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Post by rsinatra Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:26 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
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halamadrid2 wrote:does the guy think barcas wide men dont chase???? godness gracious

racism in Madrid???we have a bunch of black players lol

none of the teams want him anyways why are they still talking ffs

fair enough until the last line. what's what with none of the teams want him ? lol


why do they still talk when neither Barca/Madrid have made an approach

Guy talks as if there is a tug of war between Barca and Real with Neymar having the final say lol

lol sure no approach. not in the last transfer window obviously. neymar's pretty clear. barca's president said they are fine with waiting until 2014.

i guess we'll see in two years Wink

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Post by The Franchise Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:27 pm

He should come to Barca.

Wont be forced to cut his hair at least lol
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:30 pm

Puyol's reation upon reading Dani's post.

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Post by Pedram Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:31 pm

The Franchise wrote:He should come to Barca.

Wont be forced to cut his hair at least lol

But he'll be forced to drive a Audi instead of his own car. eco smile
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Post by Funkentelechy Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:33 pm

Imagine Nerman and Messi together

Messi dancing Ai se eu te pego after scoring :bow:
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Post by Albiceleste Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:35 pm

Nerman & Messi become a modern day Pele & Maradona :bow:

decades of domination :bow:

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:36 pm

Nerman cant be modern day Pele, he is a shitty athlete
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Post by Ganso Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:39 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
rsinatra wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:does the guy think barcas wide men dont chase???? godness gracious

racism in Madrid???we have a bunch of black players lol

none of the teams want him anyways why are they still talking ffs

fair enough until the last line. what's what with none of the teams want him ? lol


why do they still talk when neither Barca/Madrid have made an approach


Guy talks as if there is a tug of war between Barca and Real with Neymar having the final say lol
your posts get more stupid as time goes by :facepalm:
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Post by ronalessi Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:40 pm

Funkentelechy wrote:Imagine Nerman and Messi together

Messi dancing Ai se eu te pego after scoring :bow:

Nerman dancing to Ai se eu te pego



:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: Chaka Chaka
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:44 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Nerman cant be modern day Pele, he is a shitty athlete

Nick.

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Post by S32TABLANCA Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:49 pm

Messi is too fat to dance Ai se eu te pego :coffee:

What would actually happen is that he would discover what Villa did, that Messi doesnt pass Sad
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:03 pm

26 assists and counting lol.
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Post by rsinatra Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:27 am

The Franchise wrote:He should come to Barca.

Wont be forced to cut his hair at least lol

The good thing for Neymar at Barcelona will be that he will learn to be less of a superstar like C. Ronaldo, at least if Guardiola still is in charge, and he will become even more of a team player than he already is becoming at this moment. Now, 1,5 years ago I would be like: "no way, Neymar is a stupid, stubborn brat", but the way he developed his mentality since then is actually quite stunning. He was complaining and arguing and getting mad for not taking the penalty kick and everything just 1,5 year ago. I myself didn't believe that he would be able to become what he is now because of the way he was. Many people didn't. He was under heavy criticism.

Now he's another player. That shows how good he is to adapt to situations that will benefit him. He also learnt to come back and help the team, and when Ganso was out injured, he would often come back and be the playmaker (quite a good one), and that's how he led us to the Libertadores title. If you look at his two amazing goals from last Wednesday, you will see that there aren't too many useless flicks as there would be some time ago, just speed and talent, and that's why it worked; and I think that's because he's been criticized for it, especially when Messi doesn't do any of that. So, imagine him being next to Messi, one of his idols, and Xavi (perhaps), and Iniesta, etc.. I think Neymar might be able to absorb things in a better way than some people expect. I think it's the last thing he needs to learn: that flicks are pretty but most often unnecessary, and the "art football" is not about that. Many people watch Neymar sporadically and still believe he's a new Robinho, but that really isn't so. He's come a long way.

So, the question is, would Real Madrid also help him like that? Would Cristiano Ronaldo be willing to help him, or would he actually be fighting Neymar for the spotlight? Of course that such competition also is stimulating, but from what I've seen from CR's attitude and Neymar's, things might get awkward. And Real Madrid are famous for getting these superstars, super individuals, and keeping them that way. Besides, it's less likely than Mourinho will be there in 2 years than Guardiola at Barcelona, simply because of their history and meaning to the clubs, and also their philosophies.

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Mr Nick09 wrote:Nerman cant be modern day Pele, he is a shitty athlete

Nick.



Wait, Neymar is a shitty athlete? Lol. Just lol. Please elaborate.
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Post by Doc Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:47 am

Why not a club other than Real Madrid or Barcelona?
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Post by Zealous Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:48 am

rsinatra wrote:
The Franchise wrote:He should come to Barca.

