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Post by Eskimo Splif Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:45 pm

I always try to make a case for Ronaldo because I feel sorry for him, in a different era he could have been the best in the world but it's obvious that Messi is much better.

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:27 pm

Ronaldo's beating it at the moment.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:41 pm

@El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:Ronaldo's beating it at the moment.
Beating a injured player? Quite an achievement.
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:46 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:Ronaldo's beating it at the moment.
Beating a injured player? Quite an achievement.
he wasn't injured til yesterday

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Post by Harmonica Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:53 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:Ronaldo's beating it at the moment.
Beating a injured player? Quite an achievement.
he wasn't injured til yesterday

Several times.
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Post by RonaldoGreatestEverRM Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:08 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@Valkyrja wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Beating a injured player? Quite an achievement.
he wasn't injured til yesterday

Several times.

messi has played one lesser game this far https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

RONALDO: 24 GOALS
MESSI: 14 GOALS
its not even close, stop with the excuses.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:47 pm

@RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@Valkyrja wrote:he wasn't injured til yesterday

Several times.
messi has played one lesser game this far https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

RONALDO: 24 GOALS
MESSI: 14 GOALS
its not even close, stop with the excuses.
Obviously playing without full fitness.

Not just 1 statistic, but over 200.


La Liga 13-14

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CL 13-14

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And Messi has done this being unfit or injured almost the whole season. He plays in different level.
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Post by Gotverenler Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:53 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:Ronaldo's beating it at the moment.
Beating a injured player? Quite an achievement.
he wasn't injured til yesterday

He got injured 3 times this season. before injury Messi was top scorer of La liga with 8 goals, ronaldo only had 3 or 4. then injury happened and he missed 2 games, then he didnt score anymore

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Post by Valkyrja Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:28 pm

The difference is too big to put it down to injury ffs
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Post by Gotverenler Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:00 pm

For this season difference is 10 goals. Messi missed 4 games, and subbed off early in 2 games. So its 6 games in total. 10 goals in 6 games is normal for fit Messi.

also he didnt score in next 4 games after injury. (physical problem and mind problem). In total injury stopped messi from scoring in 10 games. I'm sure fit Messi would score 15 goals in 10 games and would have more goals than CR now


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Post by Donuts Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:24 pm

If were comparing based on the month of October, yeah sure Ronaldo did better
if we compare overall no contest. Messi
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Post by RonaldoGreatestEverRM Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:03 pm

@Gotverenler wrote:For this season difference is 10 goals. Messi missed 4 games, and subbed off early in 2 games. So its 6 games in total. 10 goals in 6 games is normal for fit Messi.

also he didnt score in next 4 games after injury. (physical problem and mind problem).  In total injury stopped messi from scoring in 10 games. I'm sure fit Messi would score 15 goals in 10 games and would have more goals than CR now

http://messivsronaldo.net/

Mesi 16 apps=14 goals
Ronaldo 17 apps=24 goals
stop
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Post by RonaldoGreatestEverRM Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:04 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Several times.
messi has played one lesser game this far https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

RONALDO: 24 GOALS
MESSI: 14 GOALS
its not even close, stop with the excuses.
Obviously playing without full fitness.

Not just 1 statistic, but over 200.


La Liga 13-14

Ronaldo vs Messi - Page 7 I2qb9f

CL 13-14

Ronaldo vs Messi - Page 7 2nak39d

And Messi has done this being unfit or injured almost the whole season. He plays in different level.
What is this? Some new arbitrary made up stat to suit your agenda?
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:14 pm

You guys are arguing over useless stuff Laughing 

The hub section is there if you guys bored.
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Post by harhar11 Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:05 pm

@RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:
@Gotverenler wrote:For this season difference is 10 goals. Messi missed 4 games, and subbed off early in 2 games. So its 6 games in total. 10 goals in 6 games is normal for fit Messi.

also he didnt score in next 4 games after injury. (physical problem and mind problem).  In total injury stopped messi from scoring in 10 games. I'm sure fit Messi would score 15 goals in 10 games and would have more goals than CR now

http://messivsronaldo.net/

Mesi 16 apps=14 goals
Ronaldo 17 apps=24 goals
stop
that's good and all, but what about minutes?

oh and if you could not see that Messi was still not fit after he returned from injury than you need glasses. Everyone, and I mean everyone, were talking about crisis because he hadn't been able to hit top form after his injury. Like they said, before the injury, Messi was the topscorer in La Liga and afterwards he has been fighting to get back to top form..

