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Post by hrealmadrid Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:23 am

The Benz not singing the French anthem thread got me thinking. There was a lot of debate around the 2006 World Cup regarding whether FIFA should restrict national team coaches, changing the rules so only citizens of that country could coach the team. Hardly materialized of course, for a number of reasons.

I know the US would be in shambles without Klinsmann.
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Post by Zealous Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:26 am

Has there ever been an example of a team winning an international trophy with a foreign coach? Not suggesting anything just genuinely asking.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:35 am

I kind of think, yeah they should be from the nation. It kind of makes sense.

But its not a real big thing and its probably a good thing it isnt like this. There would of been many great coaches out of a job not based on merit, but just being unlucky.

And Zeal, only 1 I know of. Otto Rehhagel for Greece.

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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:37 am

I kind of feel like they have to. They probably have a bigger influence on the team than any single player.
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Post by Lex Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:38 am

Otto :bow:
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Post by Zealous Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:47 am

Forgot about Rehhagel Smile

I think for the top footballing countries it isn't really necessary since they tend to produce good coaches anyway. Implementing a rule saying only native coaches can be in that position would hurt "smaller" countries still finding their feet I would think.

I personally prefer native coaches because they tend to have a better understanding of how to communicate with the players. If you have that kind of barrier then the coach is unlikely to do well.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:49 am

I agree, it only hurts smaller teams, gives them less of a chance.

Greece are not winning that without Otto, I think we can all agree on that. His tactics were top quality, well defensively.

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Post by futbol Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:50 am

I think the biggest football nations don't hire foreign coaches anyway. Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy, France. Did they ever have a foreign coach in their history?

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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:52 am

Zealous wrote:Forgot about Rehhagel Smile

I think for the top footballing countries it isn't really necessary since they tend to produce good coaches anyway. Implementing a rule saying only native coaches can be in that position would hurt "smaller" countries still finding their feet I would think.

I personally prefer native coaches because they tend to have a better understanding of how to communicate with the players. If you have that kind of barrier then the coach is unlikely to do well.

You're 100% right, well, I would love for us to always have a native coach, but I can understand that bringin in a coach from the big guns can help countries with some talented players, but lacking in infrastructure, like the African and Asian FAs often have that problem.
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Post by Onyx Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:56 am

It kinda makes more sense if the NT has a coach who's the same nationality. However there's nothing wrong with a NT having a coach who isn't the same nationality.

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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:57 am

Well Ștefan Kovocs, former Ajax (Romanian) once coached France.

Dont know about anyone else.


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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:07 am

The Franchise wrote:Well Ștefan Kovocs, former Ajax (Romanian) once coached France.

Dont know about anyone else.



He didn't win anything though.

If you're just looking for any foreign coaches, there's tons.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:09 am

I was answering the question of foreign coaches coaching the teams named by futbol.
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Post by billy_gr Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:11 am

Otto :bow:
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Post by Moqqis Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:35 am

Roy Hodgson is the best manager that has coached finland, so that is going to be kind of bad for us pale

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Post by rwo power Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:45 am

futbol wrote:I think the biggest football nations don't hire foreign coaches anyway. Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy, France. Did they ever have a foreign coach in their history?
I like how you left out England there Razz
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Post by Onyx Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:47 am

England need to be hiring foreign coaches in order to change the style of play imo. Foreign coaches who can play good football.

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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:48 am

Cant change style of play without players. England need players first.
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Post by rwo power Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:50 am

Yohan Modric wrote:England need to be hiring foreign coaches in order to change the style of play imo. Foreign coaches who can play good football.
Well, they tried with Sven-Göran Eriksson and Fabio Capello....
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Post by Onyx Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:53 am

Sven's probably not renown for good football neither is Capello imo.

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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:58 am

Not true.

Lazio played good stuff.

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Post by Jay29 Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:11 pm

We're playing decent stuff under Hodgson now, anyway.

To an extent, I do think coaches should be from the nation of the team he's coaching, if only so the whole set-up becomes a true representation of that nation.

However, some of the smaller nations can become more competitive with a foreign coach. They might not be able to produce decent enough coach themselves, but their players could learn a lot from someone coming in from the outside.

Having a manager from your own nation should always be the goal, but in the interest of competition, teams should be allowed to have foreign coaches.

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Post by hrealmadrid Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:05 pm

I agree with above poster. To be honest I think that's the real beauty in it. The nation competing with their collective footballing mindset. Underdeveloped footballing nations definitely deserve foreign coaches.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:10 pm

I'm still to be convinced Hodgson is English tbh.

His nose is gigantic for one and he looks the Penquin from Batman.

And just like the Penquin he spent large parts of his life away from his supposed home country hmm

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Post by Doc Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:17 pm

Us and Jamaica qualified for the WC under foreign coaches. Not that our own coaches are a bunch of dodo birds, it's simply a matter of respect. We (as in my country) tend to respect a guy who has coached foreign teams (Leo Beinhhacker? coached Ajax, Real Madrid and the Dutch) than someone who, well, did not from our own back yard.

So basically, for us small footballing countries, we need some of that foreign goodness. But for the the big boys, you gents have enough resources to go local.

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