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Post by julias Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:56 am

How are Liverpool going to get back into CL spots with this guy missing 7 good chances all the time lol. Some of his misses are laughable, I mean some of them are poor at any level of football.

I am shocked because I see this so often from him and he scored bucket loads in Holland (Iknow Dutch football but still).

WTF lol
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:58 am

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Post by Kick Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:58 am

How can you be a top striker if you can't finish?

Same logic that applied to Torres applies to Suarez.
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Post by Onyx Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:44 am

I'm sure he'll start scoring once Sahin arrives. :coffee:

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Post by Red Alert Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:51 am

How is Sahin's arrival (IF he comes) going to help somebody finish?

Was a bad day for Suarez. Still think he'll score over 15 in the league this season.
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Post by Vibe Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:59 am

Suarez always puts in a great shot,he misses by an inch every time lol.He is just cursed...Misses that small are more about luck than his ability.

It's the curse of Liverpool...
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Post by Red Alert Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:07 am

Vibe wrote:Suarez always puts in a great shot,he misses by an inch every time lol.He is just cursed...Misses that small are more about luck than his ability.

It's the curse of Liverpool...

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Post by Art Morte Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:19 am

He missed a couple of great chances yesterday, but I'm sure he'll start taking those soon enough.
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Post by McAgger Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:28 am

tbh I have to agree with this thread, his finishing has been horrid in the past two years. He creates some beautiful chances out of nothing and then goes on and messes it up.
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Post by lszanto Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:39 am

Giroud's miss yesterday was far worse than any of Suarez's. Robinho is also a horrid finisher if you consider him a striker.
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Post by julias Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:44 am

Yea Giroud miss was horrible but the point of my thread was that Suarez does this on a regular basis and by that I mean miss 4-5 goal scoring opportunities in a game.

This I find strange because he scored so many goals in Holland it was ridiculous, that and the fact that almost every other aspect of his game is brilliant
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Post by lszanto Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:54 am

julias wrote:Yea Giroud miss was horrible but the point of my thread was that Suarez does this on a regular basis and by that I mean miss 4-5 goal scoring opportunities in a game.

This I find strange because he scored so many goals in Holland it was ridiculous, that and the fact that almost every other aspect of his game is brilliant

Fair call, I don't usually watch liverpool but did so to watch Lukaku. If he does it on a regular basis then it's pretty bad, he's quality for the NT aswell.
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Post by The Messiah Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:05 am

Since when is Suarez considered a top striker...?
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Post by Vibe Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:36 am

Liverpool needs to sign a new right winger(Johnson FFS) and move Suarez left...

Reina
Johnson - Skrtel - Agger - Enrique
Leiva - Allen
Johnson - Gerrard - Suarez
Carroll

Or sign another right winger and go 4-4-2...

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Johnson - Skrtel - Agger - Enrique
Afellay - Lucas - Gerrard - Johnson
Carroll - Suarez
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Post by lszanto Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:40 am

Vibe wrote:Liverpool needs to sign a new right winger(Johnson FFS) and move Suarez left...

Reina
Johnson - Skrtel - Agger - Enrique
Leiva - Allen
Johnson - Gerrard - Suarez
Carroll

A new striker might come in handy too...

They'll be playing 433 majority of the time assuming Rodgers stays around.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:47 am

Kick wrote:How can you be a top striker if you can't finish?

Same logic that applied to Torres applies to Suarez.

Exactly why i didn't name him in that top 10 strikers thread, he's a simply awful finisher.

Although Liverpool use him incorrectly, he would be GOAT on the left side of our 4-3-3 :coffee:

He's a very good player but nowhere near the level people hype him to be.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:56 am

He has a free role, not neccesarily expected to be the primary goalscorer with Borinis arrival.

I don't really consider him a striker.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:13 pm

Also the luck thing is complete and utter f*cking BS.

If he did it over a few games then sure, but it's been like this since he signed for Liverpool.

It's not luck it's just bad finishing and that goes for Liverpool as a team, it's not luck when you consistently miss over a season it's poor finishing.


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Post by Babun Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:20 pm

Top striker and worst finishing are mutually exclusive :coffee: A player can't be both eco smile
Carry on...
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Post by Rev Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:56 pm

I think what the OP meant to say is that for all his attacking talent, his finishing is not up to standards and could be improved.