Wont be forced to cut his hair at least lol

The good thing for Neymar at Barcelona will be that he will learn to be less of a superstar like C. Ronaldo, at least if Guardiola still is in charge, and he will become even more of a team player than he already is becoming at this moment. Now, 1,5 years ago I would be like: "no way, Neymar is a stupid, stubborn brat", but the way he developed his mentality since then is actually quite stunning. He was complaining and arguing and getting mad for not taking the penalty kick and everything just 1,5 year ago. I myself didn't believe that he would be able to become what he is now because of the way he was. Many people didn't. He was under heavy criticism.

Now he's another player. That shows how good he is to adapt to situations that will benefit him. He also learnt to come back and help the team, and when Ganso was out injured, he would often come back and be the playmaker (quite a good one), and that's how he led us to the Libertadores title. If you look at his two amazing goals from last Wednesday, you will see that there aren't too many useless flicks as there would be some time ago, just speed and talent, and that's why it worked; and I think that's because he's been criticized for it, especially when Messi doesn't do any of that. So, imagine him being next to Messi, one of his idols, and Xavi (perhaps), and Iniesta, etc.. I think Neymar might be able to absorb things in a better way than some people expect. I think it's the last thing he needs to learn: that flicks are pretty but most often unnecessary, and the "art football" is not about that. Many people watch Neymar sporadically and still believe he's a new Robinho, but that really isn't so. He's come a long way.

So, the question is, would Real Madrid also help him like that? Would Cristiano Ronaldo be willing to help him, or would he actually be fighting Neymar for the spotlight? Of course that such competition also is stimulating, but from what I've seen from CR's attitude and Neymar's, things might get awkward. And Real Madrid are famous for getting these superstars, super individuals, and keeping them that way. Besides, it's less likely than Mourinho will be there in 2 years than Guardiola at Barcelona, simply because of their history and meaning to the clubs, and also their philosophies.

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Mr Nick09 wrote:Nerman cant be modern day Pele, he is a shitty athlete

Nick.



Wait, Neymar is a shitty athlete? Lol. Just lol. Please elaborate.

WTF are you talking about?

Nerman dreams he had half Cristiano's dedication and work ethic lol

If anything playing with Cristiano and Marcelo would teach him a thing or two about how to be a professional with out being a school boy.

Barcelona have this image of allowing you to express yourself but it's just a façade. If you don't enter the main clique in that team you get ignored, any form of self expression is discouraged. You can't even drive the car you want to training.

At Madrid it's different. Things are serious on game day but elsewhere the club treats and expects you to act like an adult. Guys like Marcelo, Higuain, Benzema and now Varane have grown up/are growing up here and becoming model professionals.

If you want Nerman to join Barca out of personal preference then fair enough but the rational of your post makes no sense to me.

(p.s. there is no guarantee Pep is sticking around for the long run either.)
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Post by kiranr Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:12 am


Neymar is lucky to have wise people like Rincon advice him. Come to Barcelona if you dont want to learn rugby Neymar :coffee:
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Post by Zealous Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:20 am

Nerman can join the increasing list of players not from La Masia Barca ruin/break mentally.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:39 am

Neymar will also learn to carry Messi's bag and water, in the hope of one day becoming his n1 butler.

All those things you are talking about are just cliches that he will have to learn one way or another playing for a big side and disciplined managers. Top teams nowadays cant afford to have players not doing the defensive work, and even players like Ronaldo have learned that the hard way.

All those stupid tricks he does in Brazil are not going to work with European footballer anyway, so he will have to adapt anyway, and learn a simpler style. It's not like he will become aware of that just by going to barca.

The only reason which sound like anything reasonable is for him to absord from other great players. That's the only argument that makes sense.

As for him not being a great athlete, well, he is fast and agile but that's that. Not great physical strength, he is not a powerful athlete, look at the difference between Lucas and Neymar for example.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:41 am

Neymar, Messi, Cex, Iniesta, Thiago and Sanchez in one team


lol
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Post by Adit Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:53 am

They rode ibra the ferrari as a fiat due to messi.

Villa has been suffering compared to his past due to his change of role and has been rode as a fiat.

