Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
Ok, some of the things are getting out of hand here.
1. Raul whether anyone likes it or not was a large flop for Espana and our whole country considers it that way. DO NOT let his 44 goals out of 102 fool you. 92% of them were in very unimportant matches like friendlies, qualifiers and a few GS goals yet it never extended beyond that. He could NEVER replicate his club form onto for the NT. Service? In the damn Euro 2000 we had Valeron, Mendieta (the part where he is a flop is a joke), Fran, and Pep freaking Guardiola. In 2002 we had an extra edition in Baraja who did well. 2004? We had the injury prone but skilled Vicente, Xavi, and the same performers as mentioned. 2006? Squad was younger but the midfield play was superb, sadly, Raul flopped hard again.
See, it wasn't that he didn't receive service even in the time when our midfield was not working, it was that he missed a 1000 chances and was no where to be seen when we needed him. He disappeared, flopped you name it.
So the argument that he did not receive service is invalid. Speaking of all of you saying he would have thrived in the tiki taka, HELLO! Raul played many times in Aragones' system and even flopped harder! Which is why David Villa was chosen and he was 3 times the player was than Raul was for Espana NT in every possible way. Why isn't Telmo Zarra or Hierro mentioned instead of this guy?
Also, Raul's partner in crime Fernando Morientes was even better than him when given the chance.
As for the best player of Espana, Casillas as much as i love him, is not. Iniesta did not have nearly the amount of influence that Xavi did for us, while Villa is only our best striker of all time while Luis Suarez can only challenge Xavito for the title but for me and much of Espana, he is our jewel and best of all time.
1. Raul whether anyone likes it or not was a large flop for Espana and our whole country considers it that way. DO NOT let his 44 goals out of 102 fool you. 92% of them were in very unimportant matches like friendlies, qualifiers and a few GS goals yet it never extended beyond that. He could NEVER replicate his club form onto for the NT. Service? In the damn Euro 2000 we had Valeron, Mendieta (the part where he is a flop is a joke), Fran, and Pep freaking Guardiola. In 2002 we had an extra edition in Baraja who did well. 2004? We had the injury prone but skilled Vicente, Xavi, and the same performers as mentioned. 2006? Squad was younger but the midfield play was superb, sadly, Raul flopped hard again.
See, it wasn't that he didn't receive service even in the time when our midfield was not working, it was that he missed a 1000 chances and was no where to be seen when we needed him. He disappeared, flopped you name it.
So the argument that he did not receive service is invalid. Speaking of all of you saying he would have thrived in the tiki taka, HELLO! Raul played many times in Aragones' system and even flopped harder! Which is why David Villa was chosen and he was 3 times the player was than Raul was for Espana NT in every possible way. Why isn't Telmo Zarra or Hierro mentioned instead of this guy?
Also, Raul's partner in crime Fernando Morientes was even better than him when given the chance.
As for the best player of Espana, Casillas as much as i love him, is not. Iniesta did not have nearly the amount of influence that Xavi did for us, while Villa is only our best striker of all time while Luis Suarez can only challenge Xavito for the title but for me and much of Espana, he is our jewel and best of all time.
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
Lord Hades wrote:umm, if this is about the greatest spanish player of all time, shouldnt you guys evaluate both nt and club careers ?
so?
name a trophy xavi hasn't won
hint: it's a trick question
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
Intertoto Cup!!!
Victory is mine
Victory is mine
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
Xavi has'nt won the Intertoto cup but we have?
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
Is Scott Parker comfortably the best English player of all time?
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
Xavi hasnt got one of these either :dance:
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Tottenham have won Copa del Sol
whatever that is
whatever that is
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RealGunner wrote:Tottenham have won Copa del Sol
whatever that is
wikipedia says no.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_del_Sol
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wow his trophycase is seriously lacking.... or should I say "suffering"?
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
fatman123 wrote:RealGunner wrote:Tottenham have won Copa del Sol
whatever that is
wikipedia says no.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_del_Sol
oh, its called Costa Del Sol Tournament
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RealGunner wrote:fatman123 wrote:RealGunner wrote:Tottenham have won Copa del Sol
whatever that is
wikipedia says no.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_del_Sol
oh, its called Costa Del Sol Tournament
thats one big ass tophy
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Re: Is Xavi Comfortably the Best Spanish Player of All Time ?
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Intertoto Cup!!!
Victory is mine
damn...
i forgot the coveted emirates cup too...
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che wrote:BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Intertoto Cup!!!
Victory is mine
damn...
i forgot the coveted emirates cup too...
No trophy cabinet is truly complete without an Emirates cup...
Messi, Xavi and Pep must move to Arsenal immediately if they want to solidify their legacies
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