Re: Who would you pick as Ballon d'or this season ?

by Onyx Thu May 02, 2013 6:40 pm

free_cat wrote:Why is people saying Schweinsteigger? We were just destroyed by Bayern and I didn't notice Schweinsteigger aside from his defensive work that wasn't better than Javi Martinez.

He was calm and composed whenever he had the ball.

In terms of who'd win it, it'd be Messi since statistically he's the best player and that's what the award is about.

by Kamikaze692 Thu May 02, 2013 10:04 pm

RonalDo'h has had an amazing 2013 thus far. Top scorer in CL too. Plus he has actually performed in all big games bar the semis (still scored). I personally think he should win it if only coz he's had a strong finish to the season

by Milantildeath Thu May 02, 2013 10:24 pm

Lewandowski will win it if Dortmund win the champions league. Ribery or Robben will win it if Bayern win it...... just watch

by VanDeezNuts Thu May 02, 2013 10:51 pm

Milantildeath wrote:Lewandowski will win it if Dortmund win the champions league. Ribery or Robben will win it if Bayern win it...... just watch

thats how it would have been before it merged with FIFA world player of the year, now its just who is the best player regardless of performances.

so messi wil win it hands down.

by FennecFox7 Fri May 03, 2013 12:35 am

Harmonica wrote:
free_cat wrote:
Harmonica wrote:This isn't track&field, this is football, where quality determines your effectiveness. Some may need to run to perform, some not so much. Look at Pedro running like headless chicken two games, and then rest the third one. For what? For nothing.

Pedro isn't a headless chicken and actually he didn't even run much vs. Bayern. Our tactical pressing was terrible.

This isn't track&Field but running helps, you can't score ore defend if you don't move from the midfield circle (exaggeration to make a point). I'm a fan of Messi and I agree he needs to keep some energy reserves for the attack, but a better balance like Guardiola's first years is desirable.
Wasn't talking one or two games. He's scored 5 goals in the league last two seasons. I see him every game running just like a headless chicken, chasing when you shouldn't chase, being where you shouldn't be, running into a corner with the ball just to make a back pass etc. Sanchez actually has quality, and he has the hunger, he just needs confidence to apply it. Haven't seen quality like that from Pedro for god how long.

And again the problem isn't Messi, nor should he be criticized for something like defenders not actually being able to defend, at all.

Um what?

He's too lazy to start pressuring from the back, therefore giving the CB's ample time on the ball.

It lopsides the WHOLE system if messi can't press. that's how bad it is.

by The Franchise Fri May 03, 2013 12:51 am

Yohan Modric wrote:
free_cat wrote:Why is people saying Schweinsteigger? We were just destroyed by Bayern and I didn't notice Schweinsteigger aside from his defensive work that wasn't better than Javi Martinez.

He was calm and composed whenever he had the ball.

Pass completion was at 70%....thats rubbish.

by Swanhends Fri May 03, 2013 12:58 am

Pass completion isn't the end-all be-all though, and he also had 6/6 tackles and 4 interceptions (In 67 minutes)

by The Franchise Fri May 03, 2013 12:59 am

Didnt say it was, just disagreed with the notion he was "always calm and composed on the ball"

by DeletedUser#1 Fri May 03, 2013 1:00 am

That pass completion rate is absolute crap.

Xavi had 100% pass completion vs. PSG , yet he was dominated until Messi came on and bailed Barca out.

again, last night Xavi had a much higher pass completion rate than both Schwieni and Martinez (70% , 68%) ....don't make me laugh saying Xavi had a better game Laughing

by The Franchise Fri May 03, 2013 1:02 am

Again, what read im saying..dont get ahead of yourself.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 03, 2013 1:06 am

Harry Redknapp wrote:That pass completion rate is absolute crap.

You once proclaimed it as the be all and end all and claimed Joe Allen was the new god because of it Sad

What happened to you Sep, you changed man Sad

by RedOranje Fri May 03, 2013 1:21 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Harry Redknapp wrote:That pass completion rate is absolute crap.

You once proclaimed it as the be all and end all and claimed Joe Allen was the new god because of it

What happened to you Sep, you changed man

Pot meet kettle.

by The Sanchez Fri May 03, 2013 2:22 am

Zealous wrote:Should be a Bayern player after their amazing season.

Hopefully Cris will be ahead of Messi this year since he's been better.

Your actually serious right? No way in hell has CR7 been better than Messi Laughing

OT: Don't know what Schiewi has done to get a Top 3 spot. In honesty there really hasnt been a stand out from anyone. Muller, Ribery, Lewadon, GOATze, Messi will probably make the top 5.

by Swanhends Fri May 03, 2013 2:38 am

Seeing as how Messi won it in 2010, it's clear that it is given to the best player in the world, not to the player with the best season in the world...so it will go to Messi again

by The Sanchez Fri May 03, 2013 2:40 am

Hopefully not.

by Cotes Fri May 03, 2013 4:02 am

Marco Reus if Dortmund wins, Sweini/Muller if Bayern win

by BarrileteCosmico Fri May 03, 2013 4:18 am

Personally I don't see where the Schweinsteiger hype is coming from either. He put in a monster defensive performance - same as most of his team really - but he didn't really create any chances, most of which came (predictably) from the wings and dead ball situations. I'm sure he's been great vs other teams, but against Barca there were others in his own team that outshined him.