Juve & Fiorentina swap wingers?

Milos Krasic’s adventure at Juventus is about to end as the Serbian winger failed his last chance in the Coppa Italia game against Bologna.

The Bianconeri have received several offers for Krasic and there are plenty of admirers ready to make a move. Krasic will be up for sale in January although several English clubs including Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester United are considering a six-month loan offer.

However, Juventus could opt to use their player in a part exchange deal with Fiorentina. The Viola are also looking to get rid of Juan Manuel Vargas, who has been linked to the Bianconeri in the past and would fit in well into Antonio Conte’s formation.

Meanwhile, Vincezo Iaquinta is another player who could move away from Turin in January. Lecce seem interested considering that they are missing a towering striker to play alongside David Di Michele and Muriel.

But they will face plenty of competition for the Italian forward and will have to persuade Juventus to pay part of the player’s wage.

Sell krasic abroad!

Sick of this curse we have of selling players and them coming to bite us back in the arse. Vargas would be a good option but what I don't understand in the current juve is; are we supposed to be a central team or a wide team? It's abit awkward having SO many wingers and 3 amazing CM's that should all play at the same time which doesn't really leave enough room for wingers unless we have a lone striker which I don't think matri or quags are good enough for.

Does anyone understand where I'm coming from?

CaseyBoi wrote:Sell krasic abroad!

Sick of this curse we have of selling players and them coming to bite us back in the arse. Vargas would be a good option but what I don't understand in the current juve is; are we supposed to be a central team or a wide team? It's abit awkward having SO many wingers and 3 amazing CM's that should all play at the same time which doesn't really leave enough room for wingers unless we have a lone striker which I don't think matri or quags are good enough for.

Does anyone understand where I'm coming from?

Yep. I think the problem is that Conte originally wanted to play a 4-2-4 with a very wide team and wingers that hustle up and down the by lines all game... BUT what has happened is that the 3 CMs that were supposed to share the 2 CM spots all are playing great, while the 2 main wingers that would make the 4-2-4 great (Krasic and Elia) have yet to hit form.

So I believe Conte made a very hard but correct decision to abandon his original plan and field all 3 of Pirlo, Marchisio, and Vidal. This shows his flexibility, now the next question is whether he intends to keep the system he is running with all 3 CMs for the long term(which means sell some wingers) or switch back to his original plans (which means keep/get new wingers).

The_ItalianFool wrote:

CaseyBoi wrote:Sell krasic abroad!

Sick of this curse we have of selling players and them coming to bite us back in the arse. Vargas would be a good option but what I don't understand in the current juve is; are we supposed to be a central team or a wide team? It's abit awkward having SO many wingers and 3 amazing CM's that should all play at the same time which doesn't really leave enough room for wingers unless we have a lone striker which I don't think matri or quags are good enough for.

Does anyone understand where I'm coming from?

Yep. I think the problem is that Conte originally wanted to play a 4-2-4 with a very wide team and wingers that hustle up and down the by lines all game... BUT what has happened is that the 3 CMs that were supposed to share the 2 CM spots all are playing great, while the 2 main wingers that would make the 4-2-4 great (Krasic and Elia) have yet to hit form.

So I believe Conte made a very hard but correct decision to abandon his original plan and field all 3 of Pirlo, Marchisio, and Vidal. This shows his flexibility, now the next question is whether he intends to keep the system he is running with all 3 CMs for the long term(which means sell some wingers) or switch back to his original plans (which means keep/get new wingers).

I believe we should stick with the MVP midfield. Maybe play a 4-1-2-1-2 I know it looks like iv just made that formation up but hear me out lol.
Lich, bono, barzlagi, chiello
Pirlo
Marchisio, Vidal
Delpiero/vuci
Quag, matri

Now obviously if we sign giovinco he'd play in the vuci del piero role and vuci and quays would rotate but that means we'd have to get rid of every winger unless we wanted to have 2 game plans where we could switch it up to a 4-1-4-1 or something that relies more on width.

One things for sure, if conti can implement all our players into a system that can change into a whole completely new system while remaining with the core of the team we should have a brilliant way or shaking things up if needs be. And kudo's to conti if he can pull it off because it's obviously not that simple.

4-3-3 is the way but the only way Matri can play is with Del Piero, Vucinic or possibly Elia but more so the first two names. So, Quagliarella is the ideal option if Vucinic is unavailable.

CaseyBoi wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:

CaseyBoi wrote:Sell krasic abroad!

