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Post by GiacomelaJuventuseraprimo Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:48 am

does Conte plan on ensuring all the players are put in the starting xi? Lichtsteiner, Isla, Asamoah, Giovinco, Vidal, Quagliarella and Vucinic and potentially Jovetic are all transfers from within the past 2 summer mercato(s). Barzagli, Chiellini, Marchisio and Pirlo are all Juve-quality n easily starting xi material

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---------Barzagli-Chiellini---------
--------------Pirlo----------------
-Lichsteiner-Vidal-Marchisio-M Isla-
---Jovetic-Quagliarella-Giovinco----

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Post by Juveman17 Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:53 am

2? 2 defenders?

And he doesn't have to ensure a starting spot for anyone.
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Post by Cassius Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:56 am

Its this new thing called depth you see..

we will need quality players that can rotate with each other to progress in the league and in europe.

plus players will be leaving, proof in recent seasons with buying one player and selling or sodding him off a season or two after. examples Diego, Amauri, Melo, Elia..
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Post by juventrini Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:32 am

how the fack are we supposed to win anything if we have bare 11 quality players?
some ppl were hoping we have shit players for rotation? if so then ur on thewrong side of Turin..

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Post by GiacomelaJuventuseraprimo Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:54 am

juventrini wrote:how the fack are we supposed to win anything if we have bare 11 quality players?
some ppl were hoping we have shit players for rotation? if so then ur on thewrong side of Turin..

depth is great, but will it not create friction in the dressing room? I hate the Granata

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Post by Luca Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:05 am

GiacomelaJuventuseraprimo wrote:
juventrini wrote:how the fack are we supposed to win anything if we have bare 11 quality players?
some ppl were hoping we have shit players for rotation? if so then ur on thewrong side of Turin..

depth is great, but will it not create friction in the dressing room? I hate the Granata

Competition within the squad could really work to Juventus' advantage
If you aren't in form, you aren't locked into the starting 11.

Then there is the multiple competitions to consider, it will be difficult to give 100% every game when you're playing every 3 days (at times this will happen) and this is when rotation will make or break the team.

This is a great problem to have. I don't see players being castaway and not featuring at all (Elia/Krasic like). If that happens, then there will be some unhappy players. In the end, all players want to play.

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Post by Juventude Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:53 am

Look at any top champions league roster and all of their depth. It's almost like people forgot about the amount of depth we had before calciopoli. There are many reasons why we sucked before this season and a lack of depth was one of those reasons.
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Post by Juveman17 Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:55 am

Juventude wrote:Look at any top champions league roster and all of their depth. It's almost like people forgot about the amount of depth we had before calciopoli. There are many reasons why we sucked before this season and a lack of depth was one of those reasons.


We had Henry, Miccoli and Di Vaio on the bench in 2003. Our team used to be stacked more than Real Madrid is now.
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Post by donttreadonred Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:55 am

Luca wrote:
GiacomelaJuventuseraprimo wrote:
juventrini wrote:how the fack are we supposed to win anything if we have bare 11 quality players?
some ppl were hoping we have shit players for rotation? if so then ur on thewrong side of Turin..

depth is great, but will it not create friction in the dressing room? I hate the Granata

Competition within the squad could really work to Juventus' advantage
If you aren't in form, you aren't locked into the starting 11.

Then there is the multiple competitions to consider, it will be difficult to give 100% every game when you're playing every 3 days (at times this will happen) and this is when rotation will make or break the team.

This is a great problem to have. I don't see players being castaway and not featuring at all (Elia/Krasic like). If that happens, then there will be some unhappy players. In the end, all players want to play.
This.

If you ensure players a starting spot, the other players leave for opportunities. If it's open competition for spots, the best player starts. Everyone has an equal shot. Beat your competitors and you're in.

Also, as Juve are in more competitions this year, depth is ABSOLUTELY necessary for success. Backups will get chances. Buying like this only shows that Conte is serious about contending in the Champions League.
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Post by Lynx100 Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:06 am

juveman17 wrote:

We had Henry, Miccoli and Di Vaio on the bench in 2003. Our team used to be stacked more than Real Madrid is now.

Henry left in 1999
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Post by 7amood11 Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:21 am

It's called depth. We definitely won't be as fortunate as we were with injuries and we're going to play many more games and our players are going to have much less rest than they did last season. That's why we bought so many back-up players.
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Post by Juveman17 Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:39 pm

Lynx100 wrote:
juveman17 wrote:

We had Henry, Miccoli and Di Vaio on the bench in 2003. Our team used to be stacked more than Real Madrid is now.

Henry left in 1999

ah my bad Very Happy
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:06 pm

For the first time in a while we have true quality depth. Keeping players happy isn't too hard with a good wage and decent rotation. And some players can make the choice to play second fiddle to players like Pirlo or go elsewhere and compete for nothing but lower league places.
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Post by Juventude Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:26 pm

Here was our UCL squad pre-calciopoli:

GK:
Buffon
Abbiati

Defense:
Chiellini
Cannavaro
Kovac
Balzaretti
Zambrotta
Thuram
Zebina

Midfield:
Vieira
Emerson
Camoranesi
Pessotto (also defense)
Nedved
Blasi
Giannichedda

Forwards:
Del Piero
Trezeguet
Zlatan
Zalayeta
Mutu

That's a lot of depth. Especially in defense and attack.



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