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My ban is absurd and embarrassing, fumes Conte
by Juveman17 Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:02 pm
Conte has now seen all of his attempts to legally clear his name fail, and with Massimo Carrera now set to fill in as caretaker manager for the remainder of the season, the 43-year-old took to a press conference to share his side of the story.
“The time has arrived for us to talk after hearing what everyone else had to say,” said Conte to reporters.
“I’ve always respected the rules, on and off the pitch. I have comported myself in the right way throughout this whole affair.
"I’ve behaved in the right way, despite the fact that I have suffered some grave injustice. I’ve never placed a bet in my life, but I’ve become an advert for the betting scandal. Now I want to clear a few things up."
Conte then proceeded hit out at former player Filippo Carobbio, who provided evidence against the Bianconeri boss that helped the prosecution achieve its guilty verdict.
“They judged Pippo Carobbio, who they painted as my best friend, as a reliable and credible person, while the Federal Prosecutor has deemed me not credible.
"What the Federal Prosecutor said is chilling. I consider a plea bargain blackmail. I'm an innocent person, yet I’m told by my lawyer to plea-bargain.
“It’s embarrassing. They have ruined my credibility in the changing room. Those people who know me know what type of person Antonio Conte is.
"I’m used to winning on the field of play. It’s all absurd. Everyone needs to understand what has been done to me because it is embarrassing.
“Now I’m afraid to argue with one of my own players. If I send one of my players into the stands then this type of thing can happen.
"They believe the word of someone who has been selling games for three-and-a-half years, someone who sold his family.
“What can I do? Take a camcorder with me everywhere which records my every move? This type of thing can now happen to anyone."
The former midfielder also reacted incredulously to the words of Italian judge Piero Sandulli, who claimed that he was lucky to have escaped a three-year ban for his involvement in the scandal.
“Yesterday’s comments [by Sandulli] seemed to be the icing on the cake. I was left appalled by what was said by one of the commission’s judges, who, perhaps in order to make the papers, said some unusual things," he concluded.
Here is the video if anyone want's to watch it:
“The time has arrived for us to talk after hearing what everyone else had to say,” said Conte to reporters.
“I’ve always respected the rules, on and off the pitch. I have comported myself in the right way throughout this whole affair.
"I’ve behaved in the right way, despite the fact that I have suffered some grave injustice. I’ve never placed a bet in my life, but I’ve become an advert for the betting scandal. Now I want to clear a few things up."
Conte then proceeded hit out at former player Filippo Carobbio, who provided evidence against the Bianconeri boss that helped the prosecution achieve its guilty verdict.
“They judged Pippo Carobbio, who they painted as my best friend, as a reliable and credible person, while the Federal Prosecutor has deemed me not credible.
"What the Federal Prosecutor said is chilling. I consider a plea bargain blackmail. I'm an innocent person, yet I’m told by my lawyer to plea-bargain.
“It’s embarrassing. They have ruined my credibility in the changing room. Those people who know me know what type of person Antonio Conte is.
"I’m used to winning on the field of play. It’s all absurd. Everyone needs to understand what has been done to me because it is embarrassing.
“Now I’m afraid to argue with one of my own players. If I send one of my players into the stands then this type of thing can happen.
"They believe the word of someone who has been selling games for three-and-a-half years, someone who sold his family.
“What can I do? Take a camcorder with me everywhere which records my every move? This type of thing can now happen to anyone."
The former midfielder also reacted incredulously to the words of Italian judge Piero Sandulli, who claimed that he was lucky to have escaped a three-year ban for his involvement in the scandal.
“Yesterday’s comments [by Sandulli] seemed to be the icing on the cake. I was left appalled by what was said by one of the commission’s judges, who, perhaps in order to make the papers, said some unusual things," he concluded.
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Re: My ban is absurd and embarrassing, fumes Conte
by Juveman17 Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:04 pm
Btw, The Novara-Siena game has been said by the FIGC that Conte is innocent in that game. The only game left if Albinoleffe-Siena.
