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Post by Guest Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:13 pm

France is the same way as Spain... I actually think that the football factory setup was initiated there and then followed by Spain. If France and Spain can maintain these academies, they will both have very good teams all the time. Problem with France is that we like to self destruct for whatever reason... But we always have a top shelf squad and, with the amount of youth being produced, that's not going to change.

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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:34 am

France have a very good youth.. I agree with sportsczy, I visited paris and they really gave me a challenge. I have a cousin who is crazy good in paris and he has a huge chance of making it pro for sure, and that is of course thanks to their great youth system. Don't forget Algeria. Algeria has some of the best players at my age I have ever seen (along with france)
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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:22 pm

Doc wrote:While I wouldn't deny that Spain is producing more talent than they used to (you know, since you're actually in Spain), I don't think any country can produce as many quality players in abundance as Brasil does. To show you how insane Brasil is, they had to skip a "footballing generation" (Adriano, Kaka, Diego, Ronaldinho) and went with green horns like Pato, Neymar, Ganso, Lucas (Sao Paulo), Ramires and still look mightily dangerous.

But I would gladly admit Spain is not that far behind. May I ask how exactly did this take place. Was it inspired by Germany's youth revolution or just a really good crop of youngsters Spain has been blessed with?!

I do believe it is because of Cruff with Barcelona. I know most people in this forum don't like to hear this, but it is around the time Cruff told barcelona to fix their academy doing something like Ajax, that things began to change here. But as I said earlier the style etc has evolved. One clear difference is most futbolers get involved in coaching after their playing days so we have a wealth of coaching depth (for all ages).
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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:23 pm

Sorry Sportczy, I'm biased. I think the Spanish factory is superior to France's.
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:29 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Sorry Sportczy, I'm biased. I think the Spanish factory is superior to France's.

Remember that in 2000, France was exactly in the same place as Spain is now... WC and Euro champs with a vaunted youth system.

As far as Italian players (and English ones too), they never leave their domestic leagues. It just almost never happens. That's why you may not hear about them as much. I followed Serie A a lot and they had a boatload of talent there. England... they have good players. Just not as good as they think and there isn't a lot of tactical diversity there (although better today than in the past as foreign managers have taken over). So when they go against different tactics as part of their NT, they look like deers in the headlights very often.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:30 pm

Which player does Neymar remind you the most of?
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:32 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Which player does Neymar remind you the most of?

Honestly... Ronaldinho.

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Post by guest7 Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:34 pm

The sad thing is, had Ajax come in terms with Cruyff, maybe they would be the ones dominating the world today. It's so sad that the coach of Ajax had to argue with Cruyff. It pains me that Barcelona are dominating as much as they are now, I truly hope it will end.

Probably not so bad for you Senor Bill, after all Spain is also getting some of the perks.
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Post by Doc Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:42 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Which player does Neymar remind you the most of?

A slightly taller Romario...
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