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Post by rwo power Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:13 pm

...although we don't know yet who it is ^^

Stay tuned - the guy was elected, but hasn't looked out of the window yet ^^
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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:15 pm

Yep white smoke is seen. Hope it's an African Pope or a progressive pope.
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Post by rwo power Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:17 pm

Well, I'm not Catholic, so I don't mind who it is, but I like watching history being made ^^
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Post by rwo power Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:20 pm

LOL, the commentator in the ZDF: Well, I can calm you down, the Champions League match today will be broadcast normally - so you will see two matters of great importance in the ZDF today XD
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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:33 pm

Lol Razz I'm catholic so I hope to see a more modern pope.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:41 pm

The tension in the air lol
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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:43 pm

Youngest Pope was elected at the age of 24 in 99 AD Shocked Not sure if I read that right or wrong lol
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Post by rwo power Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:46 pm

The custom of changing the name to something Christian was invented when one Pope was elected whose original name was "Merkur". Couldn't have a guy with the name of a pagan God as Pope Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:47 pm

So many people at this time.
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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:50 pm

rwo power wrote:The custom of changing the name to something Christian was invented when one Pope was elected whose original name was "Merkur". Couldn't have a guy with the name of a pagan God as Pope Laughing
Well it makes alot of sense though at the time.
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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:14 pm

Cardinal Bergoglio of Argentina
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:18 pm

Bergoglio! Argentine :bow: First Jesuit Pope :bow:

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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:20 pm

Step forward for the Church
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Post by rwo power Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:25 pm

Habemus Papam!  Pope10
Pope Cesc No.1
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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:30 pm

Pope Francis I
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Post by RealGunner Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:37 pm

Pope Francis 1 is renowned for his 2001 visit to a hospice, in which he washed and kissed the feet of 12 AIDS patients.
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Post by Juveman17 Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:55 pm

He is a very humble man, honest, and overall a great person. Great choice to put more transparency into the church and truly connect to people around the globe.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:13 pm

A pope for the poor Proud

On the treatment of people: "In the city, slavery is the order of the day"
On poverty: "The social debt is immoral, unjust and illegitimate"
On corruption: "The poorest, for the better off, don't count"

(you can see the videos of these controversial statements here http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1562748-los-discursos-mas-polemicos-de-bergoglio )

Very cool and down to earth guy, was 2nd in the former elections, first franciscan pope?



The Wikileaks cables included detailed diplomatic assessments of all the 2005 papal candidates, including Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio:

-- BERGOGLIO, Jorge Mario: Born December 17, 1936 in Buenos Aires, and ordained December 13, 1969 during his theological studies at the Theological Faculty of San Miguel. Bergoglio served as Jesuit Provincial (elected leader of the order) for Argentina (1973-79) and rector of the Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel (1980-86). After completing his doctoral dissertation in Germany, Bergoglio served as a confessor and spiritual director in Cordoba. In 1992, the Pope appointed him Assistant Bishop of Buenos Aires; then in 1997, he was appointed Coadjutor Archbishop (deputy archbishop with right of succession) of Buenos Aires; ultimately becoming Archbishop on February 28, 1998. Bergoglio is the vice-President of the Argentine Bishops Conference and serves on the Vatican's committee for the worldwide synod of bishops (a grouping of all bishops conferences). He speaks Spanish, Italian and German. Bergoglio exemplifies the virtues of the wise pastor that many electors value. Observers have praised his humility: he has been reluctant to accept honors or hold high office and commutes to work on a bus. What could count against him is his membership in the Jesuit order. Some senior prelates, especially conservatives, are suspicious of a liberal streak in the order, perhaps most pronounced in the U.S., but also present elsewhere. Bergoglio is said to prefer life in the local Church as opposed to a bureaucratic existence in Rome's ecclesiastical structures, but at the same time he has been willing to serve on the Vatican's various supervisory committees. This could indicate an ability to bridge the curia/local church divide that splits the College of Cardinal Electors, making him a good compromise candidate.
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Post by Swanhends Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:05 pm

Cardinals getting around electing someone who is not European by electing someone whose parents were European Proud

Its Wigglesworth's patented "Messi is Italian" theory....classic

Nah but in all seriousness he seems like a good guy, god knows the church could definitely use a shift in focus away from obsessing over obsolete dogmas and making meaningless changes to mass, towards actually helping the poor

Hopefully thats the direction he goes in
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:16 pm

Very satisfied with this result given my tension surrounding the candidate. Pope Francis will be without a doubt a fantastic Pope due to his illustrious background of nothing but genuine contribution to his societies throughout his life. He represents the modern transition of Catholicism lead by the Italian republic and is the right man for the spot.

Not European? He is Italian :coffee:
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Post by Swanhends Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:27 pm

Arquitecto wrote:Not European? He is Italian :coffee:

Thats kind of my point...The Church is almost 2000 years old yet we've yet to have a pope who wasn't a white-european (to my knowledge, at least)

Picking the guy from Argentina who is a first generation immigrant is sort of cutting the corner on that issue, IMO

Also even though the guy seems like a genuinely nice man, and his service to the poor especially is admirable...He has the same twisted backwards views on contraception/homosexuality as Benedict, which is troubling to me, to say the least.

But no one is perfect, and if he makes his Papacy about helping the poor then it will be well worth it
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Post by Eivindo Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:06 am

i wanted to see a black papa, the timing would just be right!
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Post by CBarca Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:01 am

Anyone think Messi might have influenced this?
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Post by che Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:07 am

when two jesuit priests were speaking out against the argentinian junta in 1976 he didn't support them or say anything in their defence even after they were tortured... dat moral integrity :bow:

he also hates abortion, contraception, euthanasia and homosexuals but that's to be expected from an old white catholic... meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
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Post by free_cat Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:13 am

Cool.
Now he should admit that catholicism - and christianity - is a fraud and dismantle the church or convert it into an ONG.
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