I don't understand how Conte can be charged like this by one "credible" witness. Carobbio is a man who cannot be trusted..........how can you take one man's word against 23 others?
I don't understand how Conte can be charged like this by one "credible" witness. Carobbio is a man who cannot be trusted..........how can you take one man's word against 23 others?
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by che Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:06 pm
so he agreed to a 3 month ban but a 12 month ban is absurd? that escalated quickly...
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by Juveman17 Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:09 pm
che wrote:so he agreed to a 3 month ban but a 12 month ban is absurd? that escalated quickly...
che wrote:so he agreed to a 3 month ban but a 12 month ban is absurd? that escalated quickly...
A plea bargain for 3 months is not an admission of guilt........this 3 month ban was agreed with by the FIGC but they just used it to blackmail Conte. They turned it into evidence against when it shouldn't be.
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by S Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:14 pm
che wrote:so he agreed to a 3 month ban but a 12 month ban is absurd? that escalated quickly...
http://www.football-italia.net/22581/contes-stand
Read this whole article.
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by Le Samourai Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:01 am
Having your mistakes exposed is usually embarrassing.
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by The Messiah Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:37 am
Why always Juventus.
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by Zealous Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:40 am
juveman17 wrote:che wrote:so he agreed to a 3 month ban but a 12 month ban is absurd? that escalated quickly...che wrote:so he agreed to a 3 month ban but a 12 month ban is absurd? that escalated quickly...
A plea bargain for 3 months is not an admission of guilt........this 3 month ban was agreed with by the FIGC but they just used it to blackmail Conte. They turned it into evidence against when it shouldn't be.
Then he should fire his lawyer.
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by nichabr Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:25 am
LOL.....Why would you propose a plea bargain for 3 months if you know you are infact innocent? Conte can blame his lawyer all he wants but you have to be some kind of idiot to do that and expect anyone to think of you as innocent even if you truely are.
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by S Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:09 am
nichabr wrote:LOL.....Why would you propose a plea bargain for 3 months if you know you are infact innocent? Conte can blame his lawyer all he wants but you have to be some kind of idiot to do that and expect anyone to think of you as innocent even if you truely are.
i wont repeat myself again.read this article please
http://www.football-italia.net/22581/contes-stand
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by free_cat Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:13 am
I thought this thread was about some user being banned before reading after the comma. 
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by S Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:20 am
Mastronunzio: Conte didn't play me the last 3 games because I WAS INJURED! Not because I didn't want to take part in fixing games."
Mastronunzio: "Conte never told us the draw was the result to get during that meeting".
This is contrary to what Carrobio has been claiming.
Mastronunzio told all that to the court but Palazzi belives Carobbio is credible and Mastronunzio isn't and Carrobio himself is a giant criminal ,its because of him that Conte got his ban in the first place cuz his evidence was 'deemed' credible.
Mastronunzio is an ex Siena player btw who played under Conte while he was in charge at Siena.
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by sportsczy Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:49 am
Reason why i stopped supporting Juve. They cheated and never really apologized for it several years back. Now they hire a manager who was in charge of players involved in match fixing and he doesn't take responsibility as the manager... In fact, given their history, Juve should have fired Conte on the spot after he got the ban. They can't afford the association.
But regarding Conte specifically... this is like Rupert Murdoch saying he is not responsible for his employees when they wiretap people illegally. Murdoch is the CEO of Newscorp. Conte is the manager of his club. In the end, everything your employees/players do that affects the company/club is your responsibility. Just accept the consequences and move forward. He's lucky to still have a job.
But regarding Conte specifically... this is like Rupert Murdoch saying he is not responsible for his employees when they wiretap people illegally. Murdoch is the CEO of Newscorp. Conte is the manager of his club. In the end, everything your employees/players do that affects the company/club is your responsibility. Just accept the consequences and move forward. He's lucky to still have a job.
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by S Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:59 am
I dont know why this was even posted in the General Section.People speak what they want and claim too know it all which in reality isnt the case.Rather not have this topic here at all..