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Post by Khaled Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:12 pm

Yes, playing 21mins, 40 mins, 29 mins and than getting injured = each count as a full match Laughing

Messi didn't play 16 games, he was subbed off 3 times before half-time, subbed on once in the last 15 mins and missed 3 full games, due to injuries. Playing after injuries unfit (you can't play at 100% after being injured for 2-3 weeks)!

Messi 2013-14
Games: 16 (only 1165 minutes)
Goals: 14
Assists: 4


Messi 2012-13 (when he was fit)
1st half of the season: 35 goals, 7 assists in 26 games with Barcelona.

You don't compare an unfit/injured Messi with a fit player Laughing
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Post by RonaldoGreatestEverRM Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:54 pm

The Minutes accumulate to Ronaldo having played about 4-5 more matches... leading scorer, yeah, that wasn't because of him, but due to the small sample size of like 4 games, and Ronaldo being scoreless in the first 2, which never happened since.

Every time he played on the pitch, before he hurt/injured himself, I saw a fit Messi, injured/hurt players dont go selfish mode firing off shots like messi did, just a bad phase he suffered/is suffering.
No, saying that had Messi played the same amount of mines he'd score more goals than ronaldo so far, is an absurd claim that cant be proven, which is what I responded on.
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Post by Khaled Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:44 am

@RonaldoGreatestEverRM wrote:The Minutes accumulate to Ronaldo having played about 4-5 more matches... leading scorer, yeah, that wasn't because of him, but due to the small sample size of like 4 games, and Ronaldo being scoreless in the first 2, which never happened since.

Every time he played on the pitch, before he hurt/injured himself, I saw a fit Messi, injured/hurt players dont go selfish mode firing off shots like messi did, just a bad phase he suffered/is suffering.
No, saying that had Messi played the same amount of mines he'd score more goals than ronaldo so far, is an absurd claim that cant be proven, which is what I responded on.
Messi scored 6 goals in 3 UCL games this season!
CR 8 in 4!

same average

In LIGA Messi missed 2 games and got injured twice playing just 21 and 29 minutes vs Almeria and Betis and got subbed on once vs Osasuna (played only 15 mins).
Not playing consistently and getting injured 3 times effects player's performance. You can't play at 100% after coming from injury lol

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Messi scored 91 goals last year and broke all sorts of records when he was and you're having doubts Laughing
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Post by Onyx Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:59 pm

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Post by Donuts Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:05 pm

Total Games for Ronaldo 540
Total Goals for Ronaldo 349
.64 goals per game

Total Games for Messi 395
Total Goals for Messi 327
.83 goals per game


Total Games for Ronaldo international 109
Total Goals for Portugal 47
0.43 goals per game


Total Games for Messi international 83
Total Goals for Argetina 37
0.45 goals per game


The only stat Ronaldo comes close to in Messi is scoring and even then he loses out on that..
lets not even get to assists.

mind you stats are not even the whole story but it sure as hell is the only thing that could convince people Ronaldo is better.
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Post by DuringTheWar Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:03 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo vs Messi - Page 7 ZyRwNEc
so Ronaldo has over twice the better free kick numbers but some people still claim messi is better at free kicks
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Post by Onyx Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:43 pm

Ronaldo's been better at free kicks longer than Messi has. It was just a few years ago Messi started becoming good at them. Not sure about how did for Argentina, however it's probably a similar case.

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Post by jibers Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:46 pm

Why is there an argument. Any smart person can see that Messi is better than Ronaldo. Still don't understand how people still argue about this chit.
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Post by harhar11 Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:30 pm

@DuringTheWar wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo vs Messi - Page 7 ZyRwNEc
so Ronaldo has over twice the better free kick numbers but some people still claim messi is better at free kicks
I do belive that Messi became our main freekick taker around 2011, but before that, it was Xavi, Alves, Marquez etc.

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Post by CBarca Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:23 am

@jibers wrote:Why is there an argument. Any smart person can see that Messi is better than Ronaldo. Still don't understand how people still argue about this chit.

Because Ronaldo is more complete!!1111
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