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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:44 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:but are they making the runs necessary

i mean if a certain coentrao has been enjoying more chances than benzema and higgy lately, doesnt it tell you that maybe they arent really making the runs that would break up stubborn defences

You can't make runs when there's no midfield possession and there's no long passing (Xabi is way lower the past few games to help Carvalho). You have to get the midfield handled first... otherwise, your team is cut in two.

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Post by Onyx on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:00 pm

Di Maria and Ronaldo rarely make runs. They just stand out wide then cut in with the ball.

Once again it's to do with excessive wing play.
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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:07 pm

mtfootball wrote:Di Maria and Ronaldo rarely make runs. They just stand out wide then cut in with the ball.

Once again it's to do with excessive wing play.

The problem is that what you're describing is not wing play. You create width by taking the play towards the corner flags and drawing defenders with you. You only are supposed to cut in when you have overlaps that take defenders with them and there's cut in opportunity. Di Maria and CR7 rarely fulfill the responsibilities of wingers. Arbeloa did all he could... but Di Maria and Callejon weren't using him properly. Marcelo was trying a bit too... but even he was being ignored a lot by CR7.

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Post by Onyx on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:29 pm

No what I mean is they never make any runs. Most of our attacks are based from the wings then going to the middle.

We should focus on all round play.
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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:33 pm

mtfootball wrote:No what I mean is they never make any runs. Most of our attacks are based from the wings then going to the middle.

We should focus on all round play.

I actually think that if we were more disciplined with our width, the middle would open up. Because we lack discipline there, defenders shade us for the cut back to the middle. They adjust inside out and opposed to outside in. We need to make them pay for that by taking it hard outside and peppering centering balls... and we don't.

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Post by Onyx on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:49 pm

I don't think we need 2 players on each wing. The fullbacks can overlap for width while the wingers can play centrally and have more freedom overall.

Our possession play during Mourinho's time in charge has been poor. Most of our goals have come from counter-attacks.
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Post by Albiceleste on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:52 pm

omarish wrote:
Lmao the troll accuses Babun of trolling Laughing
At this point I actually believe xabi isn't trolling and is just that :facepalm:

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Post by Guest on Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:53 pm

mtfootball wrote:I don't think we need 2 players on each wing. The fullbacks can overlap for width while the wingers can play centrally and have more freedom overall.

Our possession play during Mourinho's time in charge has been poor. Most of our goals have come from counter-attacks.

depending on the play, you usually have one side with an overlapping fullback while 3 defenders are back. You should never have both fullbacks playing forward at the same time.

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Post by Onyx on Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:25 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
mtfootball wrote:I don't think we need 2 players on each wing. The fullbacks can overlap for width while the wingers can play centrally and have more freedom overall.

Our possession play during Mourinho's time in charge has been poor. Most of our goals have come from counter-attacks.

depending on the play, you usually have one side with an overlapping fullback while 3 defenders are back. You should never have both fullbacks playing forward at the same time.

Marcelo attacking and Arbeloa back.
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Post by Ganso on Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:38 pm

i know i have already said this before,but to me,the main problem with madrid is that the wingers cant create/pass for their life,and when Ozil and Xabi have a slump of form,this is what happens.

Just another reason i personally think CR isnt the 2nd best in the world,hes simply too dependent on other factors,he isnt able to carry a team and decide games on these situations.
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Post by Onyx on Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:41 pm

Yeh the wingers don't really offer much. Maybe Neymar RW, Ronaldo CF and Benzema at LW?
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:47 pm

mtfootball wrote:No what I mean is they never make any runs. Most of our attacks are based from the wings then going to the middle.

We should focus on all round play.

the ball goes first to the wingers, and they initiate the play, there is no midfield possesion so how can you expect runs?

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Post by Onyx on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:42 pm

Yeh exactly. What I mean is we need more play in the middle which will allow the wingers to make runs.
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Post by buddytaller on Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:57 pm

I thought you people had grown out of this delusion, Ronaldo is Madrid's best player and that is without a doubt, he's given his all for the club since he came here and more than justified his huge price tag.

In his first season he dragged the newly formed Pelligrini team to Madrid's best point haul in la liga, in matches when the whole team flopped Ronaldo was there to save our asses time and time again. He even scored 53 goals last season and saved us from going 3 straight trophyless runs.

FFS, he was doing just fine until the Zagreb game, he had scored 5 goals in about the same number of matches this season and had given what could potentially be the assist of the season to Benzema (so much for he can't pass myth). He suffered an injury in that march, yet continued to play till the last minute, he even risk further injury when he came on against Levante, after having not trained for days before the match. And yesterday his cross which was met by Callejon, was the only real chance we created in the whole 90 minutes.

I get the feeling the fans here are either fickle or just ungrateful .....

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:01 am

Or maybe we rate Ronaldo differently? maybe that


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Post by FalcaoPunch on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:02 am

our mindest is always give it to the wingers.
It makes no sense. We can't say that we don't have the midfield capable of playing well.

We have lass, alonso, ozil,kaka,coentrao, granero, etc.
We don't need a 55 mill midfielder to play well. It's just our mentality is a bit effed up at the moment.
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Post by buddytaller on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:10 am

I think it's just fatigue, the players are not running as hard as they used to and there's been a slight dip in form to our top players, I wish we could rest Alonso, he's is dire need of it, playing three matches a week and travelling for hours will eventually take it's toll on any player. There's been almost no free day for rest since the away trip to Croatia, I don't think our problem is something a good rest cannot solve.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:16 am

Fatigued? in the first month of the season? scratch

They are playing horribly, not even trying to create anything, that's not fatigue

Ronaldo is a cancer to us playing better football Very Happy


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Post by Shamirr on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:24 am

takes a page from crim's book

*walks into thread*

18 frekin pages!? Are you kidding me!?

*walks out*

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Post by cyberman on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:27 am

Jesus
CR7 at Utd played some great stuff. His link up with Rooney, Evra, Scholes etc was ridiculous. He wasnt a cancer for us, he added to it.
Madrids players arent as good as you lot think. The amount of stupidity about having better individual players than us was unreal.
Your players arent of the level to bring the best out of CR7 creatively. Ozil floats in and out, Di Maria is 2nd tier, Contreao is somehow a midfielder ffs.
CR7 goes searching for goals because he doesnt trust his teammates to do it without him.
Reality is calling.

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Post by buddytaller on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:30 am

Travelling to three away games (including one across Europe and back) in seven days is tiring, it doesn't matter whether it's early in the season or not. There has been little or no time for the players to recuperate their strengths, that's basically the only reason I can find for the slump in form, Ozil is probably the most affected, during the international break he scored a hattrick, but can't seem to pass the ball now.

Hopefully our form will come back when we play three of our next four games at home, I'd hope we'd have picked more points from our travels, but we can't cry over spilt milk.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:26 am

That is not a very believable theory, they do not look fatigued, they look clueless, bothered, as if something was wrong with their way of playing.


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Post by ÖMARz on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:46 am

make benz and CR to swap positions and give CR the poaching role.

Its all hes good at nowdays anyway, or better sell him and give the poaching role to pipita

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Post by Adit on Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:13 am

On defense of him,CR is coming back from an injury,he was performing well before injury.Cant say the same for fanzema ,ozil and dive maria.

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Post by Adit on Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:18 am

If it was CR7 who missed those chances against levante,he would have been crucified by now,but guess what fanzema can miss chances and cost us games,no complaints.its lack of chances.

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Post by Chad on Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:10 am

Its way too early to be talking about selling C.Ronaldo. Calm Down!

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