Next time Juveman17 please keep it within the Juventus section itself.Posting threads like these is asking for more trolling content as there's just too much ignorance around here.
Btw Juventus board believe that Conte is innocent in this whole fixing affair and they will be backing him 100%.This whole trial is so laughable really,one criminal witness is enough to award a severe punishment.Even Conte's assistant coach Alessio as he says here " “I was charged and sentenced without even being interviewed by the prosecution. I was judged without ever being heard!”.
Next time Juveman17 please keep it within the Juventus section itself.Posting threads like these is asking for more trolling content as there's just too much ignorance around here.
Btw Juventus board believe that Conte is innocent in this whole fixing affair and they will be backing him 100%.This whole trial is so laughable really,one criminal witness is enough to award a severe punishment.Even Conte's assistant coach Alessio as he says here " “I was charged and sentenced without even being interviewed by the prosecution. I was judged without ever being heard!”.
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by S Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:08 am
You can read his full speech which he gave yesterday
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- We requested this press conference because I think the time has come, after much waiting and a long silence from my part (as a principle of decency for those who were carrying out the investigation, those who had to judge, those who had to do their work). I have listened to everyone while remaining silent, even heard someone say “but why are you keeping silent?”. But I respected — as I always have — the rules, both in and off the field: in this matter I think I behaved very much correctly.
This is an absurd matter. And I think the absurdity reached it peak yesterday, where we had the icing on the cake: I was appalled, shocked by the declarations of a member of the committee that judged me. Something serious, something never seen before. I define the behavior on the part of this gentleman [Piero Sandulli - Ed.] as improper and well outside regulations. Let’s talk about regulations: this gentleman should respect regulations. He should, above all, enforce them. Instead, what do I see? I see a man who perhaps, to appear on the front page of all national newspapers thanks to me and my name, makes very inappropriate statements. Whether he did so as a fan of another team I don’t know, but certainly inappropriate, and which make me think that maybe this man holds a personal grudge against me.
As I said I have always behaved properly, always, despite the pain and the knowledge that I have suffered a grave injustice. A serious injustice. Today I think it’s time to dot the I’s and cross the T’s.
Novara-Siena: it’s been 7 months I’ve been on the front page of newspapers, in news shows of national and private televisions. 7 months that my face is always shown together with Calcioscommesse. Me, who never gambled in my life. 7 months that you continue to talk about this “famous” — because it has now become extremely famous –technical meeting before Novara-Siena, where I allegedly spoke to my players reassuring everyone about a fixed draw.
Let me explain the concept of a technical meeting: the technical meeting is something sacred. On the Sunday before the game, the technical meeting is where we talk about technique, tactics, show pictures, on how to hurt the opponent, how not to get hurt ourselves. Then comes a motivational speech from my part, a highly motivational one, in which — depending to the situation — I amp up my players even more or release their tension. And supposedly, after I do all this… after all this work in preparing the game – where I talk about technical & tactical aspects, about exceptionally high motivations – what do I do then? “Guys today don’t worry, it’s all right: we draw.” I cover myself in ridicule in front of 25 people… in front of their families (because they’d no doubt tell the story to them), in front of their agents. THIS was the infamous accusation that led Calcioscommesse to Antonio Conte. To becoming its poster-boy. Me! Someone who has never placed a bet in his life.
Today I find that Mr. Carobbio… Mr. “Pippo” (because it is “Pippo” for the prosecution, not Filippo Carobbio… it’s PIPPO, because they now go together like peanut butter and jelly) is considered a “collaborator of justice”. Seeing that he was questioned 5 times, seeing that he was last questioned on July 10, before *I* was questioned, I would consider him more a “handyman” of a *supposed* justice.
