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Post by CBarca Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:55 pm

Watching him this world cup, I keep thinking back to that scene in TDKR where that guy asks Bane "what... are you?"

What is this creature we call Hames? :bow:

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Post by barca 2011 Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:15 pm

James for president!
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Post by Gil Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:33 pm

Is he having a Sneijder esque fluke tournament or will he kick on from here? hmm
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:39 pm

Sneijder wasn`t as good as this guy, don't the stats fool you. Forlan,Villa and Muller were all better than him. This kid is legit
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Post by Gil Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:49 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Sneijder wasn`t as good as this guy, don't the stats fool you. Forlan,Villa and Muller were all better than him. This kid is legit


Lets not revise history now.
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Post by M99 Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:03 pm

Sneijder was amazing for Inter that season too.
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Post by Jonathan28 Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:21 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Sneijder wasn`t as good as this guy, don't the stats fool you. Forlan,Villa and Muller were all better than him. This kid is legit


What is this revisionist BS? Sneijder was awesome in 2010 mate, he fully deserved all the plaudits he received.
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:23 am

To think, we had practically signed this guy from Banfield... :facepalm: 
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Post by marottalad Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:04 am

:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:To think, we had practically signed this guy from Banfield... :facepalm: 

...... The Secco era
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Post by Zealous Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:48 pm

Zealous wrote:From what I've seen he looks great. Very intelligent with his decision making.


I'm such a beast talent scout ffs Proud
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:22 pm

Jonathan28 wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Sneijder wasn`t as good as this guy, don't the stats fool you. Forlan,Villa and Muller were all better than him. This kid is legit


What is this revisionist BS? Sneijder was awesome in 2010 mate, he fully deserved all the plaudits he received.


probably he talked only about WC. otherwise Sneijder in a normal world would have won the Balon D'or that year, I don't know how many players played a year as him in football history
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:29 pm

marottalad wrote:
:{Mr.Mustachio! wrote:To think, we had practically signed this guy from Banfield... :facepalm: 

...... The Secco era


Indeed Secco wanted James Rodriguez, he was taking James , Hazard and Naingolaan in 2010.

But Bettega rejected all 3 smoking
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:30 pm

Yeah Secco actually wanted him
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Post by Ganso Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:01 pm

James has become the most overrated player in the world.better than Sneijder in 2010 Laughing
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Post by McAgger Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:18 pm

Ganso wrote:James has become the most overrated player in the world.better than Sneijder in 2010 Laughing


Just talking about the world cup. Not the full season. And that statement holds true for the WC. Maybe not better per se, but definitely on par atm.
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Post by Curtinho Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:27 pm

Gil wrote:Is he having a Sneijder esque fluke tournament or will he kick on from here? hmm


Gil at his finest.  rofl 

Valkyrja wrote:Sneijder wasn`t as good as this guy, don't the stats fool you. Forlan,Villa and Muller were all better than him. This kid is legit

Sneijder was the best player at the 2010 WC for sure...including what he did leading up to the final he outplayed Forlan and Villa head to head, and if not for Robben choking away two golden opportunities he would have carried the Netherlands almost single-handedly to the Cup.

Robespierre wrote:probably he talked only about WC. otherwise Sneijder in a normal world  would have won the Balon D'or that year, I don't know how many players played a year as him in football history  

I thought he deserved the Ballon D'Or that year also, but it is what it is.

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Ganso wrote:James has become the most overrated player in the world.better than Sneijder in 2010 Laughing


Just talking about the world cup. Not the full season. And that statement holds true for the WC. Maybe not better per se, but definitely on par atm.


As probably the biggest Sneijder fan on this board I agree with this. Rodriguez has been as good as Sneijder was in 2010 up to this point, though we'll see if he can hold that level against the top teams now as Sneijder did.
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Post by Ganso Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:46 pm

I disagree, but it's debatable.If Colombia get koed friday then there is no discussion really.Sneijder took a meh dutch side to the final.

