Why so much Pepe hate?
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Why so much Pepe hate?
People think that just because they see or hear about Pepe's bad antics or alleged thuggish behaviour, that this automatically makes him a bad defender. Strange, it seems to be mostly EPL fans who rarely watch him have it in their mind that Pepe is a substandard defender.
Why can't people separate on-pitch persona from actual ability? Pepe isn't a likeable guy, but he remains a World Class defender and the babysitter of the Real Madrid's defence. He is Madrid's best defender, though that might change in a year or 2 with the development of Varane.
I can't help but find it laughable how people who never watch Pepe write him off as a substandard defender seemingly because he tepped on someone's hand...
Why can't people separate on-pitch persona from actual ability? Pepe isn't a likeable guy, but he remains a World Class defender and the babysitter of the Real Madrid's defence. He is Madrid's best defender, though that might change in a year or 2 with the development of Varane.
I can't help but find it laughable how people who never watch Pepe write him off as a substandard defender seemingly because he tepped on someone's hand...
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pepe world class lol......
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Ganso wrote:pepe world class lol......
He is. He is Madrid's best defender and his recovery abilities are crucial to their play. I don't get how people got it in their mind that he's somehow substandard...
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1 Ramos is better than him 2 hes not world class.good-=/= world class.i can name at least 5 better cbs than him
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Travis_RM_91 wrote:People think that just because they see or hear about Pepe's bad antics or alleged thuggish behaviour, that this automatically makes him a bad defender. Strange, it seems to be mostly EPL fans who rarely watch him have it in their mind that Pepe is a substandard defender.
Why can't people separate on-pitch persona from actual ability? Pepe isn't a likeable guy, but he remains a World Class defender and the babysitter of the Real Madrid's defence. He is Madrid's best defender, though that might change in a year or 2 with the development of Varane.
I can't help but find it laughable how people who never watch Pepe write him off as a substandard defender seemingly because he tepped on someone's hand...
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El Pipita wrote:Travis_RM_91 wrote:People think that just because they see or hear about Pepe's bad antics or alleged thuggish behaviour, that this automatically makes him a bad defender. Strange, it seems to be mostly EPL fans who rarely watch him have it in their mind that Pepe is a substandard defender.
Why can't people separate on-pitch persona from actual ability? Pepe isn't a likeable guy, but he remains a World Class defender and the babysitter of the Real Madrid's defence. He is Madrid's best defender, though that might change in a year or 2 with the development of Varane.
I can't help but find it laughable how people who never watch Pepe write him off as a substandard defender seemingly because he tepped on someone's hand...
And how many more Ramos errors will Pepe mop up before the season's finished?
Why would someone who claims to be a Madrid fan join in with the bashing of one of our key players? Bashing that was whipped up by Barcelona and transmitted to England and the rest of the World via pro-Barcelona media? The word PLASTIC comes to mind.
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pepe is world class or at least border line world class. people often get influenced by his stupid antics and automatically categorise him . stupid impression formation n all..
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Lord Hades wrote:pepe is world class or at least border line world class. people often get influenced by his stupid antics and automatically categorise him . stupid impression formation n all..
Which is what I'm tryna say, but the plastics aren't havin it..
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Ganso wrote:1 Ramos is better than him 2 hes not world class.good-=/= world class.i can name at least 5 better cbs than him
On his form this season, Pepe is top 5 tho.
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Chiellini,Barzagli,Silva,Howedes,Ramos,Kompany,Nesta,Masch?
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Travis_RM_91 wrote:El Pipita wrote:Travis_RM_91 wrote:People think that just because they see or hear about Pepe's bad antics or alleged thuggish behaviour, that this automatically makes him a bad defender. Strange, it seems to be mostly EPL fans who rarely watch him have it in their mind that Pepe is a substandard defender.
Why can't people separate on-pitch persona from actual ability? Pepe isn't a likeable guy, but he remains a World Class defender and the babysitter of the Real Madrid's defence. He is Madrid's best defender, though that might change in a year or 2 with the development of Varane.
I can't help but find it laughable how people who never watch Pepe write him off as a substandard defender seemingly because he tepped on someone's hand...
And how many more Ramos errors will Pepe mop up before the season's finished?
Why would someone who claims to be a Madrid fan join in with the bashing of one of our key players? Bashing that was whipped up by Barcelona and transmitted to England and the rest of the World via pro-Barcelona media? The word PLASTIC comes to mind.
I'm not bashing anyone. i just think Pepe is not Madrid's best defender. i even consider Varane to be better than Pepe but that's just me.
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Ganso wrote:Chiellini,Barzagli,Silva,Howedes,Ramos,Kompany,Nesta,Masch?
