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Post by white_star Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:52 pm

Can't score against Poland lol please we have such a crap defence, this guys sucks!!

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Post by Lex Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:52 pm

Szczesny :bow:

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Post by Le Samourai Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:53 pm

George Weah and Samuel Eto : Ronaldo is suffering.
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Post by FennecFox7 Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:29 pm

You guys have some hidden obsessesion with ronaldo,...
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Post by white_star Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:32 pm

^So do you!
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Post by Jeps33178 Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:53 am

Ronaldo has been almost forced to save Portugal alot of times, I guess he's sick of being the only player to actually give it 100%
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:16 am

Sorry but only playing offense isn't giving it 100%. I've never seen someone pout and stand around on the football pitch as much as Ronaldo does in a portugal shirt, it's pretty sad and those of you blaming his teammates for this are just insane.

Portugal is a good international team with good players on it, I don't know why people on here try to claim he is playing for the United States or something. You don't see Donovan pouting when he's been forced to carry us for the last 6 years or not track back. I'm a Sweden fan and they are not as good as Portugal but Ibra doesn't complain about it or Larsson before him.

There are a lot of other starts out there who have it WAY WAY worse nationally.

HE's just not that good for portugal and turns very one dimensional when he puts that shirt on and if that dimension isn't hitting then he pouts and might as well not be out there. HE doesn't have the passing game Messi has and can turn to nor will he help win the ball back for what ever reason so again he is very one dimensional.

BTW, he's not like this for MAdrid, so I think he has a little growing up to do, his national team situation could be much worse.
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:21 am

Ronaldo was a beast for the NT in 2004 playing on the wing. That's when I first saw him play and was very impressed. Even though that Portugal team was very good, he played a huge part of it.

Since then he hasn't really performed at a consistent level for Portugal imo
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Post by Le Samourai Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:25 am

@dnmac4 wrote:Sorry but only playing offense isn't giving it 100%. I've never seen someone pout and stand around on the football pitch as much as Ronaldo does in a portugal shirt,it's pretty sad and those of you blaming his teammates for this are just insane.

Portugal is a good international team with good players on it, I don't know why people on here try to claim he is playing for the United States or something. You don't see Donovan pouting when he's been forced to carry us for the last 6 years or not track back. I'm a Sweden fan and they are not as good as Portugal but Ibra doesn't complain about it or Larsson before him.

There are a lot of other starts out there who have it WAY WAY worse nationally.

HE's just not that good for portugal and turns very one dimensional when he puts that shirt on and if that dimension isn't hitting then he pouts and might as well not be out there. HE doesn't have the passing game Messi has and can turn to nor will he help win the ball back for what ever reason so again he is very one dimensional.

BTW, he's not like this for MAdrid, so I think he has a little growing up to do, his national team situation could be much worse.

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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:40 am

@Le Samourai wrote:
@dnmac4 wrote:Sorry but only playing offense isn't giving it 100%. I've never seen someone pout and stand around on the football pitch as much as Ronaldo does in a portugal shirt,it's pretty sad and those of you blaming his teammates for this are just insane.

Portugal is a good international team with good players on it, I don't know why people on here try to claim he is playing for the United States or something. You don't see Donovan pouting when he's been forced to carry us for the last 6 years or not track back. I'm a Sweden fan and they are not as good as Portugal but Ibra doesn't complain about it or Larsson before him.

There are a lot of other starts out there who have it WAY WAY worse nationally.

HE's just not that good for portugal and turns very one dimensional when he puts that shirt on and if that dimension isn't hitting then he pouts and might as well not be out there. HE doesn't have the passing game Messi has and can turn to nor will he help win the ball back for what ever reason so again he is very one dimensional.

BTW, he's not like this for MAdrid, so I think he has a little growing up to do, his national team situation could be much worse.