One interesting coincidence in this debate:Holland faced Brazil in the last quarter final, with Sneijder scoring the 2 goals.Let's see how James will do.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:08 pm

Ganso wrote:I disagree, but it's debatable.If Colombia get koed friday then there is no discussion really.Sneijder took a meh dutch side to the final.

One interesting coincidence in this debate:Holland faced Brazil in the last quarter final, with Sneijder scoring the 2 goals.Let's see how James will do.
Wasn't one of them a Melo owngoal?
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:17 pm

true, it was double by Sneijder.
I wonder how many players in WC history have knocked out Brazil scoring  a double hmm and after that incredible year also with the club . How can be underrated for that year ?

Anyway if Colombia knocks out the Brazil , James will win the Balon d'Or of WC who won Forlan in 2010 imo
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Post by McAgger Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:42 pm

Hames has been heavily involved 10 of Colombia's 11 goals in this world cup. The only goal he wasn't involved in was a penalty scored by Cuadrado against Japan when he was on the bench.

Can't say the same about Sneijder.
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Post by Ganso Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:50 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Ganso wrote:I disagree, but it's debatable.If Colombia get koed friday then there is no discussion really.Sneijder took a meh dutch side to the final.

One interesting coincidence in this debate:Holland faced Brazil in the last quarter final, with Sneijder scoring the 2 goals.Let's see how James will do.
Wasn't one of them a Melo owngoal?
Yes, but it was given to him lol I'm watching the highlights atm, we destroyed Holland in that game and lost the game in 2 set-pieces :facepalm:

Robespierre wrote:true, it was double by Sneijder.
I wonder how many players in WC history have knocked out Brazil scoring  a double hmm and after that incredible year also with the club . How can be underrated for that year ?

Anyway if Colombia knocks out the Brazil , James will win the Balon d'Or of WC who won Forlan in 2010 imo
we both  know what other player did something similar lol
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Post by FalcaoPunch Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:23 pm

It's seems like over hype but it's not.
Don't try and tell me by comparing him to Snejider that people actually believe he should be considered for a balon d'or like Sneidjer was.

He's just having a great tournament that no one can deny and he just happens to be the center of attention at the moment.
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Post by titosantill Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:37 am

i haven't really followed his career; so as an overall footballer i can't really judge...he has been amazing so far in this world cup, and warrants the hype and fits well as an amazing nos 10.....there is a BUT though, lol; as great as the world cup is, number one competition in the sport (and prolly in all sports alongside the Olympics), its tough to judge how a player will fare in a season of club football based on the world cup, which if u make the final four, is seven games....the world cup tests the best players for moments of magic or brilliance to lead their teams through tough moments no matter the obstacle...regular season football is more of consistency and will, in some cases, luck too, in champs league...rodriguez is linked to a bunch of top clubs, madrid for instance...the immediate problem is; he probably won't play the role he is playing at Colombia at madrid, thus he probably won't have as many touches of the ball; whilst he is Colombia's go-to guy, at a bigger club it will be about sharing the sugar...he is an intelligent passer so this may not be so problematic....but can he get comfortable with playing that role for 60 plus games a season should be the main question? people who have followed his career will be in a better position to inform the general public about whether he has always been consistent or if the mundial is just a scenario where the faith the team has put in him is what yields confidence...he looks a good player, but the main concern is level of consistency......
as far as the sneijder comparison....it seems people just love to compare for the sake of it; sneijder wasn't hyped until after the  world cup, and when the balon d'or gala was close...i don't think during the early stages of the 2010 tournament people (apart from if you're dutch) where going "oh sneijder is the best, he'll lead holland to glory". the talk of sneijder came after; during the season most of the plaudits where going to mourinho (sneijder got some praise in the chelsea game) and after when the balon d'or aka popularity contest voting was taking place, the talk of sneijder's world cup and previous season was raised.
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