Re: Nuri Sahin's case

by II Capitano Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:11

Apparently, it's confidence issues and that he feels pain when he plays a long ball, which I found absurd, which was confirmed by Marca or AS, I remember reading it somewhere. Sahin has played decent in the games he has featured in, that long ball assist to Callejon was gorgeous in every way, and they'll be more to come of that. Having Xabi Alonso and Sahin side-by-side could do Real Madrid a favour, but you need someone like Khedira to complement one of them, anyway. Javi Martinez, had to bring up his name, is one of the best at defending and attacking - and has more often that not this season, been linked with Real Madrid.

by Le Samourai Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:12

Dunno really , he's cautious....he likes his players.Really doub't Albiol will miss the Euros though....

Mou dosen't enjoy letting go of guys like Granero and Sahin....he's cautious...hhe eventually let Canales go because he's 19 and it's still ok for him to develop elsewhere.

I don't approve of it either, I love Mou but it's honestly disturbing how stubborn and reactive he is.

by EarlyPrototype Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:14

Javi would be paired with Alonso. Sahin would be benched for good till Alonso becomes crap.

Turkey coach said Sahin is 100% fit. So no fitness excuses.

by la bestia negra Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:15

zizzle wrote:Sahin to inter for peanuts

moratti

inter to win the CL hmm

by Le Samourai Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:20

Hala: No.

Mou praised Granero months before he got any substantial minutes.He originally praised him about 1 1/2 years ago and we're just seeing him start a couple consecutive matches.

Benz didn't work hard......This is why we need Perez signings...because at least the institution is forced to exhibit confidence in them.

Don't see where this hard work thing is coming from...you seriously think Kaka is working harder than Sahin?It's BS ....Sahin is a hard worker....it's not like he misses practice , where is your evidence.

Altintop getting minutes in his spot is a disgrace I don't even want to get into.Not because Altintintop dosen't deserve minutes....but there iis no logical explanation for playing someone who is basically a utility player, in front of an established specialist

by VanDeezNuts Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:21

well now that its confirmed that is is not a fitness issue, we can assume that mou is an ass hat for not selecting him..

i mean come on there have been many times when he hasnt even been allowed to travel or sit the bench, let alone get 10 minutes here and there in games we already have wrapped up.

by guest7 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:23

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:10 points up in the league and complaining about team selection...

Sometimes I wonder if you listen to yourselves...

Couldn't agree more.

by zizzle Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:27

supra969 wrote:
zizzle wrote:Sahin to inter for peanuts

moratti
inter to win the CL

we need to qualify first, or avoid relegation on the current form Sad

by la bestia negra Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:28

zizzle wrote:
supra969 wrote:
zizzle wrote:Sahin to inter for peanuts

moratti
inter to win the CL

we need to qualify first, or avoid relegation on the current form

rhh youll get back up remmber the days bayern played in the EL

by halamadrid2 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:30

@ Le Samourai

Mou about Granero:

"It pained me to leave Granero in the stands against Real Sociedad because nobody works as much as he does"

"He is physically fit, intelligent and has a great heart. He always wants to help the team."

Perez isnt in charge of anything football related in our club, he gave all freedom to Mourinho

Mou about Kaka

“I've known the real Kaka,” Mourinho said. ... and I'm happy that he has been called up to the Brazilian national team because he's earned it through hard work".

Mou about Altintop

"Altintop is fine, but he isn't in great form because he didn't have a preseason and underwent surgery. The minutes he played against Ajax were a reward and proved to be stimulating".

Again he has emphasised over and over again that he has rewarded them because they've worked hard and won him over

Never in an interview has he said that Nuri has worked hard, he only said that he needs to work hard until he gets his chance, i mean its obvious its by his own doing, the moment he trains like the others he will start to get mins and at least sit on the bench

by Doc Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:34

I, like everyone else here, don't know the real reasons but I sincerely doubt it's because Sahin isn't a hard working person in training.

by Le Samourai Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:40

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t16951-real-madrid-coach-mourinho-nuri-sahin-working-well-in-training

by Mr Nick09 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:42

halamadrid2 wrote:@ Le Samourai

Mou about Granero:

"It pained me to leave Granero in the stands against Real Sociedad because nobody works as much as he does"

"He is physically fit, intelligent and has a great heart. He always wants to help the team."

