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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 6:34 am



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Post by S Sat May 26, 2012 6:37 am

Woah,Mata with 20 assists ? :vagi:
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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Sat May 26, 2012 6:39 am

Hunter at No.3 with Schalke's Mid-field. Now that is CLASS

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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Sat May 26, 2012 6:43 am

RIbery has 26 Assists BTW (20 BL, 5 CL, 1 DFB, )

Even Muller in a not so great season & Kroos in his 1st Break-Out season have 20 & 18 Assists respectively.

So this is a factually WRONG thread.


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Post by EarlyPrototype Sat May 26, 2012 6:45 am

Espn says Messi has 23 assists in all competitions..........
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Post by Lex Sat May 26, 2012 6:47 am

I can always count on ESPN to make me laugh in the morning
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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 6:47 am

Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:RIbery has 26 Assists BTW (20 BL, 5 CL, 1 DFB, )

Even Muller in a not so great season & Kroos in his 1st Break-Out season have 20 & 18 Assists respectively.

So this is a factually WRONG thread. Either this should be corrected OR CLOSED down. I think the only purpose of this thread is to Highlight Messi through fake Data.

I followed Opta's method to count Assists..

According to transfermarket.de Messi has 37 assists.
But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.
- A shot on goal, (Saved by GK or on Cross bar) than some one finishes the ball in the goal after the rebound, they also count it as an assists, i didn't..

etc..
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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Sat May 26, 2012 6:51 am

Khaled wrote:]
Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:RIbery has 26 Assists BTW (20 BL, 5 CL, 1 DFB, )

Even Muller in a not so great season & Kroos in his 1st Break-Out season have 20 & 18 Assists respectively.

So this is a factually WRONG thread. Either this should be corrected OR CLOSED down. I think the only purpose of this thread is to Highlight Messi through fake Data.

I followed Opta's method to count Assists..

According to transfermarket.de Messi has 37 assists.
But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.
- A shot on goal, (Saved by GK or on Cross bar) than some one finishes the ball in the goal after the rebound, they also count it as an assists, i didn't..

etc..

Okay nothing much to add which is why I changed the Fake Data comment as there could be differences. This freaking Argentine Midget is an extra-ordinary player anyway,so no surprised to see him AT the top

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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 6:51 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:Espn says Messi has 23 assists in all competitions..........
Messi:
- Liga: 16 assists (via whoscored).
- UCL: 5 (via uefa,com)
- Copa: 4
- SpanishSuper: 2
- ClubsWorldCup: 1
- UefaSuper: 1

Total: 29.. U can check @2010MisterChip (Spanish).
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sat May 26, 2012 6:52 am

Khaled wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Espn says Messi has 23 assists in all competitions..........
Messi:
- Liga: 16 assists (via whoscored).
- UCL: 5 (via uefa,com)
- Copa: 4
- SpanishSuper: 2
- ClubsWorldCup: 1
- UefaSuper: 1

Total: 29.. U can check @2010MisterChip (Spanish).

I figured espn was wrong.
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Post by 7amood11 Sat May 26, 2012 6:57 am

Khaled wrote:

But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.

Then why aren't Busquets and Alves leading the assist table? :vagi:

Just kidding, but honestly, penalties won and rebounds shouldn't count as assists. And when you remove those two factors, I think it's Oezil with the highest number of assists, not sure though.
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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 7:01 am

Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:RIbery has 26 Assists BTW (20 BL, 5 CL, 1 DFB, )

Even Muller in a not so great season & Kroos in his 1st Break-Out season have 20 & 18 Assists respectively.

So this is a factually WRONG thread.

I checked all europe's top player's Stats, Kross has 15... Muller has 12 (not including penalties won etc..)

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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 7:04 am

7amood11 wrote:
Khaled wrote:

But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.

Then why aren't Busquets and Alves leading the assist table? :vagi:

Just kidding, but honestly, penalties won and rebounds shouldn't count as assists. And when you remove those two factors, I think it's Oezil with the highest number of assists, not sure though.

Actually Alves has 16 assists this season, he didn't win a single penalty this season and he rarely does...

Busquets won 2 penalties this season, including that one against ACMilan...



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Post by Harmonica Sat May 26, 2012 7:06 am

Khaled wrote:
According to transfermarket.de Messi has 37 assists.
But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.
- A shot on goal, (Saved by GK or on Cross bar) than some one finishes the ball in the goal after the rebound, they also count it as an assists, i didn't..

etc..
They only count own penalties won sometimes, so it's a "bug". Messi has 35 according to transfermarkt if you filter those out.
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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 7:08 am

7amood11 wrote:
Khaled wrote:

But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.

Then why aren't Busquets and Alves leading the assist table? :vagi:

Just kidding, but honestly, penalties won and rebounds shouldn't count as assists. And when you remove those two factors, I think it's Oezil with the highest number of assists, not sure though.

No... i think u miss understand me..
I didn't include penalties won, or rebounds etc..

