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Post by Potential Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:52 pm

So stop make it like they are invincible, Both have weaknesses that can be exposed and any quality team could defeat them!
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:54 pm

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Post by Adit Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:54 pm

Barca vs Madrid in 3 :mental:
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Post by LeVersacci Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:58 pm

Potential wrote:So stop make it like they are invincible, Both have weaknesses that can be exposed and any quality team could defeat them!
Thank you captain obvious. Your work here is done.
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:01 pm

FFS Potential.

I thought you were going to highlight each teams weakness and explain which teams had the best options to exploit thoses weaknesses.
I was expecting some real in-depth analyses.
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Post by Doc Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:01 pm

:vagi:

Not to make this thread go to waste but what are the weakness that can be exploited in Barcelona? Real Madrid is pretty simple to identify but I think some real thought may have to go into describing and outlining Barcelona's real weakness.


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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:02 pm

weaknesses. :vagi:
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Post by The Messiah Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:03 pm

He has a Strong Point, I can Understand for Barca because of thier recent dominace but I dont know what Madrid has done In recent years
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:05 pm

Idrisozet wrote:He has a Strong Point, I can Understand for Barca because of thier recent dominace but I dont know what Madrid has done In recent years

The floors yours.

Highlight the weaknesses you feel each team has and who are the best avaliable to exploit them.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:07 pm

Barcelona weakness is Arsenal, so since Arsenal are out of CL, they dont have a weakness any more. :coffee: eco smile
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Post by Doc Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:07 pm

Idrisozet wrote:He has a Strong Point, I can Understand for Barca because of thier recent dominace but I dont know what Madrid has done In recent years

That isn't the point he is trying to make (or if he is making a point period). He is saying Real nor Barsa are invincible and can be beaten. The question is what are both teams weaknesses and how can they be exploited.
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:08 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:Barcelona weakness is Arsenal, so since Arsenal are out of CL, they dont have a weakness any more. :coffee: eco smile

You lazy bum eco smile
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:09 pm

I think I speak on behalf of the entire forum when I say, thank you for such a thought provoking and analytical thread. You have shown us all the light and firmly put us on our place.

Your a credit to the human race.
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:10 pm

The Franchise wrote:I think I speak on behalf of the entire forum when I say, thank you for such a thought provoking and analytical thread. You have shown us all the light and firmly put us on our place.

Your a credit to the human race.

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Post by izzy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:11 pm

The Franchise wrote:I think I speak on behalf of the entire forum when I say, thank you for such a thought provoking and analytical thread. You have shown us all the light and firmly put us on our place.

Your a credit to the human race.

I think this thread has great potential. Granted the OP was meh, it does leave the floor open for a tactical debate.
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Post by kiranr Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:12 pm

Come on guys, you guys can just ask him and i am sure he will elaborate. No reason to be mean.


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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:12 pm

I think he is onto something :vagi:
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Post by The Messiah Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:15 pm

Doc wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:He has a Strong Point, I can Understand for Barca because of thier recent dominace but I dont know what Madrid has done In recent years

That isn't the point he is trying to make (or if he is making a point period). He is saying Real nor Barsa are invincible and can be beaten. The question is what are both teams weaknesses and how can they be exploited.


What I think he's Trying to say is that Real Madrid and Barca Feel they are invisible, its Obvious from how Real Madrid Fans invovle Madrid in a Thread that involves Barca and Bayern After The Poster Said Bayern and Barca are The best Team in The World.

Real Madrid has Many weakness that has Been exploited Numerus Time by Barca and I dont Need to explan what their weakness is, they are Not just as Good as people try to make Them Look

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Post by izzy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:17 pm

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Doc wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:He has a Strong Point, I can Understand for Barca because of thier recent dominace but I dont know what Madrid has done In recent years

That isn't the point he is trying to make (or if he is making a point period). He is saying Real nor Barsa are invincible and can be beaten. The question is what are both teams weaknesses and how can they be exploited.


What I think he's Trying to say is that Real Madrid and Barca Feel they are invisible, its Obvious from how Real Madrid Fans invovle Madrid in a Thread that involves Barca and Bayern After The Poster Said Bayern and Barca are The best Team in The World.

Real Madrid has Many weakness that has Been exploited Numerus Time by Barca and I dont Need to explan what their weakness is, they are Not just as Good as people try to make Them Look


Ok. You can leave the thread now.
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:19 pm

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Idrisozet wrote:He has a Strong Point, I can Understand for Barca because of thier recent dominace but I dont know what Madrid has done In recent years

That isn't the point he is trying to make (or if he is making a point period). He is saying Real nor Barsa are invincible and can be beaten. The question is what are both teams weaknesses and how can they be exploited.

What I think he's Trying to say is that Real Madrid and Barca Feel they are invisible, its Obvious from how Real Madrid Fans invovle Madrid in a Thread that involves Barca and Bayern After The Poster Said Bayern and Barca are The best Team in The World.

Real Madrid has Many weakness that has Been exploited Numerus Time by Barca and I dont Need to explan what their weakness is, they are Not just as Good as people try to make Them Look


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Post by Doc Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:22 pm

Idrisozet wrote:What I think he's Trying to say is that Real Madrid and Barca Feel they are invisible, its Obvious from how Real Madrid Fans invovle Madrid in a Thread that involves Barca and Bayern After The Poster Said Bayern and Barca are The best Team in The World.

Real Madrid has Many weakness that has Been exploited Numerus Time by Barca and I dont Need to explan what their weakness is, they are Not just as Good as people try to make Them Look


Sigh, the poster that said Bayern and Barca are the best teams in the world was you Idrisozet. You are talking about yourself.

As for the 2nd part, yes Barcelona has exploited Real Madrid's weaknesses but this isn't about Barcelona, this about other teams against those two. Could the others do what Barcelona has done to Real Madrid effectively? And what about Barcelona?
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Post by Zealous Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:25 pm

Madrid's weakness is that they are too nice. They let the other team have a fair shot at the game.

I think we have a better chance if we employ our thug rugby tactics.
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Post by Swanhends Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:27 pm

If they aren't careful, teams that are anti-football may take advantage of Madrids humility and respectfulness
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Post by izzy Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:27 pm

Madrid's weaknesses IMO stem from two postitions: The Midfield and the fullbacks.

The Fullbacks: Arbeloa is the current fullback and it's very obvious he is a defensive one. He does his job very solidly and rarely gets forward to support the attack which can make Madrid dependent on width to arrive from the left side. This is where Marcelo comes in. Loves to get forward, contributes heavely to the attacking side of the Madrid game but does leave spaces. A LOT OF SPACES. It's fair to say that if he comes up against a winger with pace, expect him to be given a very tough time.

The Midfield: Where to start? Let's link it with the fullback problem. Countless times that Marcelo gets forward, i've seen Xabi drop in-between Ramos and Pepe leaving the midfield so open it's unreal. Xabi's lack of pace ain't helping anyone and the fact that if you pressure him enough he can't really get into his rhythm which makes the whole Real team not operate as fluid as they can. Stopping Xabi from playing can massively hinder Madrid from playing their usual game and this is why I think Mou has asked Ozil to drop deeper at times to help Xabi with the midfield workload and make us less predictable in the center of the pitch.

Well, that's all i'm writing. Stop Xabi, expose the fullback unbalance and hopefully you'll get something from Madrid.

My two cents.
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Post by Lord Hades Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:30 pm

i think its more down to concentration. you see the frequent lapses in con when defending set pieces- we should be really good in them thanks to our height advantage

goals in the latter stages of the match , frequently failing to pick up incoming players...


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