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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:30 pm

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Now, you 'd take Cazorla over Borja Very Happy What about Kaka? Is Inter going to get him for the promised 30 millions € or not? Very Happy

It's a tough one, but yeah i would. kaka can f**k off

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Post by Zees Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:34 pm

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Now, you 'd take Cazorla over Borja Very Happy What about Kaka? Is Inter going to get him for the promised 30 millions € or not? Very Happy

It's a tough one, but yeah i would. kaka can f**k off
But how much would they cost and would that improve our midfield?.
Kaka in form own both of them imo Shocked
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:47 pm

That's the problem people have too often imo, they only look at individual talent.

I look at each player skillsets, and eventhough in form kaka can be great, I think Cazorla would be more valuable, specially against the barca threat, and even in general, there is no risk factor to him, he is great and certainly hard working that kaka.
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Post by Babun Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:49 pm

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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
Now, you 'd take Cazorla over Borja Very Happy What about Kaka? Is Inter going to get him for the promised 30 millions € or not? Very Happy

It's a tough one, but yeah i would. kaka can f**k off
But how much would they cost and would that improve our midfield?.
Kaka in form own both of them imo Shocked
Cazorla is your typical Spanish midfielder, a possession whore who can keep the ball and pass Very Happy


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Post by Zees Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:01 pm

Do we really need to buy more midfielders? What would Cazorla give to the midfield that sahin,ozil etc cant?.Where would he play?. He costs too much to be benched imo and he is like 26? most of our midfielders are u23
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:05 pm

How do we have kaka on the bench, yet we say other players are too good for the bench? confused

he definitely would bring something kaka, ozil and sahin dont. The ability to be such a great possession keeper, while being a fantastic playmaker, being great in between the lines and being able to play Deep as a CM (ACM) and as high as a AM, and even on the wings.

very rare breed of player
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Post by Onyx Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:26 pm

I'd certainly take players like Javi Martinez, Borja, Parejo or Santi but there's just no space in our midfield. However I would swap them for Lass, Gago, Khedira, Granero, Kaka etc but it's unlikely.

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Post by Zees Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:26 pm

Kaka has been injured?he wasnt benched in 2009-10 lol. And dont we have playmakers?
do we need a possession whore?We have Ronaldo and Di Maria Rolling Eyes
i get that he is a player with breer range of talents but where would he play?
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Post by Onyx Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:28 pm

We don't really need to be buying players similar to Ronaldo or Di Maria.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:34 pm

ZsG7 wrote:Kaka has been injured?he wasnt benched in 2009-10 lol. And dont we have playmakers?
do we need a possession whore?We have Ronaldo and Di Maria Rolling Eyes
i get that he is a player with breer range of talents but where would he play?

Do you think the way Iniesta or Silva keep on the possession is similar to Di maris and ronaldo? those guys are genuine playmakers, they dont run around selfishly looking for a personal action. Their football is more horizontal than it is vertical and they definitely get people involved. Besides they love to dribble in between the lines and in small spaces, something Ronaldo or Di Maria dont do. you never have enough playmakers, that's my opinion. we are willing to keep kaka, yet Cazorla wouldnt slot in? i disagree, if i could make a play to sign him at the expense of kaka i would.
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Post by Onyx Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:35 pm

This would be a dream midfield:

Mid:

Javi Martinez
Thiago
Borja
Parejo
Santi
Silva

:coffee:

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Post by Zees Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:01 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
ZsG7 wrote:Kaka has been injured?he wasnt benched in 2009-10 lol. And dont we have playmakers?
do we need a possession whore?We have Ronaldo and Di Maria Rolling Eyes
i get that he is a player with breer range of talents but where would he play?

Do you think the way Iniesta or Silva keep on the possession is similar to Di maris and ronaldo? those guys are genuine playmakers, they dont run around selfishly looking for a personal action. Their football is more horizontal than it is vertical and they definitely get people involved. Besides they love to dribble in between the lines and in small spaces, something Ronaldo or Di Maria dont do. you never have enough playmakers, that's my opinion. we are willing to keep kaka, yet Cazorla wouldnt slot in? i disagree, if i could make a play to sign him at the expense of kaka i would.
i really havent seen him play that much.saw like 5 matches.I rate kaka higher than him but thats my personal opninion
sure, i wouldnt mind having him,but im sure he wont get much playing time.How high do u rate kaka?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:06 pm

ZsG7 wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
ZsG7 wrote:Kaka has been injured?he wasnt benched in 2009-10 lol. And dont we have playmakers?
do we need a possession whore?We have Ronaldo and Di Maria Rolling Eyes
i get that he is a player with breer range of talents but where would he play?

