Europa League Winners Straight Into The CL

Why hasnt this been adapted yet? Isnt it enough of a feat to be included into the champions league, if you win the europa league? With so many poor teams in the group stages compared to the europa league finalists, shouldnt there be some rule where the winners, or even the finalists get to go to the cl? Surely theyd have to rework the system, but it would give the event more prestige, and actual reasons to win it to sides like liverpool, etc.

Should the europa league winners be sent into the cl?

It could be a real event of the best of the rest, fighting to reach the top competition by going throught a lower tier one, makes sense really.

I'd be to give the finalists a spot in the CL, too.

How will they defend their title then?

Honestly, I would rather they earn the spot through the league and if they wanted the money over the trophy, they would give up the Europa league for a run at CL qualification.

Kick wrote:How will they defend their title then?

Honestly, I would rather they earn the spot through the league and if they wanted the money over the trophy, they would give up the Europa league for a run at CL qualification.

No need to defend the trophy, if you prove your self to be the best of the rest, you deserve a shot at "the best", no one gives a dam for the trophy anyways, what people want is cl, the big clubs anyways.

Well idealy through the league, but the idea is not bad, it would add possibly more reason to teams who want to aspire to higher ambitions to win, and with more importance, they'd get more views, look at liverpool or tottenham, they could arguably be in the cl, or atleast tottenham could, it wouldnt be too shabby for a team like them to get a second chance at cl, despite losing out in the last minute 4th spot in the premier league.

The 14th wrote:

Kick wrote:How will they defend their title then?

Honestly, I would rather they earn the spot through the league and if they wanted the money over the trophy, they would give up the Europa league for a run at CL qualification.

No need to defend the trophy, if you prove your self to be the best of the rest, you deserve a shot at "the best", no one gives a dam for the trophy anyways, what people want is cl, the big clubs anyways.

Well idealy through the league, but the idea is not bad, it would add possibly more reason to teams who want to aspire to higher ambitions to win, and with more importance, they'd get more views, look at liverpool or tottenham, they could arguably be in the cl, or atleast tottenham could, it wouldnt be too shabby for a team like them to get a second chance at cl, despite losing out in the last minute 4th spot in the premier league.

A trophy is a trophy, everyone wants one, and once you got it, you want to defend it.

Agreed %100 with this idea. It would give teams an incentive to fight and win this trophy. I don't think it would be a good idea to give both finalists a chance to go through, only one team should suffice.

Yeah, I think it would be a fitting reward to grant the EL winners an automatic CL spot next season.

Defending the EL title is not an issue, imo, because you might win the EL and finish in CL spots in your domestic league and therefore end up in CL anyway.

Kick wrote:

The 14th wrote:

Kick wrote:How will they defend their title then?

Honestly, I would rather they earn the spot through the league and if they wanted the money over the trophy, they would give up the Europa league for a run at CL qualification.

No need to defend the trophy, if you prove your self to be the best of the rest, you deserve a shot at "the best", no one gives a dam for the trophy anyways, what people want is cl, the big clubs anyways.

Well idealy through the league, but the idea is not bad, it would add possibly more reason to teams who want to aspire to higher ambitions to win, and with more importance, they'd get more views, look at liverpool or tottenham, they could arguably be in the cl, or atleast tottenham could, it wouldnt be too shabby for a team like them to get a second chance at cl, despite losing out in the last minute 4th spot in the premier league.

A trophy is a trophy, everyone wants one, and once you got it, you want to defend it.

The trophy can serve as a ticket, a ticket to the next level, deportivo la coruna got decended into segunda, the fans cried tears of shame, of hopelessness, im not sure whether they won segunda but either way they are back in primera, and thats worth much more to them than defending segunda.

To a liverpool or athletico fan it would mean much more to fight among the best than to defend what they already won, the winners at the very least should go to the cl, if they get eliminated in group stage theyd just go through the process again.

Really, defending the trophy here is the least of the problems.

Do you realise how much revenue in watching this would in turn cause?

Its good money wise, and football wise.

anything to give teams an incentive to compete for EL is a plus imo.

and to me that sounds like a pretty good idea.

as for defending the trophy- who cares? if a team wins EL and qualify for CL that season they arent going to trade CL so they can defend their trophy.

