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Post by Harmonica Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:07 pm

Finally concluded after hours of watching goals and browsing through Mundo Deportivo archives, added 4 R's best seasons for Barcelona as comparison. Wide assists rules for everyone.

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Rivaldo's best season was really amazing, that rivals in influence Maradona 89-90 and Messi 11-12, 12-13.

4 players, 4 Ballon d'Or's in Barcelona. Who was the best brazilian?
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:07 am

Ronaldinho was the best brazilian imo. But i didn't know that he only played 29 games out of 38 in Liga. I thought he actually played too much and because of that he was tired for the WC.Razz 
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:44 am

That was not Ronaldinho's best season.

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Post by jibers Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:54 pm

Bénin wrote:Ronaldinho was the best brazilian imo. But i didn't know that he only played 29 games out of 38 in Liga. I thought he actually played too much and because of that he was tired for the WC.Razz 
He was tired for the WC because he started to become lazy and stopped looking after himself.

The saddest thing here is that I feel Maradona only ever reached 80% max of his potential. Had he been on the straight and narrow no footballer would be on his level Sad

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Post by Harmonica Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:27 pm

The Franchise wrote:That was not Ronaldinho's best season.

Yeah 06-07 might be marginally better, but only because he played more.
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Post by RonaldoGreatestEverRM Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:53 pm

06-07? Harmonica what's wrong with you?
2003-2006 was much better than 06-07... jeez
03-05 were his best years
smh that lack of knowledge
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Post by Harmonica Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:13 pm

RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:06-07? Harmonica what's wrong with you?
2003-2006 was much better than 06-07... jeez
03-05 were his best years
smh that lack of knowledge
Umm no, 04-05 he wasn't as prolific as 05-07 and I don't think 03-04 was either. Don't know where you got your knowledge.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:30 pm

Depends, if your talking stats then I dont know.

But on an actual playing level, both years before the WC year he was better. The last 3 months before the WC he actually started to fall apart.
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:33 pm

jibers wrote:
Bénin wrote:Ronaldinho was the best brazilian imo. But i didn't know that he only played 29 games out of 38 in Liga. I thought he actually played too much and because of that he was tired for the WC.Razz 
He was tired for the WC because he started to become lazy and stopped looking after himself.

The saddest thing here is that I feel Maradona only ever reached 80% max of his potential. Had he been on the straight and narrow no footballer would be on his level Sad

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Had he been on the straight and narrow he would have never been the player he was. His personnality is a part of his talent. If he was shy like Messi for instance i'm pretty sure he would have not been the Diego we know.
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Post by RonaldoGreatestEverRM Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:47 am

The Franchise wrote:Depends, if your talking stats then I dont know.

But on an actual playing level, both years before the WC year he was better. The last 3 months before the WC he actually started to fall apart.
Pretty much, only thing better in 06-07 were the raw stats.

Harmonica took a gamble on that statement, 06-07 more drinking rumours appeared as well.

Guess why he won the Ballon D'Or in 2004&2005...
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:06 pm

The Franchise wrote:Depends, if your talking stats then I dont know.

But on an actual playing level, both years before the WC year he was better. The last 3 months before the WC he actually started to fall apart.
Stats wise 04-05 was abysmal, he only finished it strong, which probably helped his Ballon d'Or.

04-05 first 31 rounds he was involved in 3 points out of 69, ended 7/84.

04-05 (9+13)/73 = 29% goals involved, 7/84 = 8% points involved
05-06 (17+16)/80 = 41% goals involved, 16/82 = 20% points involved
06-07 (21+11)/78 = 41% goals involved, 19/76 = 25% points involved


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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:07 pm

RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:Pretty much, only thing better in 06-07 were the raw stats.

Harmonica took a gamble on that statement, 06-07 more drinking rumours appeared as well.

Guess why he won the Ballon D'Or in 2004&2005...
It was a half bait actually. And look who took it, a prize fish.

Knew it Ballon d'Or was your whole knowledge.

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Post by The Franchise Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:31 pm

Harmonica wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Depends, if your talking stats then I dont know.

But on an actual playing level, both years before the WC year he was better. The last 3 months before the WC he actually started to fall apart.
Stats wise 04-05 was abysmal, he only finished it strong, which probably helped his Ballon d'Or.

04-05 first 31 rounds he was involved in 3 points out of 69, ended 7/84.

04-05 (9+13)/73 = 29% goals involved, 7/84 = 8% points involved
05-06 (17+16)/80 = 41% goals involved, 16/82 = 20% points involved
06-07 (21+11)/78 = 41% goals involved, 19/76 = 25% points involved
Ok, but im not talking about stats. As I said, if you was then I dont know the answer.

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Post by RonaldoGreatestEverRM Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:16 pm

Harmonica wrote:
RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:Pretty much, only thing better in 06-07 were the raw stats.

Harmonica took a gamble on that statement, 06-07 more drinking rumours appeared as well.

Guess why he won the Ballon D'Or in 2004&2005...
It was a half bait actually. And look who took it, a prize fish.

Knew it Ballon d'Or was your whole knowledge.

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I get it, you have to stick with your agenda, you're so stat obsessed, you also think Messi's 2011-2012 Season was his best... If you now change your ways of thinking it might hurt your "credibility".
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:02 pm

RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:Pretty much, only thing better in 06-07 were the raw stats.

Harmonica took a gamble on that statement, 06-07 more drinking rumours appeared as well.

Guess why he won the Ballon D'Or in 2004&2005...
It was a half bait actually. And look who took it, a prize fish.

Knew it Ballon d'Or was your whole knowledge.

Laughing
I get it, you have to stick with your agenda, you're so stat obsessed, you also think Messi's 2011-2012 Season was his best... If you now change your ways of thinking it might hurt your "credibility".
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Umm, how exactly would that be an awful opinion? But no Messi has been better every season of the last five, and it shows exactly in the stats. Last season he became the most efficient player ever to walk the football pitch, and only injury stopped him to have a better output. They also show how the rest of Barca team has been worse the last two seasons.
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