Sanches the mighty dribbler is being rode as a glorified No 9..

what are the odds neymar isnt going to be another water carrier for Messi ? No


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Post by Doc Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:06 pm

David Villa didn't do that bad in his first season with Barcelona you know. In fact, he showed (me) that he could adapt to suit the team before his own needs. Not like he wasn't cutting inside from the left before anyway...
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:10 pm

Neymar would fit well at barca tho, he is a natural left forward and a goalscorer. I dont think it can go much wrong, unless he doesnt live up to his own hype. He wont be the first to see the ball like he does at Santos, and he will have to step up his work rate by a lot to do the off the ball runs. 60M for him still looks ridiculous tho, but knowing barca, they will pay in installments for 10 years, and sell so many of his shirts in brazil that it wont matter.
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Post by rsinatra Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:54 pm

Zealous wrote:
rsinatra wrote:
The Franchise wrote:He should come to Barca.

Wont be forced to cut his hair at least lol

The good thing for Neymar at Barcelona will be that he will learn to be less of a superstar like C. Ronaldo, at least if Guardiola still is in charge, and he will become even more of a team player than he already is becoming at this moment. Now, 1,5 years ago I would be like: "no way, Neymar is a stupid, stubborn brat", but the way he developed his mentality since then is actually quite stunning. He was complaining and arguing and getting mad for not taking the penalty kick and everything just 1,5 year ago. I myself didn't believe that he would be able to become what he is now because of the way he was. Many people didn't. He was under heavy criticism.

Now he's another player. That shows how good he is to adapt to situations that will benefit him. He also learnt to come back and help the team, and when Ganso was out injured, he would often come back and be the playmaker (quite a good one), and that's how he led us to the Libertadores title. If you look at his two amazing goals from last Wednesday, you will see that there aren't too many useless flicks as there would be some time ago, just speed and talent, and that's why it worked; and I think that's because he's been criticized for it, especially when Messi doesn't do any of that. So, imagine him being next to Messi, one of his idols, and Xavi (perhaps), and Iniesta, etc.. I think Neymar might be able to absorb things in a better way than some people expect. I think it's the last thing he needs to learn: that flicks are pretty but most often unnecessary, and the "art football" is not about that. Many people watch Neymar sporadically and still believe he's a new Robinho, but that really isn't so. He's come a long way.

So, the question is, would Real Madrid also help him like that? Would Cristiano Ronaldo be willing to help him, or would he actually be fighting Neymar for the spotlight? Of course that such competition also is stimulating, but from what I've seen from CR's attitude and Neymar's, things might get awkward. And Real Madrid are famous for getting these superstars, super individuals, and keeping them that way. Besides, it's less likely than Mourinho will be there in 2 years than Guardiola at Barcelona, simply because of their history and meaning to the clubs, and also their philosophies.

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Mr Nick09 wrote:Nerman cant be modern day Pele, he is a shitty athlete

Nick.



Wait, Neymar is a shitty athlete? Lol. Just lol. Please elaborate.

WTF are you talking about?

Nerman dreams he had half Cristiano's dedication and work ethic lol

You're saying this based on what? You're Neymar doesn't dedicate himself as much as them based on what?

i won't comment on the rest of your post because you are clearly a RM fan, so, you're not neutral. I'm sure a any barca fan has a completely opposite opinion to yours.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:59 pm

Yep, I would.

Nyemar could easily fit into the Barca team.

The notion that he wouldnt be allowed freedom is utterly crazy. I mean, Cuenca and Tello are going ton dribbling sprees...yet, Neymar wouldnt? Dont understand that.

This "Messi water boy" line dont make sense either, he makes players around him better, not worse.

Neymar works hard and can pass too, he fits fine.

The only issue is, Pep might not be there by the time he gets here, if indeed he arrives.
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Post by rsinatra Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:04 pm

RealGunner wrote:Neymar, Messi, Cex, Iniesta, Thiago and Sanchez in one team


lol

well in two years you never know which of them will be there or will be doing well..
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Post by rsinatra Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:09 pm

The Franchise wrote:Yep, I would.

Nyemar could easily fit into the Barca team.

The notion that he wouldnt be allowed freedom is utterly crazy. I mean, Cuenca and Tello are going ton dribbling sprees...yet, Neymar wouldnt? Dont understand that.

This "Messi water boy" line dont make sense either, he makes players around him better, not worse.

Neymar works hard and can pass too, he fits fine.

The only issue is, Pep might not be there by the time he gets here, if indeed he arrives.

Exactly, good point about Cuenca and Tello. And Sanchez also tries some stuff here and then, so..

The thing is, Neymar is a star in Brazil, and now he's used to being The man for Santos. So I think that by "Messi's water boy" they simply mean that he won't be the main guy anymore, and that might have a negative effect on him. But I think that's something he would be willing to learn to deal with. And that's why I talked about him being great at adapting: with the right tutor, this ego thing can go away with no problems. It wouldn't be any different at Real Madrid, but I just believe that Barcelona has the better environment - and that's my own personal opinion thank you very much!
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