Re: Oscar vs Wilshere

by Gil Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:57 pm

The Franchise wrote:By productive, you mean stats dont you?

What else would that mean?

by The Franchise Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:13 pm

I dont know, because stats for a midfield are just silly. Especially when you consider one of the players has been injured for 18 months.

Comparing who "is more productive" based on stats is one of the worst way I could think of comparing these two for various reasons.

by Ganso Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:32 pm

The Franchise wrote: Especially when you consider one of the players has been injured for 18 months.

That is the thing though,Oscar has done so much in the past year while Wilshere has done close to nothing

by The Franchise Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:57 pm

That doesnt make Oscar better, it just means Jack has been injured.

by Ganso Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:00 am

Then they shouldn't even be compared,we haven't seen enough of Jack recently,This thread should be bumped or something at the end of the season

by The Franchise Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:05 am

I agree.

The only thing we can go on is Jack pre injury to Oscar now.

Jack pre injury impressed me more but thats not really relevant as to who's better right now.

by The Sanchez Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:35 am

One is a creative playmaker whilst the other is a box-to-box attacking mid. In terms of creativity, all playing, defensive playing Wilshere all over Oscar however Oscar has a better final ball, better skill and dribbling and shooter.

by DuringTheWar Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:03 am

skill? wilshere has better ball control, which I consider skill. Wilshere is better at dribbling as well, he has way more power and dynamism

by Valkyrja Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:26 am

Wilshere has better ball control than Oscar ?

by RealGunner Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:46 pm

without a doubt

by Arquitecto Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:43 pm

Oscar has been better then Wilshere in the past year....I'm guessing half of this forum forgot Wilshere has been injured for more than one and a half year. When Wilshere wasn't injured he was dominating midfields in the Premier League and the Champions League in EUROPE and not Brazil whereas goals aside Oscar has had little of the influence he had for country and club since he has come to Chelsea as even Hazard has been superior to him. Yes Oscar is only 20 and by no means is flopping yet he has done nothing to prove he is superior to Wilshere especially considering Wilshere arguably been Arsenal's best player since coming back and has shown a wider array of skill sets if you ask me.

Hands down Wilshere for me.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:48 pm

The Franchise wrote:I dont know, because stats for a midfield are just silly. Especially when you consider one of the players has been injured for 18 months.

Comparing who "is more productive" based on stats is one of the worst way I could think of comparing these two for various reasons.

It's also funny considering how Gil goes on about stats and how he hates them, but when it comes to Chelsea players he uses it as a reason why they are better. Laughing

by Hagi Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:56 am

Wilshere is overrated.I'd rather take Oscar at Napoli than Wilshere.My vote goes for the brazilian.

by Kaladin Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:05 am

Arquitecto wrote:Oscar has been better then Wilshere in the past year....I'm guessing half of this forum forgot Wilshere has been injured for more than one and a half year. When Wilshere wasn't injured he was dominating midfields in the Premier League and the Champions League in EUROPE and not Brazil whereas goals aside Oscar has had little of the influence he had for country and club since he has come to Chelsea as even Hazard has been superior to him. Yes Oscar is only 20 and by no means is flopping yet he has done nothing to prove he is superior to Wilshere especially considering Wilshere arguably been Arsenal's best player since coming back and has shown a wider array of skill sets if you ask me.

Hands down Wilshere for me.

Couldn't agree more Arq, Wilshere it is for me

by Lex Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:11 am

Ganso wrote:That is the thing though,Oscar has done so much in the past year while Wilshere has done close to nothing

by Lex Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:13 am

I'll say this much though, the little golden statue has surprised me so far. Hasn't been as useless as I thought he was going to be.

by danyjr Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:36 pm

Comparing apples and oranges in my opinion.

Wilshere is one who's fantastic at retaining the ball, he keeps it simple and has got great awareness. A gem for any possession-based team because of his composure and accurate passing.

Oscar is more versatile than Wilshere. He surpasses the Englishman in attacking positions by creating goalscoring opportunities (or scoring) while he can still play central roles at ease. Wilshere is simply a box-to-box midfielder, better at defending and someone you can rely on when under pressure.

Last but not least, Oscar needs more time to adapt to EPL while Wilshere has been playing in the same system since childhood.

by Ganso Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:44 pm

Lex wrote:
Ganso wrote:That is the thing though,Oscar has done so much in the past year while Wilshere has done close to nothing

at you,what has Wheelchair done in 2012?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:49 pm

Wilshere was bossed by Bigirimana and only started to effect the game in last 15 mins when he went off and our players tired.

Oscar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

by Nishankly Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:51 pm

Wilshere for me.

Oscar is just one of many similar players in his position ie AM.

by Lex Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:57 pm

Ganso wrote:
Lex wrote:
Ganso wrote:That is the thing though,Oscar has done so much in the past year while Wilshere has done close to nothing
at you,what has Wheelchair done in 2012?

So, because Oscar has "done so much" this year while Wilshere was out with an injury, that automatically makes him the better player? :facepalm:

Gareth Barry's "done so much" this year too, does that make him a better player than, say, Diaby or Hargreaves?

Please leave your Brazilian bias at home, it's getting REALLY boring

by Ganso Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:02 pm

Lex wrote:
Ganso wrote:
Lex wrote:
at you,what has Wheelchair done in 2012?
So, because Oscar has "done so much" this year while Wilshere was out with an injury, that automatically makes him the better player?

Gareth Barry's "done so much" this year too, does that make him a better player than, say, Diaby or Hargreaves?

Please leave your Brazilian bias at home, it's getting REALLY boring

When did i say that Oscar was better? Rolling Eyes

Read back,I said that Oscar and Wilshere shouldn't even be compared because Wilshere spent an entire year injured.

Me biased?Pretty funny coming from you Laughing

by Lex Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:14 pm

Ganso wrote:When did i say that Oscar was better?

Ganso wrote:
The Franchise wrote: Especially when you consider one of the players has been injured for 18 months.
That is the thing though,Oscar has done so much in the past year while Wilshere has done close to nothing

Ganso wrote:I said that Oscar and Wilshere shouldn't even be compared because Wilshere spent an entire year injured

No you didn't

The Franchise wrote:That doesnt make Oscar better, it just means Jack has been injured.

Ganso wrote:Then they shouldn't even be compared

You said nothing of the sort UNTIL after Francs called bull, then you U turned and change your tone Laughing

Your initial comment implied exactly what you wanted it to, it took someone pointing out the obvious for you to back track and re-write your story Rolling Eyes

by Abramovich Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:56 pm

Ganso wrote:
Lex wrote:
Ganso wrote: at you,what has Wheelchair done in 2012?
So, because Oscar has "done so much" this year while Wilshere was out with an injury, that automatically makes him the better player?

Gareth Barry's "done so much" this year too, does that make him a better player than, say, Diaby or Hargreaves?

Please leave your Brazilian bias at home, it's getting REALLY boring
When did i say that Oscar was better? Read back,I said that Oscar and Wilshere shouldn't even be compared because Wilshere spent an entire year injured.

Me biased?Pretty funny coming from you

Don't know why I found this so funny but I did :/, so true anyways Laughing

by Lex Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:01 pm

It's New Year's Eve.....maybe you had one too many glasses of the old bubbly

by Abramovich Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:26 pm

Maybe so but you have a right to be bias anyways your a proper Arsenal fan Proud

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