez is ruled out because of personal reasons". They'll go with Mbiwa-Williamson CB partnership. This will be a difficult match.


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Post by Art Morte Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:11 pm

Sterling was played as wing-back in our last game, but I tend to think Ibe is better defensively, so following that logic, if Rodgers is willing to try out Raheem there, then why not Ibe, too. Besides the lad deserves some game time already.
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Post by McAgger Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:10 am

Alright fellas, good news is that Allen, Johnson, and Cissokho are all fit for Newcastle. Coutinho is the only that's going to be waiting a bit longer.

Here's what I hope BR goes with

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Toure - Agger - Sakho
Johnson - Gerrard - Lucas - Enrique
Henderson
Suarez -- Sturrdige

Bench: Jones, Allen, Cissokho, Skrtel, Sterling, Aspas, Moses
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:50 am

Congrats on the win guys.
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Post by Art Morte Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:13 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Congrats on the win guys.
Cheers, buddy. I hope you get rid of Pardew soon, his tactics were hopeless against us. I mean, to lose 0 - 6 at home like that, surely his time's up.
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Post by McAgger Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:34 am

Art Morte wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Congrats on the win guys.
Cheers, buddy. I hope you get rid of Pardew soon, his tactics were hopeless against us. I mean, to lose 0 - 6 at home like that, surely his time's up.
I know mate, that's 2 games running that he's losing 6-0 at home to us. Pardiola is hopeless and sadly the 8 year contract still has another 6.5 years. Mole stay strong.

But in all seriousness I'm a bit worried about Remy and Ben Arfa. Hatem against Enrique is going to be a little scary specially now that Jose is a wing back and leaves even more space behind, hoping for Sakho to tackle Ben Arfa hard at the start of the game to scare him a bit from going on his mazy runs. Remy on the other can score long ranged shots like they are tap ins and we love to concede long shots all day, glad it's Simon and not Pepe in goal.

Otherwise without Coloccini for them, I like our chances in attack.
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Post by Red Alert Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:58 am

Can see an upset happening. Something always goes wrong when it starts to look positive... Embarassed 
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Post by mr-r34 Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:07 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Congrats on the win guys.
That GL jynx.
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Post by Nishankly Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:30 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Congrats on the win guys.
You won't get away with this jinx.
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Post by Helmer Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:28 pm

Prdew in an interview wrote:"It was one of my worst days as Newcastle boss, for sure. It's happened to bigger and better managers than me though - Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, they've all had those days, too," said Pardew.

"If there isn't an extra bit of fire in the bellies of some of our players this weekend, then there'll be something wrong.

"There'll be quite a few players playing who played on that day, and I'd be disappointed if they don't respond. That's what you like to see.

"I certainly want to get a result more than in most games that we play."
The best way to avenge will be liverpool-castle ending like 1-0 OR 2-1 OR 3-2 :coffee:

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Post by Helmer Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:18 pm

Mignolet
Toure - Skrtel - Sakho
Hendo - Gerrard - Lucas - Enrique
Moses
Suarez -- Sturrdige
we will see this most likely.
Sub:Jones, Allen, Johnson, Sterling, Aspas, Aly, Agger
Hendo as RWB only if Johnson is not fit enough to play the hole 90 min. I think we can bring Johnson for last 30 min. And I think if we do score like 2 or 3 goals in first half, we may see Allen coming in for Moses and Hendo going central if we start loosing control of the match

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:36 pm

Nishank wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Congrats on the win guys.
You won't get away with this jinx.
No jinx, i was being genuine we have no chance with this clueless nut job in charge.

Yes its true that we have individuals which can win the game but that isn't going to matter.

I just hope we don't lose to Sunderland the following week Laughing
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Post by Helmer Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:39 pm

Mate, going by the normal history...liverpool will let you win and you guys will really lose against sunderland next week. Then I will scream n shout here that, we lost to a side which lost against s'land Razz

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Post by El Jefe Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:32 pm

Mignolet
Toure - Agger - Sakho
Johnson - Henderson - Allen - Cissokho
Gerrard
Suarez - Sturridge

If everyone is fit I'd like to see us play that. Think Allen and Henderson would be a good partnership, good tactically, mobile, good in possession. Allow Gerrard push further forward without giving him too much running to do as he has Sturridge and Suarez in front who both work the channels well.
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Post by Helmer Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:45 pm

i will dare to rest Stivie for this match and keep him fresh for WBA and Arsenal fixture...I knw we are scared not to have him in the team but i think it is time that we should rest him regularly

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Post by Art Morte Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:02 pm

If we're going to rest Gerrard this wouldn't be a bad game to do that, but I don't think we are.
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Post by McAgger Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:55 pm

@El Jefe, there is no way BR making that many changes to the line up with 3 players barely coming back from injuries. I can only see Glen coming straight back into the line up from the trio that returned from injuries.

As for Gerrard being rested, while it may be a good idea, I'm not really sure BR will consider it. Both of England's matches were in England so Stevie didn't travel much in the last week. He's also had 5 days to recover from the last match, so I think it would be a huge gamble to rest him. We shouldn't take this Newcastle side lightly.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:06 pm

YangaMbiwa-GOATlliamson CB partnership's first ever outing will be tomorrow. Watch them bond like Nesta and Cannavaro :facepalm:

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:59 pm

I actually have some positive feelings towards that partnership on paper.

Mbiwa is by far our fastest CB and Williamson for all his deficiencies is our best leader by far and unlike Taylor is aware of his weaknesses and won't run around like a raving lunatic leaving gaping holes to exploit.

But i don't think it matters who plays at CB..... our fullbacks will be too expansive and our wide forwards won't do much defensive work and the midfield won't track runners very well so all in all the CBs will be very isolated.

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:13 pm

Newcastle gonna win this obviously. They will give their all this time after being whacked 6-0 in our last encounter. Not to mention we bottle up when things are looking positive lol.
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Post by Art Morte Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:27 pm

If we play Lucas & Gerrard, Newcastle are going to have the middle of the park to themselves. We'll cause problems when we get up attacking, but they'll control the game more than us.
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Post by McAgger Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:30 pm

Art Morte wrote:If we play Lucas & Gerrard, Newcastle are going to have the middle of the park to themselves. We'll cause problems when we get up attacking, but they'll control the game more than us.
There is so much wrong with this post
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Post by Art Morte Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:47 pm

McAgger wrote:
Art Morte wrote:If we play Lucas & Gerrard, Newcastle are going to have the middle of the park to themselves. We'll cause problems when we get up attacking, but they'll control the game more than us.
There is so much wrong with this post
Like it's gone in every game so far this season where we've played the Gerrard-Lucas partnership?

The PL is fast paced, Gerrard and Lucas are not. Skill doesn't matter if you can't get on the ball and Cabaye, Anita and Sissoko are going to outwork a Gerrard-Lucas midfield. It's not necessarily bad if our three CBs deliver and we can break on the counter with out attack-heavy set-up, but it poses problems as well.
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Post by McAgger Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:53 pm

I'm not going to go over the same tactical dilemma with the double pivots. Just check the Tactics and Formations thread on why you're wrong in saying we won't be able to control the game because of Gerrard and Lucas.
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