The prosecution considers Mr. Pippo a liar. A LIAR. That is, “not credible”. Whereas for the Federal Prosecutor, Pippo Carobbio (not Filippo) is a “highly credible person,” whereas Antonio Conte “less credible”… “Not credible” even. I think that credibility, in life, is something you earn every day. And I think that throughout my life, I have gained GREAT credibility. Unlike those who have sold matches, sold themselves, their family, and their teammates for the past three years! And yet the words coming out of the federal prosecutor, words I’m forced to hear, are him being defined “highly credible” and I “not credible”.
Do you know the Federal Prosecution? Do you know the *methods* the Federal Prosecutor uses? You’ve read about them. Maybe they have gone unnoticed in Locatelli & Poloni’s interviews, but not to me. What do Locatelli and Poloni say? “We have not said what they wanted to hear. We didn’t name big names in order to get a leaner sentence.” THAT’s what they say.
What they say is chilling!! CHILLING!! But this isn’t something justice scholars are interested in. The methods of the sports prosecution aren’t interesting, especially when it comes to obtaining a plea bargain. The plea bargain? Plea bargaining is blackmail! Plea bargaining is BLACKMAIL! Unfortunately the kind which is also perpetrated by our own lawyers. I am innocent, yet I have to hear this from my lawyer: “You know, maybe, given this justice which doesn’t allow us to defend ourselves, to show your innocence to the fullest, why risk it? Let’s plea bargain”. Me, an innocent person! Me like many others, because there has been a run-up to obtaining all these plea bargains. From this form of “justice”, plea bargains are blackmail, plain and simple!! [voice breaks]
This is a disgrace. A DISGRACE. Today I can say it because it is all over. Well, I say “over” because it is with them, there is still another appeal. Fortunately it IS over with them. Novara-Siena is a shameful accusation against me, against any coach. [Carobbio] questioned my credibility in the locker room. But those who know me know who Antonio Conte is, just as all players of Juventus do. Despite the news came out during the campionato, this never created problems in my work. FALSE news. Today I say “false news”: I already had these thoughts before, but I could not express them.
A disgraceful accusation against the coach, one who should be the LEADER, who must transmit positive values, who must transmit victory on the field. In 5 years I have won 3 championships: one Scudetto and 2 promotions. Am I unpleasant because I win? It is not my problem. I do my job, I do it to the maximum of my ability, demanding the fullest out of myself first, and then out of my players and the club that I work for. Does it bother someone? Not my problem.
Novara-Siena: acquitted. ACQUITTED! Beautiful, the shameful accusation has fallen. All that is left is that other part, the thing that during all these months no one ever mentioned in the newspapers. Heh heh… wrong. There’s Albinoleffe-Siena, where “Conte couldn’t not know.” The lawyers had to take 5 hours to explain to me what “couldn’t not know” means, and if you ask me again now I still have doubts. I don’t think I’m a moron under this aspect.
So, a “failure to report” is gone and you tell yourself: it’s 10 months for two failures to report. One’s left. So you say… maybe the sentence is gonna go down: from 10 it will go down to 5. No! 10 remains 10. Absurd. And today I can say it: everything that has happened to me is ABSURD. The Juventini population and ALL the soccer fans need to know what was done to me, and what is being done to me. Because it’s a disgrace. A disgrace!
They tell me: “Let me explain to you what ‘failure to report’ means, so we can understand each other. (…) It means that I should, if I see something, report it. But if I have not seen anything, WHAT DO I HAVE TO REPORT?! Should I *invent* a report!? What on Earth are we talking about here? WHAT ON EARTH are we talking about?!
I tell you frankly, now after this event, I’m starting to be afraid to go in the locker room, the place where I have to be a leader, and… I don’t know, maybe pick a fight with a player! I’m fearful of maybe sending a player in the stands for the match, because tomorrow what? One goes mad, he gets up, starts to “report”… and this is what “justice” today has proven. Justice today has demonstrated that a person who for three and a half years sold matches, sold himself, his family, and his teammates, is believed to be telling the truth. So I’m afraid. I’m scared. Or maybe I should put a television camera on my forehead, and everywhere I go I’ll have the TV camera, so that 24 hours a day I’ll record what happens to me. Otherwise one has no choice but to be afraid.