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OH cool. Your using the word of the day you learned in 10th grade today. Keep it up man, one day you'll have a high school education and no one can take that away from you.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:51 am

I didn't watch the match so I can't comment on the veracity of his annoyance, but some of the comments here seem greatly exaggerated...
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Post by Lex Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:55 am

This isn't hyperbole Laughing

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Post by Le Samourai Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:07 am

@dnmac4 wrote:
@Le Samourai wrote:
@dnmac4 wrote:Sorry but only playing offense isn't giving it 100%. I've never seen someone pout and stand around on the football pitch as much as Ronaldo does in a portugal shirt,it's pretty sad and those of you blaming his teammates for this are just insane.

Portugal is a good international team with good players on it, I don't know why people on here try to claim he is playing for the United States or something. You don't see Donovan pouting when he's been forced to carry us for the last 6 years or not track back. I'm a Sweden fan and they are not as good as Portugal but Ibra doesn't complain about it or Larsson before him.

There are a lot of other starts out there who have it WAY WAY worse nationally.

HE's just not that good for portugal and turns very one dimensional when he puts that shirt on and if that dimension isn't hitting then he pouts and might as well not be out there. HE doesn't have the passing game Messi has and can turn to nor will he help win the ball back for what ever reason so again he is very one dimensional.

BTW, he's not like this for MAdrid, so I think he has a little growing up to do, his national team situation could be much worse.

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OH cool. Your using the word of the day you learned in 10th grade today. Keep it up man, one day you'll have a high school education and no one can take that away from you.

It honestly wouldn't be proud of any certification received from that joke of a institution known as American high school Laughing.Word of the day? It's a word I have to commonly use especially when analysing poetry(I know it's a bit generous to categorize your writing as such but I try to give each writer the courtesy of attention to detail) but I suppose that level of analysis simply wasn't expected of you in the American system.

I made a fair point...for weeks now you've been exaggerating Ronaldo's lack of agency in defense and today you go as far as to say it's the worst you've ever seen,then you go on to cite Ibra as one who doesn't complain.Ignoring the fact that Ronaldo didn't actually complain your highlighting Ibra as "one who does not complain",considering he has done absolutely nothing of note for Sweeden exacerbated by his lethargy in both national team and club games,was incongruous and illuminated how thinly veiled your obsession with attackers playing "defense" really is.

Thanks though, once again while ironically highlighting my age and maturity level you've flaunted the fact that you're obviously more of a kid than me.

I'll indulge you and end my post with comment symbolic of my true age

Cool Story Bro.
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:20 am

Dnmac you just got owned..
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:05 am

Ah yes comparing Ronaldo's international achievements to Ibra's. What exactly has Ronaldo achieved internationally that he's so much superior to Ibra?

Does he play on a much better team?

Can he drive play and make others around him better?

Can he assist and help the team other then scoring?

Can he do anything internationally other then score and impress in the final third of the pitch.

Does he go missing for huge stretch's of the game and you forget he's on the field for Portugal?

And yes I can bring up Ibra because today for his international team he had a goal and an assist and he isn't known internationally to be someone who pouts and walks around the pitch while playing no defense.

You know the reason this thread was brought up by someone who isn't me and the same reason Ronaldo fan boys have no reason to back up what there saying other then I really like Ronaldo and stop talking bad about him.

And yes I have been putting down Ronaldo's defensive efforts for his club team because quite frankly he's pathetic at that end of the pitch and he couldn't be more selfish. Lex shows a picture of him literally standing there with hands on his hips pouting while letting play go on.

It's not like I'm making this up it's a fact and there is a reason he is known as one of the most selfish players in world football. And I honestly can't even think of anyone to compare him to when it comes to effort on defense, like I said it's totally pathetic.

If Portugal don't win the possession battle it's about an 85% chance he's going to pout, play no defense, yell at his teammates and have no impact on the game except blasting free kicks into the stands and a bunch of useless step overs while team mates are waiting for him to pass him the ball in scoring position.

Also, it's quite funny this critique is coming from a child who swore he doesn't read my posts and that he will never respond to anything I write again and his fellow fan boy with him who's one of the most obvious posters on the site and could never take an objective look at Ronaldo which means he just must not watch his international games because nothing I'm saying is wrong or even debatable.