I think that if they are not going to give far greater financial incentives for the EL, qualification for the CL is a back-door way of motivating teams to take the competition more seriously to get the financial incentives associated with that.

I think that even the semi-finalists should get CL qualification.

I like the idea but, who should get kicked out so the EL winner can enter?

Like when Chelsea kicked out Spurs when they won CL, should it be for example, the EL winner Atletico kicking off the 4th place La Liga team?

I don't think anyone should be kicked out. Just create an automatic berth for the EL winner in the 1st qualifying round and let them fight their way up towards group stages. Kind of like Liverpool in 2005-06. The 4th place in England (Everton) didn't get the boot out of the competition, so England had 5 teams in CL that year.

Kick wrote:How will they defend their title then?

That hardly matters tbh.I mean for instance when Sevilla won the EL and qualified for the CL for the following season we dint see people talk about their title defense or even Porto for example who won the EL and qualified for the CL the following year it was a similar scenario.

The format is such that 'title defense' is quite redundant tbh.Also over the years we have noticed that teams who have won the EL are good enough compete in the CL so yeah i would definitely view this as an incentive and perhaps greater competition amongst teams for the EL trophy as we've noticed there are a lot of big teams who time and time again field their B teams which really kills of the competitiveness for a particular fixture for instance.

Maybe it can be optional.

Optional? Which team would forfeit access to the CL for the chance of defending the EL title?

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:I don't think anyone should be kicked out. Just create an automatic berth for the EL winner in the 1st qualifying round and let them fight their way up towards group stages. Kind of like Liverpool in 2005-06. The 4th place in England (Everton) didn't get the boot out of the competition, so England had 5 teams in CL that year.

I agree nobody should get kicked out.

Surag wrote:

Kick wrote:How will they defend their title then?

That hardly matters tbh.I mean for instance when Sevilla won the EL and qualified for the CL for the following season we dint see people talk about their title defense or even Porto for example who won the EL and qualified for the CL the following year it was a similar scenario.

The format is such that 'title defense' is quite redundant tbh.Also over the years we have noticed that teams who have won the EL are good enough compete in the CL so yeah i would definitely view this as an incentive and perhaps greater competition amongst teams for the EL trophy as we've noticed there are a lot of big teams who time and time again field their B teams which really kills of the competitiveness for a particular fixture for instance.

Agree with this too. No club would care about defending EL title if they could be in the CL instead.

rwo power wrote:Optional? Which team would forfeit access to the CL for the chance of defending the EL title?

A team that prefers the EL to the CL.

Yohan Modric wrote:

rwo power wrote:Optional? Which team would forfeit access to the CL for the chance of defending the EL title?

A team that prefers the EL to the CL.

Hm... Examples?

Yohan Modric wrote:

rwo power wrote:Optional? Which team would forfeit access to the CL for the chance of defending the EL title?

A team that prefers the EL to the CL.

Would never happen. Financially, it would be better even if they went into the CL and got knocked out back into the EL for finishing 3rd in the group.

Yohan Modric wrote:

rwo power wrote:Optional? Which team would forfeit access to the CL for the chance of defending the EL title?

A team that prefers the EL to the CL.

Even the perennial underachievers in the Champions League wouldn't want that

Hmm it would be a good idea if the winner went straight into CL, but as some here said, who would be kicked out???

they shouldnt knock out someone per se like in the case of chelsea winning knocking out spurs of their spot but they should take a cl spot away from one of the lower leagues from the start and if that EL winning team happens to clinch a CL spot anyways then just give the spot back

Nah I think that would be unfair on the lower leagues.

like mt said, it would be very unfair to those "lower league" teams, lets not forget how they strive to play in CL to start with

maybe they can start in the qualifying round and add one spot to Italy and one more to selected other leagues to make up the number in the groups, that way there would be one more team in each group, which isn't that bad, also as a result of so many games they should stop the stupid international friendlies

Adding incentives to a competition that really needs to be taken more seriously is a great idea.

I'd let both finalists advance to the CL, that way the competition is more fierce in the earlier stages and the teams in the final would play a more open game since they already "won".