This is why Messi has 29 (if i include them he has 37).
Ozil has 24 (30 including penalties won etc...)
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Muller has 12 (20 including penalties won etc..)
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Post by Blanco Sat May 26, 2012 7:08 am

That's not the proper way to count assists though. I think you should include the number of games as well to see who's got the better rate. Messi's fantastic, no doubt but when it comes to assists - Ozil's king.
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Post by Harmonica Sat May 26, 2012 7:09 am

There is no proper way to count assists, because it isn't defined. So everybody has different rules. I think more wider rules, better it reflects your input on goals.
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Post by Harmonica Sat May 26, 2012 7:10 am

Blanco wrote:That's not the proper way to count assists though. I think you should include the number of games as well to see who's got the better rate. Messi's fantastic, no doubt but when it comes to assists - Ozil's king.
Also assists/games is flawed, because more you play, less energy or form you have per game.


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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 7:11 am

jiopsi wrote:
Khaled wrote:
According to transfermarket.de Messi has 37 assists.
But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.
- A shot on goal, (Saved by GK or on Cross bar) than some one finishes the ball in the goal after the rebound, they also count it as an assists, i didn't..

etc..
They only count own penalties won sometimes, so it's a "bug". Messi has 35 according to transfermarkt if you filter those out.

I checked every single assist for Messi.. i'm pretty sure he has 29 Clear Assists.

I also checked different sources to be more accurate...

Anyway, there is different methods to count assists..
But, i followed the same criteria to count assists for every player.. So i think the standing is 99% accurate.
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Post by Harmonica Sat May 26, 2012 7:14 am

Khaled wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Khaled wrote:
According to transfermarket.de Messi has 37 assists.
But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.
- A shot on goal, (Saved by GK or on Cross bar) than some one finishes the ball in the goal after the rebound, they also count it as an assists, i didn't..

etc..
They only count own penalties won sometimes, so it's a "bug". Messi has 35 according to transfermarkt if you filter those out.

I checked every single assist for Messi.. i'm pretty sure he has 29 Clear Assists.

I also checked different sources to be more accurate...

Anyway, there is different methods to count assists..
But, i followed the same criteria to count assists for every player.. So i think the standing is 99% accurate.
I have chekced too, he has 36 with transfermarkt rules, they failed to give deflection from post in Pedro's goal against Rayo. Here you can see detailed list: http://www.king-football.com/messi/assists_list.php

Yeah it doesn't really matter which rules you use, if you do same for everybody.
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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 7:16 am

jiopsi wrote:
Blanco wrote:That's not the proper way to count assists though. I think you should include the number of games as well to see who's got the better rate. Messi's fantastic, no doubt but when it comes to assists - Ozil's king.
Also assists/games is flawed, because more you play, less energy or form you have per game.

So true.. When you have 6-7 days rest between 2 games, u can perform better than some one who played 3 games ( with 3 days rest between them)...

Anyway; Messi 29 assists in 60 official games (Ratio: 0.483)
Ozil 24 assists in 52 official games (Ratio: 0.461)

Its close, but still Messi is a little bit ahead.






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Post by che Sat May 26, 2012 7:18 am

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Post by Khaled Sat May 26, 2012 7:20 am

jiopsi wrote:
Khaled wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Khaled wrote:
According to transfermarket.de Messi has 37 assists.
But, they count:
- Penalties won as assists.
- A shot on goal, (Saved by GK or on Cross bar) than some one finishes the ball in the goal after the rebound, they also count it as an assists, i didn't..

etc..
They only count own penalties won sometimes, so it's a "bug". Messi has 35 according to transfermarkt if you filter those out.

I checked every single assist for Messi.. i'm pretty sure he has 29 Clear Assists.

I also checked different sources to be more accurate...

Anyway, there is different methods to count assists..
But, i followed the same criteria to count assists for every player.. So i think the standing is 99% accurate.
I have chekced too, he has 36 with transfermarkt rules, they failed to give deflection from post in Pedro's goal against Rayo. Here you can see detailed list: http://www.king-football.com/messi/assists_list.php

Yeah it doesn't really matter which rules you use, if you do same for everybody.

maybe... anyway, like you said there's different methods, but most important to follow same criteria for all players involved in the competition...
great site by the way.. great stats there and very organized...
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Post by Blanco Sat May 26, 2012 7:25 am

jiopsi wrote:
Blanco wrote:That's not the proper way to count assists though. I think you should include the number of games as well to see who's got the better rate. Messi's fantastic, no doubt but when it comes to assists - Ozil's king.
Also assists/games is flawed, because more you play, less energy or form you have per game.

Lol, you cant count that as an excuse. Its your effectiveness per game that matters not your energy.
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Post by Harmonica Sat May 26, 2012 7:28 am

Blanco wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Blanco wrote:That's not the proper way to count assists though. I think you should include the number of games as well to see who's got the better rate. Messi's fantastic, no doubt but when it comes to assists - Ozil's king.
Also assists/games is flawed, because more you play, less energy or form you have per game.
Lol, you cant count that as an excuse. Its your effectiveness per game that matters not your energy.
Yeah because it's the same to play two games in a week with same intensity than one. Rolling Eyes
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