I also don't get what either of you are saying. Do you think Ronaldo plays defense? Do you think he's not selfish? Do you think he's the same player for Portugal he is for Madrid? I mean what are you even arguing? Do you even know?

And try having a degree from somewhere of note other then living with mommy and daddy and getting out of elementary school before you go around knocking other societies school systems.

The fact is you have no achievements or real life experiences and society doesn't even think your old enough to watch R rated movies so for you to talk about analyzing poetry (must be cat in the hat) and how your school system is better then others couldn't be more funny.

Any course you have taken is pretty much at the lowest level possible not to mention you need mommy and Daddy to sign off on any important decision you make because again society doesn't believe you can handle big decisions at this stage in your life because your too wet behind the ears.

And BTW, if you want to be dumb enough to compare schooling since you brought it up go ahead , I have a high school education and a double major from the University of Virginia in Ancient History and Business Management how about you?

What do you have? The golden star award for doing all your homework this week? Or let me guess you got your really proud of your report card?

Try achieving anything academically before you talk about others. I understand a child of your age not being old enough or mature enough to be able to handle a concept as simple as that as that's probably why mommy and daddy have to give you the go ahead on any decision you make.

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Post by Arquitecto Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:37 am

Dnmac owned? Not quite.

Why are we comparing Ronaldo and Ibra on international level whereas Ibra has been levels above Ronaldo in international form throughout his career.

Ibra captaining Sweden, playing his his almost deep Trequartista role is essentially the driving force behind Sweden. Ask any Sweden fan and they will tell you he is an absolute maestro for them in playmaking and his solid goal scoring record. No close watcher of Ibra for Sweden puts him down along with the fact that he is a god damn hero in the country for some of his performances for his country playing in the deep.

He received criticism early in his career for Sweden but that was because he was played out of position as a number 9 and even winger yet nowadays, in team that focuses on physical play (which really doesn't suit him) he still excels for his team and performs in big games.

CR on the other hand is frankly put, a flop for his country. He is a shadow of the man he is for the club and many other players consistently outperform him within his international duty. Forget his sub-par performances, its hard to be impressed by him when he continues to moan and pout when things don't go his way within Portugal as this is disappointing especially considering he is the god damn captain. The complete opposite of Ibra who is a proven leader for club and country. He may be lazy at times, but thats Ibra and he has his own methods of executing procedures and in the end, performs nonetheless and quite well in all aspects for Sweden.

Lets also keep in mind that Sweden don't have the caliber of players that Portugal have yet Ibra still performs successfully.

Portugal are expected to be in higher levels of success than Sweden yet its quite obvious Ronaldo and his team aren't doing that (I won't go to my usual Portuguese stereotype here again).

I've already said enough about CR on international form but my personal point is Ibra has been miles above him in terms of consistency and performances than Ronaldo for his own country.

He really needs to step up his game (and attitude) if he wants to be known as a Figo or Costa for Portugal.




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Post by Catracho Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:48 am

Giggity5313 wrote:Dnmac you just got owned..

my Laughing of the day.

ignorant post is ignorant.
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Post by kiranr Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:22 am

@Le Samourai wrote:

It honestly wouldn't be proud of any certification received from that joke of a institution known as American high school Laughing.Word of the day? It's a word I have to commonly use especially when analysing poetry(I know it's a bit generous to categorize your writing as such but I try to give each writer the courtesy of attention to detail) but I suppose that level of analysis simply wasn't expected of you in the American system.

I made a fair point...for weeks now you've been exaggerating Ronaldo's lack of agency in defense and today you go as far as to say it's the worst you've ever seen,then you go on to cite Ibra as one who doesn't complain.Ignoring the fact that Ronaldo didn't actually complain your highlighting Ibra as "one who does not complain",considering he has done absolutely nothing of note for Sweeden exacerbated by his lethargy in both national team and club games,was incongruous and illuminated how thinly veiled your obsession with attackers playing "defense" really is.

Thanks though, once again while ironically highlighting my age and maturity level you've flaunted the fact that you're obviously more of a kid than me.

I'll indulge you and end my post with comment symbolic of my true age

Cool Story Bro.