Barzagli? Howedes (LOL) kompany after 1 good season? Nesta is a MAJOR great bu the guys like 36 and hardly plays.
Watching football highlights on youtube and reading goal.com clearly DOESNT make you knowledgeable....
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Pepe is better than Ramos........
Why would a Real Madrid fan who actually watches Real Madrid games make such a claim?
Ramos is in every way the key element of our defense.
He organizes the defense,most importantly the highline (which Pepe sometimes ignores and costs us goals) and furthermore has been beter than Pepe inddividually this season.
Newsflash, if you ignore the highline and stay 30 ft behind the play there's going to be errors to mop up..........
Why would a Real Madrid fan who actually watches Real Madrid games make such a claim?
Ramos is in every way the key element of our defense.
He organizes the defense,most importantly the highline (which Pepe sometimes ignores and costs us goals) and furthermore has been beter than Pepe inddividually this season.
Newsflash, if you ignore the highline and stay 30 ft behind the play there's going to be errors to mop up..........
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Ganso wrote:Chiellini,Barzagli,Silva,Howedes,Ramos,Kompany,Nesta,Masch?
chielleni isnt a cb this season right? thiago silva has made a lot of errors , isnt howedes like injured for some time now? how regular has nesta been ? dont get carried away by one good game.
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stopped right after you put "?" after BarzagliTravis_RM_91 wrote:Ganso wrote:Chiellini,Barzagli,Silva,Howedes,Ramos,Kompany,Nesta,Masch?
Barzagli? Howedes (LOL) kompany after 1 good season? Nesta is a MAJOR great bu the guys like 36 and hardly plays.
Watching football highlights on youtube and reading goal.com clearly DOESNT make you knowledgeable....
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chiellini is a CB,he only played a few games as LB.A lot of mistakes?the only one i can remember is vs arsenal.Nesta spent 2012 injured,he has been great.Lord Hades wrote:Ganso wrote:Chiellini,Barzagli,Silva,Howedes,Ramos,Kompany,Nesta,Masch?
chielleni isnt a cb this season right? thiago silva has made a lot of errors , isnt howedes like injured for some time now? how regular has nesta been ? dont get carried away by one good game.
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thiago silva has made only one mistake in the entire season ?
from my limited knowledge what about that error against juve ?
yes, nesta is great, but pepe has been a presence throughout the season
from my limited knowledge what about that error against juve ?
yes, nesta is great, but pepe has been a presence throughout the season
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Pepe, on his day, is better then ramos. The guy is born to play defense. His only huge flaw is mental.
He wins almost every 50/50 ball, great in the air, and has even improved his balance this season. He's fast, aggressive(albeit too much), great tacklet, athletic. What else can we ask of him besides the attitude change?
He wins almost every 50/50 ball, great in the air, and has even improved his balance this season. He's fast, aggressive(albeit too much), great tacklet, athletic. What else can we ask of him besides the attitude change?
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Ganso wrote:Chiellini,Barzagli,Silva,Howedes,Ramos,Kompany,Nesta,Masch?
Bar Silva, i have no reason to put any of them ahead of Pepe. He has been rock solid.
There is a consistency factor as well.
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People decide to hate on what he does wrong, which are for example some tackles, some decisions, his anger.
He does things people don't like to be honest, and he deserves to get hate for it, hed be a much better defender if he concentrated on fixing his negatives, if he is doing it but its not working then too bad.
Dont know why you would then go on to compare him to other defenders, without using proper arguments btw.
This is a please acknowledge pepe plea..
He does things people don't like to be honest, and he deserves to get hate for it, hed be a much better defender if he concentrated on fixing his negatives, if he is doing it but its not working then too bad.
Dont know why you would then go on to compare him to other defenders, without using proper arguments btw.
This is a please acknowledge pepe plea..
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People hate him because he is scum
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Giggity5313 wrote:Pepe, on his day, is better then ramos. The guy is born to play defense. His only huge flaw is mental.
He wins almost every 50/50 ball, great in the air, and has even improved his balance this season. He's fast, aggressive(albeit too much), great tacklet, athletic. What else can we ask of him besides the attitude change?
Learn some tactical sense.
According to your assessment Prime Vidic is the GOAT.
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Le Samourai wrote:Giggity5313 wrote:Pepe, on his day, is better then ramos. The guy is born to play defense. His only huge flaw is mental.
He wins almost every 50/50 ball, great in the air, and has even improved his balance this season. He's fast, aggressive(albeit too much), great tacklet, athletic. What else can we ask of him besides the attitude change?
Learn some tactical sense.
According to your assessment Prime Vidic is the GOAT.
Vidic doesn't even have half of pepe's athleticism.. not nearly as fast as well.
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Albiceleste wrote:People hate him because he is scum
This.. I do not like his attitude at all.
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