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Re: Silly season
Is he Lahm- versatile?St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:As far as i know he never did, he played RW, LW, LM, LB. maybe a real benfica fan will tell us something different, but i did my homework, and he never did.
However he is very versatile, and adapts well to any position he takes on the pitch. I think he has had to play CM at some point with benfica, something like that.
but he always does well, specially because he has an insane amount of stamina, does a undecent amount of running, and you will hardly find a more disciplined and hard working kid. It's a good protection net.
If so then I don't have any problems with his signing
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He has never played RB in his career. Big risk tbh, he may be the next Lahm and better in the future or he will just flop big time.
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people still dont get it? mourinho will take the risk, he is NEVER gonna start arbeloa or ramos if he had his ideal rb, and he will take the risk with coentrao.
he will be hailed as a genius if succesful.
he will be hailed as a genius if succesful.
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How do you know? everyone else is assuming just like everyone else.
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babun1024 wrote:Is he Lahm- versatile?St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:As far as i know he never did, he played RW, LW, LM, LB. maybe a real benfica fan will tell us something different, but i did my homework, and he never did.
However he is very versatile, and adapts well to any position he takes on the pitch. I think he has had to play CM at some point with benfica, something like that.
but he always does well, specially because he has an insane amount of stamina, does a undecent amount of running, and you will hardly find a more disciplined and hard working kid. It's a good protection net.
If so then I don't have any problems with his signing
I made this point yesterday when discussing Coentrao vs. Maicon. Assuming he does well at RB, it's one of the more appealing qualities about him.
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EarlyPrototype wrote:He has never played RB in his career. Big risk tbh, he may be the next Lahm and better in the future or he will just flop big time.
That's the thing, it's a gamble. Judging by the demand shown in signing him, one has to believe Coentrao can deliver in time. How soon he does so, that's the real issue.
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The Madrid One wrote:garay will leave. ramos will forever be mourinho's center back. and mou will force him to step up.
coentrao WILL BE OUR RIGHT BACK
coentrao-----------ramos-------------pepe-----marcelo
Since you seem so assured of how things are going to be, how do you feel about Albiol staying?
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What about in the big games:
Marcelo LW
Coentrao LB
DiMaria RW
Ronaldo CF
Against the best of teams we would have a solid LW defense capable of attacking and defending well as a team, on the right flank it would be just as good considering DiMaria's willingness and apt for tracking back. Plus no matter who we have as RB, Ramos or Arbeloa it would produce just as good defence on both wings.
We already have a solid central defence, whether it be Xabi, Sahin or Khedira even Pepe/Carvalho/Albiol.
With Ronaldo as a CF he would have the assistance of the wings and Ozil to push the counter attack and capitalise on any opportunities we get.
I believe this is the sort of stratergy that Jose would be thinking of in making the buy for Coentrao.
In our general run of the mill games you may have to rotate a few players but it would be well worth it for the advantage gained in the bigger matches and knock out rounds.
Just a thought....
Marcelo LW
Coentrao LB
DiMaria RW
Ronaldo CF
Against the best of teams we would have a solid LW defense capable of attacking and defending well as a team, on the right flank it would be just as good considering DiMaria's willingness and apt for tracking back. Plus no matter who we have as RB, Ramos or Arbeloa it would produce just as good defence on both wings.
We already have a solid central defence, whether it be Xabi, Sahin or Khedira even Pepe/Carvalho/Albiol.
With Ronaldo as a CF he would have the assistance of the wings and Ozil to push the counter attack and capitalise on any opportunities we get.
I believe this is the sort of stratergy that Jose would be thinking of in making the buy for Coentrao.
In our general run of the mill games you may have to rotate a few players but it would be well worth it for the advantage gained in the bigger matches and knock out rounds.
Just a thought....
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I dont like the idea of those Fullbacks playing attacking positions at all. I much rather have Benzema playing on the left and ronaldo CF.
We dont have to play defenders in attack to beat european teams out there, how sad is that, just like playing the counter at all times looks really awful. Not having the ball limit us in a way, and i dont appreciate that.
If he is getting Coentrao just for that, he might as well not even buy him.
We dont have to play defenders in attack to beat european teams out there, how sad is that, just like playing the counter at all times looks really awful. Not having the ball limit us in a way, and i dont appreciate that.
If he is getting Coentrao just for that, he might as well not even buy him.
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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:I dont like the idea of those Fullbacks playing attacking positions at all. I much rather have Benzema playing on the left and ronaldo CF.
We dont have to play defenders in attack to beat european teams out there, how sad is that, just like playing the counter at all times looks really awful. Not having the ball limit us in a way, and i dont appreciate that.
If he is getting Coentrao just for that, he might as well not even buy him.
Marcelo and Coentrao aren't really "defenders" playing in attack. They can both play on the LW as good if not better than they can in their respective roles as LB, certainly more so than putting Coentrao as a RB.