Your post makes no sense at all Ragbir. Ibra is nothing like Ronaldo in the pouting and standing dept.
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Post by Le Samourai Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:44 am

Right.

First let's establish something.I am the last person on this forum who can be considered a "Ronaldo fanboy".I am the biggest hater there is , many will attest to that so I really hope none of the following is misinterepreted as Ronaldo fanboyism.

Well I salute you, congrats on your double major, it's a fantastic achievement something I aspire to albeit not in similar fields.By American standards, currently I'm essentially in the first year of college actually......so no by your standards I'm no longer I'm high school.The courses I do now I've been told by university officials will exempt me from my entire first year of intro courses when I actually do matriculate.

I honestly have no desire to compare my education with yours,I'm sure you're well educated and you must notice I singled out American high school for criticism for a specific reasons.I've experienced it and have taken the relevant tests (since Americans are so stubborn about this in their college application process) and I have friends who are currently experiencing it.I can safely say it's easier.It's curriculum is not at all specific,there is no depth.Not only that but the lack of structure is stunning.........I look back now and laugh at myself , to think I kicked and screamed when I was leaving Cali,now I can see my father made the right decision.

As for your questions...if you honestly feel Ronaldo can do none of those things your reality is obviously blurred.He may not be World Class at all of them but he certainly does the vast majority of those things at a level ranging from above average to excellent.

Lex's picture sure...he does that sometimes....I guarantee you you can find a picture like that for literally every player on planet earth, perhaps Martians are blessed with the ability to exhaust themselves physically with no consequences.

On principle you can't bring up Ibra.Wether or not he performs you have been quoted as saying
"Sorry but only playing offense isn't giving it 100%"
Does Ibra live up to the lofty defensive standard you demand of your players? Well if he does then even more so does Ronaldo.It's clear that for some reason an illusion where Ronaldo does no defensive work continues to be engraved on your retina.

I believe you still haven't figured out that Ronaldo never complained,he exhibited some poor body language on the field which could be provoked by many things but a fundamental discontent playing for Portugal is not what I gather at all.The guy hates losing and I can understand him, he has to perhaps find a better way to effectively hide/channel those feelings.

I take offence to one bit of your post...the bit about analyzing poetry.I take Literature seriously and it isn't multiple choice like the SAT's , it requires in depth analysis for example here is my most recent assignment which I expect will suprise you.

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Robert Whitman has clearly defined the essential conflict that is at the heart of O’Neill’s tragedy:
“...the eternal conflict between Man's aspirations and some intransigent, ineluctable quality in life which circumscribes and limits him, and frustrates the realization of those dreams which seem to make life worth living....the vast majority of the characters [in O'Neill's plays] are painfully aware that reality is never sufficient to their demands on it, and that the chalice of life is cursed by some inexorable poison which will frustrate our fondest hopes and turn dreams to dust in our grasp.”

According to Harold Bloom “No dramatist to this day, among us, has matched O’Neill in depicting the nightmare realities that can afflict American family life, indeed family life in the twentieth-century Western world.”- He explores the issues such as the breakdown of communication, drug and alcohol abuse, and isolation and we see very specific motifs develop with regard to certain characters .I will attempt to explore these themes and chart O’Neill’s well constructed development of them through his use of the elements of Drama such and trace his social, literary and economic influences and their relevance to these issues.

Thus, the "idea" of alcoholism becomes a central concept in O'Neill's tragic vision, as well as a dramaturgical device that enables him to frame that vision most effectively on the stage. O’Neill’s cynical perception of the human condition, therefore, is vividly conveyed by the figure of the alcoholic, who seeks meaning in alcohol, but inevitably finds only his own sad face reflected at the bottom of the bottle, an image vaguely mirrored by the final scene where “Jamie pours his and passes the bottle to Edmund, who, in turn, pours one. Tyrone lifts his glass and his sons follow suit mechanically, but before they can drink Mary speaks and they slowly lower their drinks to the table, forgetting them” (4.1.).Their apathetic lowering of the glasses shows that each is lost in his own grief. Even their glasses, symbolic of their desire to escape this dark frustrating reality, prove futile and meaningless in culmination.

