How many titles would Arsenal have won in the past 7 years if they convinced Messi to switch clubs instead of Cesc?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:01 pm

Albiceleste wrote:Here's a good article on Messi back from 2004 by Mundo Deportivo, if you can read Spanish, it's a good read and pretty interesting to look back on.

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http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/2004/07/12/pagina-12/766444/pdf.html

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http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/2004/07/12/pagina-13/1405720/pdf.html

De hecho, a mediados de septiembre de 2003 el Arsenal quiso llevárselo. Insistió al entorno del jugador, perono pudo convencerle para que se marchara. Acto seguido los 'gunners' focalizaron su mira en la figura de 'Cesc', en un culebrón con el final que públicamente ya se conoce. También durante ese mismo mes el ManchesterUnitedquiso llevarse al jugador, aunque en este caso lamaniobra nopasó deunsondeo. En cambio en octubre, el Inter de Milan acercó, por medio de Luis Suárez, una oferta importante para que Leo mudara su fútbola la península itálica, sin éxito.

In fact, halfway through September in 2003, Arsenal tried to take him. The player's environment encouraged it, but they couldn't convince him to go. Arsenal then refocused their energy on Cesc, a 'culebron' (complicated and polemic very public transfer) that is well known by all. Also during that same month Manchester United tried to take him, although that move didn't go past the inquiry. In October, Inter Milan tried, through Luis Suarez, and offered him an important offer for Leo to move his football to Milan, it was unsuccessful.
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Post by Sushi Master Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:06 pm

A few FA and Carling cups are a must.

Perhaps a league... and if Arsenal won a league back then, perhaps it would be a totally different club than it is now. Too many variables come into play. Messi might not want to have left, Arsenal winning trophies and all.

And maybe he would have been good for the NT :lucas:

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:08 pm

Good for the NT? Most every EPL star flopped in the WC, they should extend their breaks :lucas:
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Post by Sushi Master Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:13 pm

Jesus, imagine how burnt out Messi would be in the PL. I can see the Arsenal injury curse hitting him, and maybe he wouldn't be as good a player as he is now due to constant injuries from fatigue and overexertion.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:26 pm

He probably would have left before he won them something :lol!:

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Post by FennecFox7 Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:31 pm

He would be injured all the time affraid
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Post by Dutti Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:40 pm

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Post by Lord Hades Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:41 pm

messi isnt that injury prone, i havent seen him get any sort of serious injury for 3 seasons

he couldve given them an edge in cup competitions and maybe won the 2008 or 09 league title
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Post by Emaharg Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:54 pm

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Post by Blue Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:54 pm

Lord Hades wrote:messi isnt that injury prone, i havent seen him get any sort of serious injury for 3 seasons

he couldve given them an edge in cup competitions and maybe won the 2008 or 09 league title

Messi was known to be injury prone early in his career.
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Post by Lex Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:03 pm

It would have been Messi instead of Eduardo on the end of that tackle back in 08 that pretty much ended Edu's career

Too gruesome to even think about
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Post by DuringTheWar Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:53 am

Cant tell until messi actually plays for a normal team. How he would adapt to being the only outstanding player on his team i dont know, he hasnt done it for argentina yet, i think perhaps because he lacks leadership
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Post by guest7 Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:19 am

messi was kind off injury-prone pre guardiola so imagine messi with arsenals injury crisis

he would still be the same player though, wenger is probably the best man to devolop youth
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Post by Highburied Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:06 am

How about both??

Fabregas and Messi..

Walcott would still be at Southampton.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:15 am

It was work permit issues in the end.

But as they say, things happens for a reason. Messi was destined for Barca
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Post by El Gunner Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:18 am

He would've got the "Arsenal injury curse"!

Then he juz would've played 5-10 times a season, and we'd feck up his career and none of us would've witness his wonderful talent
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