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Post by futbol_bill Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:42 pm

I realize this is likely an old topic, but I couldn't find a thread on it.

There are several recent quotes from Ronaldo saying he believes he is the best (over Messi) no doubt leading up to Balon de Oro (the annual publicity award!). What is the general consensus on this, who is the better player (not who should win Balon de Oro)?

I suspect there will be lots of pro Messi Barca views while there will be a lot of pro Ronaldo Madrid views.

My own personal view (and remember I am a life long Madridista (and my lifetime is at least double most of you)) is when one takes into consideration team play, team accomplishments (it is a team game after all and individual accomplishments / awards mean nothing if the team doesn't reach any accomplishments), it is Messi who is the better player.

They are no doubt the best players by a fairly large margin of this generation of players, but Ronaldo's selfish personal pursuit of individual accomplishments puts him a distance second not only for this past season (i.e Balon de Oro) but overall. There have been a couple of years where I do believe Ronaldo was more deserving of that individual award, but if you look at team accomplishments (not just Barca or Madrid but Argentina and Portugal), Messi stands out. You can also see this when watching their play / interaction with teammates both offensively and defensively (actually the mere mention of defense and Ronaldo in the same sentence is kind of weird).

I do find faults with Messi as well for instance I do not agree that he deserved the player of tournament in last WC (I would have taken Robben or Neuer before him), nor do I particularly like him (given he plays for 2 teams that I don't particularly favor), but you have to objectively look at these things and I feel without doubt that Messi is the best.

In 10 years time, Messi will be included with the best all time legends. I'm not so sure Ronaldo (even with all his goals) will be included in that list, particularly when one recognizes the changes in today's game vs the games from 10, 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years ago.
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Post by Casciavit Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:51 pm

Messi and it's not even close.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:55 pm

Ronaldo and its not even close
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Post by Cruijf Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:27 pm

Casciavit wrote:Messi and it's not even close.


Not sure how anyone can dispute this.
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Post by Bankz Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:35 pm

Is it even legal to compare them anymore?
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Post by LeVersacci Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:49 pm

Messi lol

Can't wait till Fraudiano leaves Madrid
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:53 pm

Messi is better, but Cristiano is also an all time great. His bad luck if playing in the same period with a top 5 footballer.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:14 pm

Both are more or less on the same level. Messi edges it very slightly

Prefer Ronaldo though

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Post by Freeza Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:21 pm

Ronaldo isn't even the best player in Madrid
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Post by Bankz Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:32 pm

RealGunner wrote:Both are more or less on the same level. Messi edges it very slightly

Prefer Ronaldo though

Wow, some world class trolling u got there.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:36 pm

Having an opinion is trolling? scratch
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Post by Freeza Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:38 pm

RealGunner wrote:Having an opinion is trolling? scratch


No, but it's obviously wrong.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:48 pm

RealGunner wrote:Both are more or less on the same level. Messi edges it very slightly

Prefer Ronaldo though


Laughing RG you used to be Messi fanboy what happened.

Don't let stat padding fool you brah.
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Post by M99 Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:52 pm

I will say this. It's clearly Messi for me but the gap is not as wide as most people here think it is.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:55 pm

Of course it isn't India to Los Angeles, but it's not as tight as RG thinks it is. Laughing
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Post by Bankz Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:57 pm

Well, the gap is actually wider than people think it is.
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Post by Freeza Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:58 pm

Bankz wrote:Well, the gap is actually wider than people think it is.


We need to go even wider imo.
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:21 am

I will always believe ronaldo is a better player then he lets himself to be. His ego is his greatest downfall. Messi is one of the greatest so its not a comparison.

but CR could be so much more then he is. And in the first half of the CL winning season, he was very, very good at not just scoring, he was passing, assisting, and even dribbling.

His personality and ego just lets him down so much. its such a waste in a sense
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Post by Clutch Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:09 am

Besides scoring a bunch of goals and playing in the 2 biggest teams in the world, what do messi and Ronaldo really have in common playing wise?

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Post by McAgger Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:01 am

I can't tell if people are being sarcastic here?

Messi is the GOAT. He doesn't need to prove shit anymore.

CR isn't even a better all around footballer than Suarez or Dishmar. He's at that level of course, but he isn't even undisputed second best let alone being compared to Messi.
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Post by Claudio84 Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:56 am

Messi without a doubt, although to be consider one of the greatest of all times he has to perform better with Argentina, and i mean display the same level he does with Barcelona.

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Post by The Franchise Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:05 pm

This is exactly why Cristiano is over-rated..or certainly not underrated like that thread suggested a while back.

Comparing him to Messi Laughing

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Post by Myesyats Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:30 pm

It has never been close

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Post by Bankz Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:48 pm

At this point CR isn't even the 3rd best player in the world.
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Post by Lucifer Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:38 pm

Stas- ronaldo
Legacy- messi hmm

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