Most grim among the play’s issues is the mother’s gradual submersion in drugs, where O’Neill reverses the story of his own life, in which Ella O’Neill overcame her addiction to morphine. O’Neill exploits Mary as a canvas to explore the causes and consequences of her addiction and how its gradual progression erodes the roots of family love. Mary’s pessimism manifests itself in her morphine addiction, increasingly cuts her off from the men and from the dialogue. The gap between them is demonstrated, by her ineptness to carry on dialogue, at which point the men abandon her to her isolation, with the excuse that she has abandoned them something Tyrone confirms “It’s you who are leaving us Mary,” Morphine” ironically suggests transformational qualities however here Anne Fleche suggests that “here it becomes symbolic of irreversible transformation—of, perhaps, change itself, the one thing that never changes”. The Tyrone’s continuously reiterate from the beginning of the play, that change is improbable. Tyrone remains cheap; Mary persists in her addiction and as a consequence so does Jamie and so does Edmund. As the play closes, the men, who were anxiously watching Mary for signs of drug use at the opening of the play, are again watching her—numbed with despair that the nightmare has recurred. Henry J. Schmidt cites the lack of action in final scenes as an example of “modern drama’s dystopian tableaus”:“(She stares before her in a sad dream. Tyrone stirs in his chair. Edmund and Jamie remain motionless)” (4.828).The Tyrones’ despite their familial love are not united in love, but rather despondency.

O’Neill also masterfully utilizes the stage to focus on illusion and dreams and how sometimes reality is unable to penetrate their shadows. Tyrone has already warned she will be “like a mad ghost before the night’s over” (3.1). “According to medical evidence,” the Gelbs note, “it is unusual for a person to become addicted to morphine unless she actively wishes to sustain the sense of unreality that it provides “O’Neill’s masterful stage directions poetically illustrate her descent into dreams. He deliberately embeds “ a peculiar detachment in her voice and manner , as if she were a little withdrawn from her words and action”(61) and further he confirms that she “has begun to drift to dreams again”(109)Mary appears with her wedding dress, the picture of “girlish innocence” (4.1). A new voice is heard in the final sequence of the play: she speaks the language and has the thoughts of a young girl. She is so far removed from her current circumstance that she we are perhaps led to believe that she is her dream has become her reality. Mary even concedes her life of fantasy and escapism “What did I come here to find?” Mary murmurs poignantly. “It’s terrible how absent-minded I’ve become. I’m always dreaming” (4.1).O’Neill agonizingly draws out Mary’s descent into the spell of nostalgia which her poison (morphine) creates to engrave within his audience the perturbing image of the illusory world of drugs and addiction.

O’Neill constructs this play with a sense that it’ end is inescapable. Tom F. Driver argues, O’Neill’s image in “Long Day’s Journey into night” is that of a world where “there is no future”. The title of this play suggests from the outset the importance of time. The action, which chronicles a single day in the Tyrone family from morning to midnight, traces in linear fashion its inexorable descent into darkness. The fog, which has dispersed with the new morning but gradually sets in again as the day wears on and thickens to an impenetrable blanket by night. The morning sunshine becomes a “faint haziness” (act 2.1) by lunch, increasingly dense by early afternoon (act 2.2), and a thick fog by evening, which is analogous to “a white curtain drawn outside the windows” (act 3). By midnight, we learn that, the “wall of fog appears denser than ever” (act 4).This use of fog to emphasize the linearity structure of the play which in and simultaneously becomes symbolic of inevitability of nightmare realities which persisted in early 20th century American family life which, just as light(and darkness) must unavoidably overcome day , eventually erode the sense of hope we experience at the beginning. As Laurin Porter eloquently put’s it “As the curtain rings down, the Tyrones remain locked in time; nothing has changed”.
O’Neill also takes time to contemplate the suffocating effect of Capitalism on the existence of both the family and the individual in early 20th century American family life. James Tyrone is repeatedly accused of acquiring property at the expense of his family’s needs and desires and Edmund in an outburst eventually blames his miserliness for Mary’s addiction” It never should have gotten a hold on her! I know damned well she’s not to blame! And I know who is! You are! Your damned stinginess! If you’d spent money for a decent doctor when she was so sick after I was born, she’d never have known morphine existed” .In spite of possessing property valued at a quarter of a million dollars in Act 4 moment his his love of bargains resurfaces, “the glare from those extra lights hurts my eyes,” “there’s no use making the Electric Company rich.” Here the light that he seemingly is unable to endure is that which unmasks the veracity of claims that he is in fact a cheapskate. However James Tyrone avoidance of light here is a dramaturgical device which hints at his inability to confront his own mistakes and his addiction to money which he undoubtedly knows has directly contributed to his family’s suffering.