Sick of this curse we have of selling players and them coming to bite us back in the arse. Vargas would be a good option but what I don't understand in the current juve is; are we supposed to be a central team or a wide team? It's abit awkward having SO many wingers and 3 amazing CM's that should all play at the same time which doesn't really leave enough room for wingers unless we have a lone striker which I don't think matri or quags are good enough for.

Does anyone understand where I'm coming from?

Yep. I think the problem is that Conte originally wanted to play a 4-2-4 with a very wide team and wingers that hustle up and down the by lines all game... BUT what has happened is that the 3 CMs that were supposed to share the 2 CM spots all are playing great, while the 2 main wingers that would make the 4-2-4 great (Krasic and Elia) have yet to hit form.

So I believe Conte made a very hard but correct decision to abandon his original plan and field all 3 of Pirlo, Marchisio, and Vidal. This shows his flexibility, now the next question is whether he intends to keep the system he is running with all 3 CMs for the long term(which means sell some wingers) or switch back to his original plans (which means keep/get new wingers).

I believe we should stick with the MVP midfield. Maybe play a 4-1-2-1-2 I know it looks like iv just made that formation up but hear me out lol.
Lich, bono, barzlagi, chiello
Pirlo
Marchisio, Vidal
Delpiero/vuci
Quag, matri

Now obviously if we sign giovinco he'd play in the vuci del piero role and vuci and quays would rotate but that means we'd have to get rid of every winger unless we wanted to have 2 game plans where we could switch it up to a 4-1-4-1 or something that relies more on width.

One things for sure, if conti can implement all our players into a system that can change into a whole completely new system while remaining with the core of the team we should have a brilliant way or shaking things up if needs be. And kudo's to conti if he can pull it off because it's obviously not that simple.

I like where your heads at, that is a great thing to be able to do. Conte seems smart enough to pull it off.

The_ItalianFool wrote:

CaseyBoi wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:

CaseyBoi wrote:Sell krasic abroad!

Sick of this curse we have of selling players and them coming to bite us back in the arse. Vargas would be a good option but what I don't understand in the current juve is; are we supposed to be a central team or a wide team? It's abit awkward having SO many wingers and 3 amazing CM's that should all play at the same time which doesn't really leave enough room for wingers unless we have a lone striker which I don't think matri or quags are good enough for.

Does anyone understand where I'm coming from?

Yep. I think the problem is that Conte originally wanted to play a 4-2-4 with a very wide team and wingers that hustle up and down the by lines all game... BUT what has happened is that the 3 CMs that were supposed to share the 2 CM spots all are playing great, while the 2 main wingers that would make the 4-2-4 great (Krasic and Elia) have yet to hit form.

So I believe Conte made a very hard but correct decision to abandon his original plan and field all 3 of Pirlo, Marchisio, and Vidal. This shows his flexibility, now the next question is whether he intends to keep the system he is running with all 3 CMs for the long term(which means sell some wingers) or switch back to his original plans (which means keep/get new wingers).

I believe we should stick with the MVP midfield. Maybe play a 4-1-2-1-2 I know it looks like iv just made that formation up but hear me out lol.
Lich, bono, barzlagi, chiello
Pirlo
Marchisio, Vidal
Delpiero/vuci
Quag, matri

Now obviously if we sign giovinco he'd play in the vuci del piero role and vuci and quays would rotate but that means we'd have to get rid of every winger unless we wanted to have 2 game plans where we could switch it up to a 4-1-4-1 or something that relies more on width.

One things for sure, if conti can implement all our players into a system that can change into a whole completely new system while remaining with the core of the team we should have a brilliant way or shaking things up if needs be. And kudo's to conti if he can pull it off because it's obviously not that simple.

I like where your heads at, that is a great thing to be able to do. Conte seems smart enough to pull it off.

Thanks bro. It's just a matter of keeping our players sweet. Giving regular game time to the wingers and central players. I guess the only down side is a lack of true identity. It will take alot of hard work but should pay off if achieved!

its a disgrace that people actually think Pepe will ever be at the same level as Krasic. Krasic is the best winger we have currently and selling him will be a BIG mistake, Pepe is NOT CL material and WILL NEVER be, Krasic is QUALITY, and selling him will be hard to get another winger of his class and caliber, Vargas is NOT quality and I will repeat that every single post VARGAS and PEPE are NOT QUALITY....

I agree Elm but it just isn't worth it, some clearly have their own views, I mean how many times have we had this discussion? We do not deserve Krasic, I wish him luck and that's all. I mean it took half a game against Bologna for everyone to start cheering for Elia, meanwhile we were horrible human beings for calling his name for the past few months, that's life.