Actually, isn't his role to create ? You've got players like Borini and Carrol to finish those chances created by him.

It's all up to the coach to judge his players strengths and weaknesses and tweak the team according to it.
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Post by Nishankly Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:13 pm

He isnt exactly an ST. He plays just behind the striker, He does his job well there. Sadly we dont have a good enough ST, So we rely on Suarez a bit too much. Actually he is "Liverpool's attack".

Even if he is one of the worst finishers, still managed 17 goals last season. He'll get more this season..

Scores or not, I just love watching him play.
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Post by Forza Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:24 pm

This...

Babun wrote:Top striker and worst finishing are mutually exclusive :coffee: A player can't be both eco smile


Carry on...
But then this...
Rev wrote:I think what the OP meant to say is that for all his attacking talent, his finishing is not up to standards and could be improved.

And then this...

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Post by Emaharg Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:00 pm

He is more of a support striker a bit like Arshavin for Russia.
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Post by donttreadonred Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:09 pm

I do agree that we have misused him in the past. He is much better playing in a free/wide role where he receives the ball in space and can run at the goal. Too often, he receives the ball just outside the 18-yard box and is forced to spin and turn to create his own shot, resulting in a disoriented strike. Against West Brom, he failed to take a several good chances (predominantly in the first half), putting a few too close to Foster, and sending a toe-poke just wide and failing to head down a great cross.

This season, I believe we may see very different demands of Suarez. He may still be listed as a CF on the team sheet, but under Rodgers, he is likely to be given a more free role to drift wide and interchange with the other forwards. I wouldn't go so far to say that he will be used as a false9, but I think he will be given some of the distributive duties of that role. Liverpool's attack is most dangerous when Suarez is dribbling in the box, with support from Borini, Gerrard and whoever else. The goals against Gomel in the last Europa League fixture are a great example of what I'm describing. This is also why I hate having downing in the other forward slot, opposite Borini. He simply doesn't look to attack the goal. Even on the right side, he wants to go around the outside of a defender and swing in a cross. This is bad news if he's trying to use his right foot to cross, as it is apparently a mal-formed stump, completely incapable of controlling a football.

To be honest, the perfect foils for Suarez are Borini and another forward with a similar nose for the goal. From what I've heard and seen, Assaibi may well be that other forward. He's apparently a very good dribbler and loves to beat defenders and take a pop on goal. I can see Rodgers sending out this lineup once Assaibi has proven his fitness: Asaibi - Suarez - Borini in a flat/interchanging front-three.

I admit that I am consistently confused by Suarez's finishing at club level. He has proven that he is capable of clinical finishing in the Eredivisie and the International level. However, he often fails to show it in the Premier League. He has shown glimpses of his ability every now and then. This goal is a prime example of what he CAN do:


Unfortunately, these moments have been too few and far between for Liverpool supporters. Perhaps the movement of Borini and another wide forward (Assaibi?) making incisive runs will be enough to open spaces in the defense for Suarez to replicate his performances for Ajax and Uruguay. I'm still optimistic about this team and their ability to achieve results, in spite of yesterday's pitiful performance. I don't think that was the style we are attempting to implement, and certainly not the defensive performance we all expected. There were many elements of yesterday's match that wreaked of last year's style and insecurity, instead of the calmness and confidence that is integral to good, possession football. Personally, I'm trying to forget about it and look forward to the next fixture.
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Post by Dnmac4 Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:38 pm

julias wrote:How are Liverpool going to get back into CL spots with this guy missing 7 good chances all the time lol. Some of his misses are laughable, I mean some of them are poor at any level of football.

I am shocked because I see this so often from him and he scored bucket loads in Holland (Iknow Dutch football but still).

WTF lol

It's funny you wrote this thread as I was going to write a similar one last year. IT seems that when people judge his play alone and not his attitude or sendings off or whatever else he is thought of as world class.

In fact out of all the transfers Pool made people leave him out of every conversation about the transfers not living up to there price tag.

The fact is, he too has been very dissapointing and then add the bad behavior on top of it and he's really been something of an enigma.

I mean Andy Carroll gets ten times the abuse that Suarez does and don't get me wrong Suarez has been the beter player but a lot of his stats came in the domestic Cup competitions and not in the games.

I think the OP is right, he has been dissapointing up until now and for some reason people just refuse to say so.
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