Do you think the way Iniesta or Silva keep on the possession is similar to Di maris and ronaldo? those guys are genuine playmakers, they dont run around selfishly looking for a personal action. Their football is more horizontal than it is vertical and they definitely get people involved. Besides they love to dribble in between the lines and in small spaces, something Ronaldo or Di Maria dont do. you never have enough playmakers, that's my opinion. we are willing to keep kaka, yet Cazorla wouldnt slot in? i disagree, if i could make a play to sign him at the expense of kaka i would.
i really havent seen him play that much.saw like 5 matches.I rate kaka higher than him but thats my personal opninion
sure, i wouldnt mind having him,but im sure he wont get much playing time.How high do u rate kaka?

I rate kaka very highly as an individual, imo he is still very good but i still question his fitness, i dont think he is done having problems.

I just want something else for my madrid, not a greater individual, but a better player for us.

Cazorla would play just as much as Kaka would imo. he can play deep in a tridente very comfortably, can back up AM for Ozil, displace Di Maria off the wings, play in a 3 man attack as a winger/playmaker (what Silva does for the NT).
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Post by Zees Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:27 pm

is he better than Di Maria on the wings!? Shocked
ima watch some vids on him now
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:41 pm

The way they play is extremely different. the closest to Di Maria's style in spain is Jesus navas.

Cazorla is more similar to Silva.
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Post by Onyx Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:24 pm

One direct winger (Ronaldo) and then a playmaker type winger on the other wing seems a good idea. However With Di Maria being more direct I think he needs to score more goals next season if he starts every game.

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Post by Mr. Festim Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:06 am

Now with the singing of Varane and the potential deal with Coentrao things are getting kind of messy here.

We have 5 players who can play CB: Pepe, Ramos, Carvalho, Albiol, Varane
We have 4 players who can play RB/LB: Ramos, Arbeloa, Coentrao, Marcelo

Considering that we all wanted a defence like this:

Coentrao--------Pepe---------Ramos------------Marcelo

That means that Carvalho will be our sub for the two CB-s meaning that Varane will not even play a single game this year. That's just not good for his development.
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:11 am

Mr. Festim wrote:Now with the singing of Varane and the potential deal with Coentrao things are getting kind of messy here.

We have 5 players who can play CB: Pepe, Ramos, Carvalho, Albiol, Varane
We have 4 players who can play RB/LB: Ramos, Arbeloa, Coentrao, Marcelo

Considering that we all wanted a defence like this:

Coentrao--------Pepe---------Ramos------------Marcelo

That means that Carvalho will be our sub for the two CB-s meaning that Varane will not even play a single game this year. That's just not good for his development.

With the eminent sale of Lass, the signing of Varane seems alot more clear, he can fill in those minutes fine.

People forget he is as good in front of the defence line as he is at CB.

Because of his tactical awareness even at a young age and versatility he will get alot more playing time than most people will think.

Seeing if and when Lass leaves, our only true DM destroyers would be Pepe and Varane. Xabi is a DM but plays in a different manner, much like Gago. Khedira and Sahin are B2B players.


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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:13 am

The guy from the redcafe article stated that Varane didn't look as good as he did when playing CB.
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:17 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:The guy from the redcafe article stated that Varane didn't look as good as he did when playing CB.

In the destroyer role he is fine, going forward from that role and trying to play more upfield he does not look as good/comfortable.

He can play the Lass role fine though.

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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:47 am

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EarlyPrototype wrote:The guy from the redcafe article stated that Varane didn't look as good as he did when playing CB.

In the destroyer role he is fine, going forward from that role and trying to play more upfield he does not look as good/comfortable.

He can play the Lass role fine though.

Sorry I mean he said that he was not good at DM as he was at CB.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:49 am

Mendes is trying to get Falcao to become a Madrid player. He is starting to piss me off.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:51 am

dont think there is anything serious to it
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:00 am

Apparently Falcao himself on twitter that he would start negotiations with Perez if Perez was interested. Perez would just turn his phone off LOL.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:02 am

loool loving the spirit Very Happy, but yh i think he is a bit off target here. Aguero it will be, or if not, Neymar.
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Post by Guiltybystander Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:04 am

TVE just said that Neymar was bought by Madrid? Sad
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