Why Elia should play

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Hes a great player, whos talent and skill can win us games. Why doesent conte play him?

juveman17 wrote:Hes a great player, whos talent and skill can win us games. Why doesent conte play him?

Pass the pipe.

The truth is...we would've easily won the Siena,Parma & Chievo games if Elia was playing because when Juve reach in the final 3rd...no ones seems to know what to do...
Vucinic doesn't know if he should pass or shoot
Matri is always heavily marked
Quags don't play,Pepe injured
Borriello is just a bad bad man
DEL PIERO IS KING but doesn't get any playing time

Cotes wrote:...
Vucinic doesn't know if he should pass or shoot
Borriello is just a bad bad man

I must admit, I really thought we would have seen him start to get back into the lineup by now.

If you are honest with yourself and are really paying attention you can see we are lost in attack . Build up is good out of the back but we hit that 35 yard mark its like we see a ghost. Everybody is relying on Pirlo to unlock the oppositions defense. Pirlo is a world class passer not a world class dribbler everyone knows this so they have an idea of how to solve the pirlo problem.So even if Elia( for example ) is not great at the defensive side I find it hard to believe that Conte or any other coach would be buying him or players like him for defense . Between our defense and our DM we have plenty of quality. We need the elias of the world to beat players make space and turn nothing situations into goals . How about this for an oxymoron undefeated loser.

Elia can like robinho .... But conte cant realize that!!!

This team needs some speed and creativity on the attacking end. I understand that Conte is a stubborn coach, many of the great managers are. However, he hasn't won anything as a manager and he needs to admit his mistakes and give Elia and Krasic a chance to breathe new life into this team.

salmano9 wrote:Elia can like robinho .... But conte cant realize that!!!

Elia is in no way, shape, or form as talented and useful as Robinho. Anyone who watched him for any time already realized the massive shortcomings in him.

An overachieving Bebe.

I should have said: elia can be our robinho
He has the speed and skills to..
U did not see him alot this season to judge.. But vs bologna he was a BEAST SUB

The lack of faith and trust in Conte here baffles me.

Elia in the Juve board has some image that he is garrincha through all his flash and speedy dribbles.

Let me break it down to you again.

Elia was a bench player in a mid-table club like Hamburg. Ask the biggest Netherlands fan here who is very very patient with his players. Who? Redoranje. He will tell you (along with me and others) than Elia is a headless chicken with 0 end product who only deceives others by his coerver dances on the ball.

Which is why Conte places more tactically adept players with more tangible end product ahead of him.

Go ahead and laugh and curse at me but you all did the same when I told this group that Giaccherinni is quite a good player and he will be a success a t Juve. Now look whats happening.

Elia atm isn't Juve material.

Conte knows better.

Edit: and anyone can look good on youtube. Ask Voronin and Downing.

Arquitecto wrote:The lack of faith and trust in Conte here baffles me.

Elia in the Juve board has some image that he is garrincha through all his flash and speedy dribbles.

Let me break it down to you again.

Elia was a bench player in a mid-table club like Hamburg. Ask the biggest Netherlands fan here who is very very patient with his players. Who? Redoranje. He will tell you (along with me and others) than Elia is a headless chicken with 0 end product who only deceives others by his coerver dances on the ball.

Which is why Conte places more tactically adept players with more tangible end product ahead of him.

Go ahead and laugh and curse at me but you all did the same when I told this group that Giaccherinni is quite a good player and he will be a success a t Juve. Now look whats happening.

Elia atm isn't Juve material.

Conte knows better.

Edit: and anyone can look good on youtube. Ask Voronin and Downing.

All it takes is looking at the results of the past few seasons to see why people question Conte. It shouldn't be that baffling. We have seen this team collapse in the second half of the season too many times.

If this is baffling to you, then you must have been very confused when Leonardo was shown the door at Milan.

Arquitecto wrote:The lack of faith and trust in Conte here baffles me.

Elia in the Juve board has some image that he is garrincha through all his flash and speedy dribbles.

Let me break it down to you again.

Elia was a bench player in a mid-table club like Hamburg. Ask the biggest Netherlands fan here who is very very patient with his players. Who? Redoranje. He will tell you (along with me and others) than Elia is a headless chicken with 0 end product who only deceives others by his coerver dances on the ball.

Which is why Conte places more tactically adept players with more tangible end product ahead of him.

Go ahead and laugh and curse at me but you all did the same when I told this group that Giaccherinni is quite a good player and he will be a success a t Juve. Now look whats happening.

Elia atm isn't Juve material.

Conte knows better.

Edit: and anyone can look good on youtube. Ask Voronin and Downing.