Perez isnt in charge of anything football related in our club, he gave all freedom to Mourinho

Mou about Kaka

“I've known the real Kaka,” Mourinho said. ... and I'm happy that he has been called up to the Brazilian national team because he's earned it through hard work".

Mou about Altintop

"Altintop is fine, but he isn't in great form because he didn't have a preseason and underwent surgery. The minutes he played against Ajax were a reward and proved to be stimulating".

Again he has emphasised over and over again that he has rewarded them because they've worked hard and won him over

Never in an interview has he said that Nuri has worked hard, he only said that he needs to work hard until he gets his chance, i mean its obvious its by his own doing, the moment he trains like the others he will start to get mins and at least sit on the bench

Le Samourai wrote:https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t16951-real-madrid-coach-mourinho-nuri-sahin-working-well-in-training

theory busted, what's next?

by halamadrid2 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:44

uhhmmm, how is this working hard???? or theory busted, did you even read it???

"Nuri Sahin is doing better and will be on the bench again tomorrow. We'll see if he plays or not; it will depend on the game and my needs," said Mourinho.

EDIT: in fact it only proves my point LMFAO

by Ganso Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:45

yeah,it doesnt really say something about his training

by Le Samourai Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:47

The reporters question was about training ffs.

by halamadrid2 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:47

yes, and he said "he is doing better" i.e. he didnt even do good to start with Rolling Eyes

by izzy Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:48

I think its safe to say that no one in this thread has a clue about whats going on an are doing one of 3 things:

1. Blame Mou
2. Not Blame Mou
3. Be Crimson

3rd option seems to be the smartest right now.

by halamadrid2 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:49

yes the less damaging one eh??

by Lord Hades Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:51

i am more concerned with: is it really a big deal , we have far bigger fish to fry, we can all evaluate the effect of signings later but its not as if we are in dire need of sahin or something..

by izzy Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:52

halamadrid2 wrote:yes the less damaging one eh??

The one that doesn't complain and cry about a situation they have zero facts, sources or evidence about.

But if you guys want to play the blame game.............

by halamadrid2 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:54

is him having played a game on the whatever date in December and being done for the season to make way for more important players such as Kaka and Altintop(so that they can get into match fitness), a better excuse?????

fair enough

by izzy Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 20:58

halamadrid2 wrote:is him having played a game on the whatever date in December and being done for the season a better example?????

fair enough

Awwww, but that is not what Crimson said. Don't manipulate it. He specifically said it was not vital to play him right now.

I'd rather wait for conclusive facts and sources before jumping to conclusions and making myself look very foolish on an issue I don't know much about.

Do you guys know something Mou and Sahin don't know? If do, please share.

by halamadrid2 Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 21:02

well i have provided quotes were Mou specifically says he has rewarded said players because they deserved it, while in Sahin's case he says he needs to work hard(er)

but i am not saying i know it per se, only that, that's probably the best excuse someone could come up with seeing as he is fully fit and running

I edited my post after you quoted me *frown*

by Doc Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 21:03

izzy wrote:Awwww, but that is not what Crimson said. Don't manipulate it. He specifically said it was not vital to play him right now.

I'd rather wait for conclusive facts and sources before jumping to conclusions and making myself look very foolish on an issue I don't know much about.

Do you guys know something Mou and Sahin don't know? If do, please share.

No one knows. Nick's policy is to blame Mourinho since he is the one in charge. Hala's policy is to blame the player since Mourinho rewards hard work.

by Le Samourai Thu 1 Mar 2012 - 21:04

I honestly blame the media...........

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