Apart from presenting the ineludability of his tragic end O’Neill also probes the question of isolation on the individual. Mary is always either sending her family away (to trim the hedge, to go to the doctor or leaving them (physically, by going upstairs to lie down, or psychologically by taking morphine).When she is left alone at the end of act 1 O’Neill delicately utilizes sound to articulate her uneasiness at being left alone “But suddenly she grows tense again. Her eyes open and strains forward seized by a fit of nervous panic. She begins a desperate battle with herself. Her long fingers warped and knotted by rheumatism drum on the chair driven by a insistent life of their own, without her consent”. The repetitive isolated sound made as her fingers strike the chair evokes a dark ominous mood within the audience generating tension and a sense of falling apart which foreshadows her later relapse and it’s consequent effects on family life. From this moment forward, the play begins to move toward the final disintegration of the family.

The disengagement of each family member into their own world is according to Laurin Porter “reflected in the symbolic arrangements O’Neill has prescribed for each of the three family meals, events that mark the passing of time” which O’Neill compliments with movement and configuration. Early, the family unites in laughter at what they perceive is, the Shaughnessy’s “great Irish victory”(25).However soon there is a unmistakable alteration as Mary has given way to the temptation of morphine. Each member responds to Mary’s relapse by withdrawing silently from the others. Tyrone “goes to the screen door, staring out,” Jamie fills a pipe and goes to look out the window at right, and Edmund “sits in a chair by the table, turned half away from his mother so he does not have to watch her” (71).Jamie and Tyrone are unable to confront their mother and thus prefer to use their windows as tools of escape, while Edmund, is left helpless unable to confront his mother in isolation. By dinner the pretence of unity has gone neither Neither Jamie nor Edmund has returned for supper, and Mary uses the pain in her hands as an excuse to go upstairs and “rest.” As she moves off through the front parlor, James “stands a second as if not knowing what to do. He is a sad, bewildered, broken old man. He walks wearily off through the back parlor toward the dining room”( 123).James here is paralyzed , already separated to confront his wife, he can only retreat to the dining room isolating himself from Mary and the pain she represents.

With his intricate dialogue, and a masterful manipulation of irony and imagery O’Neill forces his audience to contemplate the influence of memory and the past on daily life. To escape the pain that this fear brings, Mary withdraws, via the morphine, into a happier past. Robert C. Lee points out that Mary moves steadily, by stages, in this direction. He writes: [Mary] “retreats in memory from the unmanageable present (1) to the history of her unhappy married life (2) to Edmund’s painful birth and her introduction to drugs (3) to Eugene’s tragic death (4) to her courtship with James Tyrone (5) to her pious convent days.”This sets the stage for the ironic dying moments of the final scene, which parodies the liveliness of the opening scene, offering instead a physical unity but a disjointed consciousness.”Mary appears in the doorway . . . The uncanny thing is that her face now appears so youthful. Experience seems ironed out of it. It is a marble mask of girlish innocence, the mouth caught in a shy smile. Her white hair is braided in two pigtails which hang over her breast. Over one arm, carried neglectfully, as if she had forgotten she held it, is an old-fashioned white satin wedding-gown” , She has ignored Tyrone’s sarcastic warning “Yes, forgets! Forget everything and face nothing! It's a convenient philosophy if you've no ambition in life”(1.1) and has omitted every torturous memory of her existence, now developing a personality which coalesces all of her happiest memories.O’Neill transmits this complete shift of demeanor in his mimietic art,removing from her all signs of age and designing an image which will haunt the audience as a spectacle of a woman completely void of reality living thtrough her happiest recollections.The wedding dress is a symbol of this making her reminisce upon the happiest day of her life while the fact that she has forgotten ever holding it alludes to the depth of her temporal and chronological confusion.

