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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:50 pm

EJ thank you.


Seppaku, I rest my case.

El Mystique.... Really man... Its embarrassing now. Come up with something better and more concrete.

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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:51 pm

You have a problem with calling people hooligans? - because a hooligan is actually considered racist by the irish

What about Barbarian? because there is no more xenophopic term in the english dictionary

and what about Gypsy? there is no more insulting word to Romanians

and my Personal favourite........since I've been labelled this one far too many time in my short stints in London....Paki?heard of it right?

No it isn't racist......actually it is.

So jog it on......you expect Suarez to know the nuances of your own language when you do't even know them yourself.

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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:51 pm

I'm still waiting for evidence and use of better logic then the poor deductive reasoning the supporters of the ban have used.


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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:51 pm

aleumdance wrote:


suarez clearly know the culture difference, suarez knows that the words n*gro and n*grito are seen as normal in americas but bad in England

but uses it on evra

woah there obi wan...
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:53 pm

Nirgal wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:seriously are people tryign to argue that suarez doesnt know that negrito or negro is offensive to black people.......gimme a break

FINALLY

Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said

i'm appaled that everyone think words all over the world have the exact same connotation.

where did he use to live...on a farm...isolated from all living organisms bar animals...jeeez

perhaps in a country in where people don't speak english. There are those you know.

english??? why english...in sweden neger is offensive as well... i am sure countries have their own language to describe it...everything doesnt evolve around english ya know
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Post by aunshi Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:53 pm

Have just checked, he may have a further ban coming from flipping off the Fulham fans.

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:53 pm

Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:I truly expected better responses from everyone here who is for the ban.

Really....Quite disappointing.

I'll give my thoughts in due time until then, ICS, Josh, Che, PS, Sep and the rest.

Job well done.

If you ever lived in Argentina or Uruguay you'd know that "negrito" is a common nickname and not a racist slur. People here expect everyone to know english speaking countries culture, but would not make a single try to understand others'

even if he made that comment in the Uruguayan league, surely you still wouldn't expect us to support him do you?

Not support him but understand what he meant.

u can try and understand someone who deliberately calls a black person "negrito"... Shocked

not understand the person. But understand the meaning of the word. why is it so difficult to understand that some words that are considered racist and offensive in some countries are not. The world is does not only revolves around english speaking countries. In spanish "negro" means black. "negrito" is the diminutive form of that word. And in Rioplatense spanish (of Argentina and Uruguay") the word is used as a nickname regardless of race and without any insulting connotations.

I wonder how it would feel if Rooney was running around a black Liverpool player and saying "Hey Black dude, black dude"

after all

negrito = black and no harm

so black = English term for the color according to some...
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Post by TheRedStag Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:53 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:seriously are people tryign to argue that suarez doesnt know that negrito or negro is offensive to black people.......gimme a break

FINALLY

Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said

i'm appaled that everyone think words all over the world have the exact same connotation.

where did he used to live...on a farm...isolated from all living organisms bar animals...jeeez

Didnt you just tell someone in a previous page they need a better education?

hmm, still trying to figure out what you mean.. but yh

Exactly
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:55 pm

english_jewel wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:
Seppuku wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:bunch of sissies on this thread.

Go, live in Israel, China, Japan or Eastern Europe.

Calling names isnt smth you should get punishment that hard, maybe a talk, but not 8 match ban ffs

OMG lyke in Israel they would never give you an 8 match ban ffs!! I mean sure they'd abduct your land and arbitrarily kill you and your family. But they would NEVER give you an 8 match ban!!!Oh the travesty! What has the world come to when 8 match bans are just given so easily!!!

Why is it every time I read your posts something inside me dies?

To prevent that, you must use your grey matter and actually think you posts through before having another bout of showing the severity of tourettes like El-mystique has.

says the backer of racism....

WHERE'S THE EFFING EVIDENCE THAT SUAREZ WAS BEING RACIST?

Thank you.

oh my, this is so humorous,

now saying "negrito" to a black player is not enough evidence for verbal racism...
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Post by poolsupporter Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:55 pm

elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:I truly expected better responses from everyone here who is for the ban.

Really....Quite disappointing.

I'll give my thoughts in due time until then, ICS, Josh, Che, PS, Sep and the rest.

Job well done.

If you ever lived in Argentina or Uruguay you'd know that "negrito" is a common nickname and not a racist slur. People here expect everyone to know english speaking countries culture, but would not make a single try to understand others'

even if he made that comment in the Uruguayan league, surely you still wouldn't expect us to support him do you?

