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Post by TalkingReckless Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:25 pm

Ozil and Carzola sending defense splitting passes to Theo bounce 

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:30 pm

What i am most curious about, is whether Ozil will become a field general under wenger. Cesc to this day is still the best n10 i have seen since Zidane, playing in that hole. He was everything. true field general. I am very curious to see if Ozil will evolve or if he will persist in the style he is in.
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Post by aleumdance Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:44 pm

I think Ozil will just be a German cesc in Wenger's eyes , he can pass ...cross..( maybe shoot)

only difference is physique, cesc was a Monster in EPL ( sucha shame he is now rubbish In Barcelona)
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Post by aleumdance Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:46 pm

donttreadonred wrote:
aleumdance wrote: if he comes, it means cazorla is stuck permanently in the left Sad

its bitter sweet
Actually... Wenger could play him at RAM, push Walcott up top, drop Giroud, and continue to play Rosicky behind the striker. It won't/shouldn't happen, but it does sound like something that Wenger would do. :coffee:

I can't say Ozil is a bad signing, because a player of his class will improve almost any team. However, I'm not sure he's the most prudent signing for Arsenal in this window. For example, why do they need an attacking midfielder? They already have three players capable of playing the position to good effect (Cazorla, Wilshere, and Rosicky). What they could really use is a LW (to cover GOALdolski), a proper DM (which Cabaye is not), and a CB. Any of the three would immediately help the squad. Buying another CAM only complicates the selection and leaves the same deficiencies.

Sure, Cazorla is the sexy signing that will appease the supporters, but he may not be the signing that they need the most. Moreover, is the upgrade from Cazorla to Ozil really worth the 30mil up-charge? If they were looking to blow 40mil, there are better options at positions of need. If they were willing to spend that much, why didn't they close the signing of Higuain? IMO, this move wreaks of panic-buying.  
 

the DM has been covered mate, we signed Flamini

Wenger likes it free
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:09 pm

aleumdance wrote:I think Ozil will just be a German cesc in Wenger's eyes , he can pass ...cross..( maybe shoot)

only difference is physique, cesc was a Monster in EPL ( sucha shame he is now rubbish In Barcelona)
a german cesc? no, the way they understand football is completely different. Ozil is all about speed, quickness, game in transition, constant movement. Cesc was a master a space like most spanish AMs, understood how to use space in between the lines better than ozil has ever shown. could control the tempo and worry about everyone getting touches while scoring and passing himself. Barca truly ruined him.
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Post by aleumdance Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:16 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
aleumdance wrote:I think Ozil will just be a German cesc in Wenger's eyes , he can pass ...cross..( maybe shoot)

only difference is physique, cesc was a Monster in EPL ( sucha shame he is now rubbish In Barcelona)
a german cesc? no, the way they understand football is completely different. Ozil is all about speed, quickness, game in transition, constant movement. Cesc was a master a space like most spanish AMs, understood how to use space in between the lines better than ozil has ever shown. could control the tempo and worry about everyone getting touches while scoring and passing himself. Barca truly ruined him.
madrid tried buying Cesc after 2007/08 season, not many people remember lol...

if Ozil os speed, quickness.. I would rather leave Cazorla in middle and play Ozil wide ( just like Nasri before he became a Bench),,

now only problem is work rate AGAIN
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Post by Crimson Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:36 pm

Ozil won't lave get a grip people.
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Post by billy_gr Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:30 am

yeah.... it's almost official
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Post by Highburied Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:31 am

@benlyt: Surely not? Marca now reporting #Ozil has turned down #Arsenal & decided to stay at Real Madrid... http://t.co/cu3i6ZKB85

Looooolll....
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:32 am

Ozil is as good as gone. can't blame him at all either.

wengers star signing

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Post by free_cat Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:38 am

Big mistake if Madrid let go Ozil.
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Post by billy_gr Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:39 am

the same as Sun saying Bale's transfer was canceled
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:56 am

MARCA reporting Ozil has refused arsenal and chosen to stay, doubt its true

they also already began the bale/cr and nerman/messi media comparison

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Post by jibers Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:15 am

lol. Ozil is unhappy because he wasn't told.

Florentino :bow:
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:33 am

Ozil to Arsenal yes pls. What a waste of money. Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:59 am

Bale will not play on the right lmao

you need ozil/dimaria on the right to unlock defences we are going to look so clueless if bale ends up playing there

besides you dont pay 91 mill for a guy who will just be a feeder boy to two attackers. Bale will definitely play next to Ronaldo
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Post by jibers Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:09 am

halamadrid2 wrote:Bale will not play on the right lmao

you need ozil/dimaria on the right to unlock defences we are going to look so clueless if bale ends up playing there

besides you dont pay 91 mill for a guy who will just be a feeder boy to two attackers. Bale will definitely play next to Ronaldo
I think he will play on the right. Makes sense. Cut in and shoot.

I would play this

........Casemiro....Illaramendi....Benzema...

...Bale ..........Isco..............Ronaldo...
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:14 am

thats too many DMs :coffee:

besides Isco as a false nine will not work imo. Not many players can pull that off these days
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Post by aleumdance Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:16 am

lol.com said ozil rejected arsenal
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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:17 am

Bale is going to play on the right... i was checking out his seasonal heat map last year and i was surprised to find out that 28% of the time he was on the right. 40% he was central and 32% left.

That's his spot at Madrid. It's pretty clear.
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Post by jibers Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:22 am

halamadrid2 wrote:thats too many DMs :coffee:

besides Isco as a false nine will not work imo. Not many players can pull that off these days
Benzema is a false DM and will make late runs from behind the halfway line :coffee:
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:24 am

Most assists in the last 3 seasons:
1. Ozil-86
2. Messi-80
3. Mata-66
4. Ribery-55
5. Hazard-52

Lmao at Ozil being forced out for Bale (even if its probably his own choice)
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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:26 am

Except that Benz has 2 goals and 2 assists in 3 games with Isco at 3 goals and 1 assists.... they have been our best 2 attacking players so far.

CR7 has 1 goal.

Last year, if CR7 wasn't on top form, we automatically drop points. This year, we are capable of winning games even when he's not at this best. That's a HUGE difference.

With Bale, the CR7 dependence becomes even less.
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Post by jibers Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:33 am

sportsczy wrote:Except that Benz has 2 goals and 2 assists in 3 games with Isco at 3 goals and 1 assists.... they have been our best 2 attacking players so far.  

CR7 has 1 goal.

Last year, if CR7 wasn't on top form, we automatically drop points.  This year, we are capable of winning games even when he's not at this best.  That's a HUGE difference.

With Bale, the CR7 dependence becomes even less.
Have to agree. You can't depend on Benzema at all for anything. Hopefully Benzema is sold and Suarez replaces him. Pipe dream but would be amazing.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:35 am

Reading skills are not going well for you today are they Laughing

Without Isco and Benz to start this season, we don't win the 3 games. We have been relying more on them and less on CR7... and it's working.

But hey, blind hate is blind.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:42 am

nvm


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