@Arq

I don't follow either's international career with any sort of detail to comment on the caliber of their international performances.I've watched almost every game the guy has played against Spain and from the bottom of my heart (which as you know dosen't have much space for Ronaldo) he has performed admirably.He really has.

Not just offensively but in our clash at the World cup defensively as well.

Recently Ronaldo has been excellent defensively, he has been pressuring , he has been coming deep to attempt to win the ball, I really can't fault his recent defensive work it is all jokes aside my favorite part of his (compared to other Real Madrid players) limited game.I must stress recently.

On Ibra , that's expected of him he does what he does.....Ronaldo's achieved some degree of statistical sucess and in all honesty during his younger days achieved a level of international sucess ( team wise) and perhaps personally yet to be matched by Ibra,

Anyone who thinks Real Madrid can be the same player away from Real Madrid is overrating Ronaldo and underrating those who play alongside him at Real Madrid.He dosen't have the skillset to be first option and for Potugal amazingly more so than for Real Madrid( something I honestly didn't believe to be possible) still relentlessly feed him the ball.Their midfield isn't capable of getting him the ball in the spaces he's accustomed to and they refuse to pass to better attacking options such as Nani.

Futile.
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Post by free_cat Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:15 am

@Lex wrote:This isn't hyperbole Laughing

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That's got to be photoshopped. I mean, it looks like some sort of a joke or something.

When was that, the 5-0?
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Post by black mamba Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:00 pm

who can blame him? he is not Figo
and portugal doesn't get too many penalties like real madrid so he can score lol

overrated player who will never win shit woth portuagl until he retire :coffee:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:05 pm

@black mamba wrote:and portugal doesn't get too many penalties like real madrid so he can score lol

My personal lol of the day

Also dnmac vs josh got way too personal for a football forum, I don't believe dnmac got owned (although as per usual I agree with him on almost everything) but seriously spouting about education levels on the internet? You guys should be above that.
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Post by Lord Spencer Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:18 pm

Let us all compare our ePenis sizes while we are at it as well.

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Post by Guest Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:06 pm

Josh, you claim to not follow Ibra's or Ronaldo's international career and you still go on to have an opinion :facepalm:

I've dealt with Josh in the past quite a bit and while you seem like a bright kid, you still lack the ability to learn from certain members of this forum. You still haven't learned to sit back and listen and I don't pick on you because I enjoy it, I want you to grow as a person and not always be on the offensive.

I agree that bringing up education is meaningless and has no place on a football forum (I myself didn't even manage to graduate). Both of you come across and foolish when you try to trash the other's education system and I'll have you know that school isn't the only place where you can learn and educate yourself. Life experience counts for a lot and while I do have issues with the places I went to school, I would never knock them and try to diminish what they can offer others. I just think that schools have yet to learn that not all students learn the same way and that kind of ruined my school experience.

@Lord Spencer, it's great to have you back. I would be up for comparing epenis sizes, but I wouldn't want to embarrass everyone on the forum :coffee:

I haven't been posting as frequently these days, but that might change now that the messiah has returned. Hope to see you around the Milan section.

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Post by Doc Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:39 pm

Speaking of Costa, Portugal could really do with a Rui Costa right about now.
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:37 pm

Rui Costa, Figo, Simao, Deco...Portugal really miss these players in the NT.
Also, Maniche was a beast in the NT.

Portugal NT's problem in the last 10 years has been a world class striker. If they had one, I think they would have won Euro04, and might've made it to the WC06 final. Pauleta was good, but not WC imo

But now, they have more problems than just a striker..
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