Not support him but understand what he meant.

u can try and understand someone who deliberately calls a black person "negrito"... Shocked

not understand the person. But understand the meaning of the word. why is it so difficult to understand that some words that are considered racist and offensive in some countries are not. The world is does not only revolves around english speaking countries. In spanish "negro" means black. "negrito" is the diminutive form of that word. And in Rioplatense spanish (of Argentina and Uruguay") the word is used as a nickname regardless of race and without any insulting connotations.

I wonder how it would feel if Rooney was running around a black Liverpool player and saying "Hey Black dude, black dude"

after all

negrito = black and no harm

so black = English term for the color according to some...

That wouldn't bother me at all actually.
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Post by Seppuku Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:55 pm

Arquitecto wrote:EJ thank you.


Seppaku, I rest my case.

El Mystique.... Really man... Its embarrassing now. Come up with something better and more concrete.

You rest your case? What case?

There is no such thing as tourettes, you imbecile.

It's Tourette's. And next time you want to indulge someone in an argument, it would be greatly helpful to bring forward your point. I still have no effin clue what your objection is with my comment.

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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:55 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:seriously are people tryign to argue that suarez doesnt know that negrito or negro is offensive to black people.......gimme a break

FINALLY

Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said

i'm appaled that everyone think words all over the world have the exact same connotation.

where did he used to live...on a farm...isolated from all living organisms bar animals...jeeez

Didnt you just tell someone in a previous page they need a better education?



hmm, still trying to figure out what you mean.. but yh

Exactly

dont know what to make out of this, freaky...anyways moving on lol
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:57 pm

elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:I truly expected better responses from everyone here who is for the ban.

Really....Quite disappointing.

I'll give my thoughts in due time until then, ICS, Josh, Che, PS, Sep and the rest.

Job well done.

If you ever lived in Argentina or Uruguay you'd know that "negrito" is a common nickname and not a racist slur. People here expect everyone to know english speaking countries culture, but would not make a single try to understand others'

even if he made that comment in the Uruguayan league, surely you still wouldn't expect us to support him do you?

Not support him but understand what he meant.

u can try and understand someone who deliberately calls a black person "negrito"... Shocked

not understand the person. But understand the meaning of the word. why is it so difficult to understand that some words that are considered racist and offensive in some countries are not. The world is does not only revolves around english speaking countries. In spanish "negro" means black. "negrito" is the diminutive form of that word. And in Rioplatense spanish (of Argentina and Uruguay") the word is used as a nickname regardless of race and without any insulting connotations.

I wonder how it would feel if Rooney was running around a black Liverpool player and saying "Hey Black dude, black dude"

after all

negrito = black and no harm

so black = English term for the color according to some...

black dude is specifically used in the english language to refer to someone of a distinctive race.

"Negrito" in Argentina and Uruguay is not. You can call that a chinese guy, a swedish guy or someone from any race. It makes no difference.

And even in your hipothetical case it really doesn't seem offensive to me. Maybe in england it would be i don't know.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:58 pm

poolsupporter wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:I truly expected better responses from everyone here who is for the ban.

Really....Quite disappointing.

I'll give my thoughts in due time until then, ICS, Josh, Che, PS, Sep and the rest.

Job well done.

If you ever lived in Argentina or Uruguay you'd know that "negrito" is a common nickname and not a racist slur. People here expect everyone to know english speaking countries culture, but would not make a single try to understand others'

even if he made that comment in the Uruguayan league, surely you still wouldn't expect us to support him do you?

Not support him but understand what he meant.

u can try and understand someone who deliberately calls a black person "negrito"... Shocked

not understand the person. But understand the meaning of the word. why is it so difficult to understand that some words that are considered racist and offensive in some countries are not. The world is does not only revolves around english speaking countries. In spanish "negro" means black. "negrito" is the diminutive form of that word. And in Rioplatense spanish (of Argentina and Uruguay") the word is used as a nickname regardless of race and without any insulting connotations.

I wonder how it would feel if Rooney was running around a black Liverpool player and saying "Hey Black dude, black dude"

after all

negrito = black and no harm

so black = English term for the color according to some...

That wouldn't bother me at all actually.

am sure you wouldn't...
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:58 pm

FA are messing with the wrong club.

After 22 years of fight against injustice we finally got the Sun to apologize, and Hillsborough files to be released.

Internet Warriors made 2 American Billionares to lose out 200M, when they wanted to re-finance and maintain their ownership. We kicked them out too.


We`ll take this case to FIFA/CAS , and finish FA off.

Just watch.

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Post by TheRedStag Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:58 pm

I was just pointing out that replaying to this

"i'm appaled that everyone think words all over the world have the exact same connotation."

with

"where did he used to live...on a farm...isolated from all living organisms bar animals...jeeez"

is hardly the type of thing you'd expect to come from such a well educated man such as yourself.

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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:58 pm

Seppuku wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:EJ thank you.


Seppaku, I rest my case.