I’ll say one more thing to my colleagues and players: today this happened to me and many others. Tomorrow it can happen to THEM! Don’t bury your heads in the sand and say “whatever, it’s happened to him” or “it happened to them, the others who have been charged.” It can happen to anyone! Open your eyes!
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by sportsczy Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:11 am
The Juventus board... the proven bastion of moral and ethical behavior in football. 
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by S Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:26 am
Dont try to start a fight here..You're better than that.
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by Juveman17 Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:48 pm
Surag wrote:I dont know why this was even posted in the General Section.People speak what they want and claim too know it all which in reality isnt the case.Rather not have this topic here at all..
Next time Juveman17 please keep it within the Juventus section itself.Posting threads like these is asking for trolling content as there's just too much ignorance around here.
Btw Juventus board believe that Conte is innocent in this whole fixing affair and they will be backing him 100%.This whole trial is so laughable really,one criminal witness is enough to award a severe punishment.Even Conte's assistant coach Alessio as he says here " “I was charged and sentenced without even being interviewed by the prosecution. I was judged without ever being heard!”.
Yea I'm not posting any Juve stuff in this section anymore. Way too many trolls on this forum.
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by McLewis Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:38 pm
Moved this thread back here as this is where it should've been posted to begin with.
I know you wanted to read the reaction from the rest of the forum Juveman17, but this thread was just going to end up getting derailed by the Anti-Juve contingent.
If you guys want clean, fair debate on this issue with other members of the forum, I suggest starting a thread in the new Clean Debate section. The comments I've seen so far in this thread will not be tolerated in that section.
I know you wanted to read the reaction from the rest of the forum Juveman17, but this thread was just going to end up getting derailed by the Anti-Juve contingent.
If you guys want clean, fair debate on this issue with other members of the forum, I suggest starting a thread in the new Clean Debate section. The comments I've seen so far in this thread will not be tolerated in that section.
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by Juveman17 Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:57 pm
Thanks McLewish I won't post anything like this in the General Section anymore.McLewis wrote:Moved this thread back here as this is where it should've been posted to begin with.
I know you wanted to read the reaction from the rest of the forum Juveman17, but this thread was just going to end up getting derailed by the Anti-Juve contingent.
If you guys want clean, fair debate on this issue with other members of the forum, I suggest starting a thread in the new Clean Debate section. The comments I've seen so far in this thread will not be tolerated in that section.
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by stefanobada Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:01 pm
sportsczy wrote:Reason why i stopped supporting Juve. They cheated and never really apologized for it several years back. Now they hire a manager who was in charge of players involved in match fixing and he doesn't take responsibility as the manager... In fact, given their history, Juve should have fired Conte on the spot after he got the ban. They can't afford the association.
But regarding Conte specifically... this is like Rupert Murdoch saying he is not responsible for his employees when they wiretap people illegally. Murdoch is the CEO of Newscorp. Conte is the manager of his club. In the end, everything your employees/players do that affects the company/club is your responsibility. Just accept the consequences and move forward. He's lucky to still have a job.
You stopped supporting juve because your not a real juve fan. Plain and simple .
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by Juveman17 Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:26 pm
stefanobada wrote:sportsczy wrote:Reason why i stopped supporting Juve. They cheated and never really apologized for it several years back. Now they hire a manager who was in charge of players involved in match fixing and he doesn't take responsibility as the manager... In fact, given their history, Juve should have fired Conte on the spot after he got the ban. They can't afford the association.
But regarding Conte specifically... this is like Rupert Murdoch saying he is not responsible for his employees when they wiretap people illegally. Murdoch is the CEO of Newscorp. Conte is the manager of his club. In the end, everything your employees/players do that affects the company/club is your responsibility. Just accept the consequences and move forward. He's lucky to still have a job.
You stopped supporting juve because your not a real juve fan. Plain and simple .
Well said Stefano
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