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Yeah they can, but the contribution of a forward like Benzema is much more valuable, even ronaldo. I have often seen Marcelo playing LW i dont like it. Coentrao is much faster than he is and he will certainly get his way overlapping but not my preference and i think our game will become somewhat predictable.
I apreciate having legit goalscorers on the pitch that will bring the danger from different avenues, and players who know how to score goals and finish. having higuain/benzema + Ronaldo is a great thing, two potent goalscoring sources that can understand attacking movements and get themselves in a position to score. and we can count on di maria and ozil to help as well.
Also, why did mourinho brought back the likes of Callejon if the idea is to have Coentrao play back up winger, specially when things point toward us playing a lot of 433 next season as well.
I apreciate having legit goalscorers on the pitch that will bring the danger from different avenues, and players who know how to score goals and finish. having higuain/benzema + Ronaldo is a great thing, two potent goalscoring sources that can understand attacking movements and get themselves in a position to score. and we can count on di maria and ozil to help as well.
Also, why did mourinho brought back the likes of Callejon if the idea is to have Coentrao play back up winger, specially when things point toward us playing a lot of 433 next season as well.
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I just don't see why he has to come here.
Just let Mourinho coach Portugal as well so he can get his Coentrao fetish fulfilled there.
Either bring Ade back or sign Aguero, don't let Benz out yet, sign another DM if Lass leaves, let Leon and Gago go.
Done for the summer.
Just let Mourinho coach Portugal as well so he can get his Coentrao fetish fulfilled there.
Either bring Ade back or sign Aguero, don't let Benz out yet, sign another DM if Lass leaves, let Leon and Gago go.
Done for the summer.
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lol ceontrao is coming like it or not.
for anyone that doesnt understand it and is still giving pitty options like using arbeloa in mourinho's plans for his fullbacks,
ur just gonna have to see coentrao for your self.
for anyone that doesnt understand it and is still giving pitty options like using arbeloa in mourinho's plans for his fullbacks,
ur just gonna have to see coentrao for your self.
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Arbeloa doesnt cut it. He doesn't attack, and Mourinho wants to play Inter-style.
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omarish wrote:Arbeloa doesnt cut it. He doesn't attack, and Mourinho wants to play Inter-style.
i hope not, i hope to see more madridisimo football next season.
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shaven wrote:omarish wrote:Arbeloa doesnt cut it. He doesn't attack, and Mourinho wants to play Inter-style.
i hope not, i hope to see more madridisimo football next season.
+2, i don't want us mimicking inter-style
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you guys dont get it, we arent gonna play inter style, mourinho wants madrid to play great football, with great counter attacking emphasis.
he will make build up play better next season, but when someone mentions play like inter, they mean have great assets like that inter team had in 09/10
the right back position is mourinho's most obsessed with position possibily
since he came he wanted maicon, that failed now he wants coentrao.
hes obviously not happy with either ramos or arbeloa as right backs for his plan on how he wants us to play.
he will make build up play better next season, but when someone mentions play like inter, they mean have great assets like that inter team had in 09/10
the right back position is mourinho's most obsessed with position possibily
since he came he wanted maicon, that failed now he wants coentrao.
hes obviously not happy with either ramos or arbeloa as right backs for his plan on how he wants us to play.
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Doesnt really make same in way tmo, Mourinho already has an attacking fullback in Marcelo. Inter didnt play with two attacking fullbacks. Maicon was going up, Zanetti/Chivu would occupy withdrawn positions.
If anything it suggest that we will put an emphasis in playing with 3 midfielders, and the fullback will provide width on both side.
If anything it suggest that we will put an emphasis in playing with 3 midfielders, and the fullback will provide width on both side.
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Zanetti does attack, as far as I know. And he played at the LB position against Barca and Maicon in RB, thus using 2 attacking fullbacks
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Nah Zanetti was busy with Messi. He wasn't attacking much.
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Zanetti does attack however in other games, might not worked out very well for Zanetti that game. I can't imagine any fullback attacking if Messi is pressuring you honestly.
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He kept Messi in his' pocket though. Awesome performance by Zanetti that was.
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Zanetti attacks as much as Arbeloa. he isnt a genuine attacking fullback, he will go up of course, but again, Arbeloa goes up as well.
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nah zanetti and arbeloa are uncomparable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-C_MtUyKYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RISz4b2LEXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6WH7ODyX5M
When Zanetti attacks, he makes you jump out of your seat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-C_MtUyKYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RISz4b2LEXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6WH7ODyX5M
When Zanetti attacks, he makes you jump out of your seat.
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2 attacking FB's are better than 1 but it leaves us a bit open unless we play a high line.
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Let's be honest, like Iniesta, I doubt Zanetti knows what his real position is :p
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