El Mystique.... Really man... Its embarrassing now. Come up with something better and more concrete.

You rest your case? What case?

There is no such thing as tourettes, you imbecile.

It's Tourette's. And next time you want to indulge someone in an argument, it would be greatly helpful to bring forward your point. I still have no effin clue what your objection is with my comment.


So you finally found out what "Tourette's" is?

Good job grammar Nazi.

I don't have an objection with your comment its just some comments are just so asinine its difficult to find a polite and respectful response to them.

Its been a trend when I see your posts.

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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:58 pm

elmystique wrote:
after all

negrito = black and no harm

so black = English term for the color according to some...

negrito does not = black, negro = black

negrito is an endearing form (at least among friends), like pablito is for pablo
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Post by aleumdance Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:59 pm

che wrote:
aleumdance wrote:


suarez clearly know the culture difference, suarez knows that the words n*gro and n*grito are seen as normal in americas but bad in England

but uses it on evra

woah there obi wan...


dude even in starwars


if the Siths, had finally destroyed the Jedis, after years and decades of jedi descendants living and growing up in sith controlled universer

if a sith calls a jedi or normal citizen a " rebel scum", they would be punished for racism or alienism
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Post by che Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:00 pm

i was referring to your extraordinary mindreading powers...
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:01 pm

che wrote:
elmystique wrote:
after all

negrito = black and no harm

so black = English term for the color according to some...

negrito does not = black, negro = black

negrito is an endearing form (at least among friends), like pablito is for pablo

As usual, you continue to enlighten the genius' here but seeing as how people don't comprehend any of the corrections made by you or anyone else.... you'll have a long night.

It'll be funny to see his next response.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:01 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:I was just pointing out that replaying to this

"i'm appaled that everyone think words all over the world have the exact same connotation."

with

"where did he used to live...on a farm...isolated from all living organisms bar animals...jeeez"

is hardly the type of thing you'd expect to come from such a well educated man such as yourself.


isolated=never seen foreigners

living in a city=interacting with people of different races

reading between the lines its called
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Post by Nirgal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:01 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:seriously are people tryign to argue that suarez doesnt know that negrito or negro is offensive to black people.......gimme a break

FINALLY

Suarez clearly knew the impact of what he said

i'm appaled that everyone think words all over the world have the exact same connotation.

where did he use to live...on a farm...isolated from all living organisms bar animals...jeeez

perhaps in a country in where people don't speak english. There are those you know.

english??? why english...in sweden neger is offensive as well... i am sure countries have their own language to describe it...everything doesnt evolve around english ya know

Because you are acting as if everyone should be completely aware of the connotation that all words have in your language. Without even considering the possibility that those may not exist or may be different in others.

i've already explained what "negrito" means in spanish. and how it's used in Argentina and Uruguay,
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:02 pm

Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
elmystique wrote:
Nirgal wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:I truly expected better responses from everyone here who is for the ban.

Really....Quite disappointing.

I'll give my thoughts in due time until then, ICS, Josh, Che, PS, Sep and the rest.

Job well done.

If you ever lived in Argentina or Uruguay you'd know that "negrito" is a common nickname and not a racist slur. People here expect everyone to know english speaking countries culture, but would not make a single try to understand others'

even if he made that comment in the Uruguayan league, surely you still wouldn't expect us to support him do you?

Not support him but understand what he meant.

u can try and understand someone who deliberately calls a black person "negrito"... Shocked

not understand the person. But understand the meaning of the word. why is it so difficult to understand that some words that are considered racist and offensive in some countries are not. The world is does not only revolves around english speaking countries. In spanish "negro" means black. "negrito" is the diminutive form of that word. And in Rioplatense spanish (of Argentina and Uruguay") the word is used as a nickname regardless of race and without any insulting connotations.

I wonder how it would feel if Rooney was running around a black Liverpool player and saying "Hey Black dude, black dude"

after all

negrito = black and no harm

so black = English term for the color according to some...

black dude is specifically used in the english language to refer to someone of a distinctive race.

"Negrito" in Argentina and Uruguay is not. You can call that a chinese guy, a swedish guy or someone from any race. It makes no difference.

And even in your hipothetical case it really doesn't seem offensive to me. Maybe in england it would be i don't know.

so Suarez forgot Evra's name? am sure he calls Johnson "negrito" too at training...
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:03 pm

negro=black person

negrito=little black person

woah what a difference

if anything isnt negrito worse


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Post by everest1 Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:05 pm

lol this is so, so, so, stupid.

calling someone negrito in latin america = not racist
calling someone "little black guy" in england = not racist
calling someone negrito in england = racist ???

scratch

has it been confirmed that suarez called him "negrito" and not something else that actually is racially derogatory? otherwise this seems like a bunch of fuss over nothing.
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