Luca wrote:I agree Elm but it just isn't worth it, some clearly have their own views, I mean how many times have we had this discussion? We do not deserve Krasic, I wish him luck and that's all. I mean it took half a game against Bologna for everyone to start cheering for Elia, meanwhile we were horrible human beings for calling his name for the past few months, that's life.

its a shame, same went for Krasic when he single handedly alongside Quagliarella kept us winning, now look where they are....

Mhm, for me it is very bittersweet to see these players on the bench- regardless of the way Juventus plays. I still have hope for Elia, Quagliarella, I am lost for Krasic.

We'll see how it plays out

I'm sorry guys but krasic has been simply awful of late and has shown no signs of improvement and tbh iv ALWAYS been critical of krasic's running, crossing and decision making which is so bad truth be told. Pepe offers us alot more right now and it obviously isn't just me who see's this as conti uses him regularly so keep living with your memory of what krasic was instead of what he is now.

And btw, if you guys think Pepe has been bad one can only imagine how bad krasic has been compared to Pepe. Like I said, there's a reason Pepe has been starting over krasic.

Pepe was one of the worst players on the field against Roma, by your logic we should turn our backs on him now.

I'm not getting into this discussion, this whole Pepe starts so Pepe is better argument is a waste of time, if that is your reasons then good for you, they aren't the reasons I would use personally.

I can honestly finger count how many games Pepe has been poor and yet he starts...... and is NOT judged by a few games,

yet Krasic has been judged by the FEW he has started..... meh....

Yeah, Pepe usually saves his average performances with a goal and that makes him a 'great player'

Oh well, I'm happy Krasic is moving on because he deserves it

Well them's football reasons so you better get used to it.

And Pepe has had one bad match all season, overall he's played consistently better than krasic anyway.

Your in denile if you think otherwise tbh.

Of course he has played consistently better because he has played consistent minutes

and no, sorry- just saying there is a reason Pepe starts without giving any reasons does not count as any sort of logical argument or lead to any logical discussion what so ever.

Thats like me having to write an essay of what are the reasons for overcrowding in prisons? and my only argument is there is a reason there is overcrowding in prisons.

Pepe had one horrible match and countless average ones, just a few capped off with a goal that to some completely overrides all the bottled chances and horrible crosses but not this critic

Krasic > forever Pepe

Vargas is more technical than krasic, krasic has incredible speed and when there is space he can cause a lot of trouble, but Vargas is miles ahead in terms of shooting,crosses,attitude.

Krasic has the potential to be better than Pepe, but that is not enough to merit us risking losing first place to "get him going."

Sorry Krasic, but you dont get special treatment. As much as I want him to break into the first line, it cannot be at the risk of even one point.

Your talking alot of nonessense Luca.

For juventus Pepe is better than krasic. Even last season krasic couldn't cross and always lost possession. I'll concede that Pepe isn't the all mighty saviour, which iv never claimed btw but he still does get into better positions and has a better cross and shot than krasic so if you want to tell me how bad Pepe is start looking at how bad krasic is instead of riding on his cock.

Even last season half of krasic's goals were lucky, even Pepe's lucky goals have still had more of his own ingenuity than krasic's did.

When krasic learns to cross before he knocks the ball out for a goal kick will I start to take notice again

Attitude? Has to be a joke, please be a joke

PLEASE BE A JOKE



losing first place by playing a quality player, come on man.............. come on
krasic is gone, leave it at that just at least be sensible.

@ caseyboi
I can say the exact same things to you, your vision is just clouded by the fact that Pepe scores a goal so you forget how average he does play. I acknowledge all of Krasic's flaw, he is very one dimensional, he doesn't back track and he is a weak finisher. I would still take him on one leg over Pepe, any day of the week.

and thankfully you won't get the chance to take notice because you don't deserve it, for the 10th time now; I wish Krasic good luck with his next club. I can't believe I got sucked into yet another Pepe vs. Krasic argument, damn it.

Luca stop implying things I haven't said. Even without goals Pepe has played consistently better. I don't see how you can't get this?

Pepe is MADE for a system like CONTE'S. That is why he is fielded.

You said he has a better cross but you didn't acknowledge the amount of mistakes he makes
You said he has a better shot but you failed to mention all the chances he missed

Of course he has consistently played better, I acknowledged this man because he has consistently played for one thing. Pepe fits Conte's football better, but I will never concede that he is the better player.