I don't know how many times it has been broken down for you . Nobody here is saying he is messi . If you have any wits about you it is easy to see our attack is missing something , And since this isn't a fantasy football league we cant just trade out players for different ones . At the moment this is what we have to work with. The kid deserves a shot being that nobody in the attack rite now brings as you say flash and speedy dribbles .

Watching that Bologna video, i can see why Marchisio does not look that good...when he seeks the striker position he can be deadly, but by only making a deffensive midfielder work he can not show all his talent.

We'e got Vidal - Pirlo - Marchisio I smell goal from Vidal it has been to long

stefanobada wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:The lack of faith and trust in Conte here baffles me.

Elia in the Juve board has some image that he is garrincha through all his flash and speedy dribbles.

Let me break it down to you again.

Elia was a bench player in a mid-table club like Hamburg. Ask the biggest Netherlands fan here who is very very patient with his players. Who? Redoranje. He will tell you (along with me and others) than Elia is a headless chicken with 0 end product who only deceives others by his coerver dances on the ball.

Which is why Conte places more tactically adept players with more tangible end product ahead of him.

Go ahead and laugh and curse at me but you all did the same when I told this group that Giaccherinni is quite a good player and he will be a success a t Juve. Now look whats happening.

Elia atm isn't Juve material.

Conte knows better.

Edit: and anyone can look good on youtube. Ask Voronin and Downing.

I don't know how many times it has been broken down for you . Nobody here is saying he is messi . If you have any wits about you it is easy to see our attack is missing something , And since this isn't a fantasy football league we cant just trade out players for different ones . At the moment this is what we have to work with. The kid deserves a shot being that nobody in the attack rite now brings as you say flash and speedy dribbles .

You clearly did not understand my point.

My point was to condemn all the Juve fans who criticize Conte for not using him as the way its stated, Elia seems like a would be savior for the right flank.

Elia is everything that you DONT need in Juve as what Juve does need is more efficiency and end product within the final third and Elia provides the opposite of that. If anything, he provides entertainment at best.

Juve need a player who can further link up and provide creativity. Look elsewhere if your looking at Elia for that.

Whoever said anything about trading him? The problem lies within other factors and Elia wouldn't bring much to the table.

Juventude wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:The lack of faith and trust in Conte here baffles me.

Elia in the Juve board has some image that he is garrincha through all his flash and speedy dribbles.

Let me break it down to you again.

Elia was a bench player in a mid-table club like Hamburg. Ask the biggest Netherlands fan here who is very very patient with his players. Who? Redoranje. He will tell you (along with me and others) than Elia is a headless chicken with 0 end product who only deceives others by his coerver dances on the ball.

Which is why Conte places more tactically adept players with more tangible end product ahead of him.

Go ahead and laugh and curse at me but you all did the same when I told this group that Giaccherinni is quite a good player and he will be a success a t Juve. Now look whats happening.

Elia atm isn't Juve material.

Conte knows better.

Edit: and anyone can look good on youtube. Ask Voronin and Downing.

All it takes is looking at the results of the past few seasons to see why people question Conte. It shouldn't be that baffling. We have seen this team collapse in the second half of the season too many times.

If this is baffling to you, then you must have been very confused when Leonardo was shown the door at Milan.

Comparing Conte and his Juve to the Juve of Ferrara, Ranieri etc is frankly ridiculous as the difference in quality and tactics between the team is a mile wide gap. Need I explain the differences? I hope not.

But, I can understand the general Juve perspective of caution and worry. Point being, every team goes through a slump or poor run of games as statistically the teams that are winter champions, undergo their slump within exactly this time around. Its normal for these things to happen but where the difference is in Conte who I have 100% belief in that he can turn things around given his caliber.

Leonardo? He was shown the door simply because he gave ultimatums to Berlusconi (which you do not do). What does he have to do with this?

Plus Conte's Juve have done far better than Leo's Milan anyway.

I think you misunderstand some of the other point too.

Noones saying Elia is the next messiah.

Some of us are saying that Elia cant be ANY WORSE than our current crop of attackers who seem toothless at the moment. So why isnt he being given a chance as we clearly need something different.

He has talent. Although he lacks certain qualities to make him a regular in 'Contes first XI', he has qualities which todays Juve need currently - i.e. pace, power, creativity and an ability to shoot the ball TOWARDS goal (take note Vucinic). He may not be the heralded answer to our current problems, but he clearly has those superior traits to our most of our current attackers.

We dont need MORE passing, weve got enough ppl around to do the 'tracking back', so we have enough people on the field to do what he cant do very well. We should use what he CAN do very well.

And Im sure many doubters will be pleasantly surprised at what he can bring. He has enough pace to regularly get in behind the fullbacks in Seria A and he has enough creative nous that he can create attacking situations where our currents ones wouldnt be able to.