Messi's amazing form

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:

aleumdance wrote:

Bénin wrote:Messi makes the extraordinary looks ordinary and therefore boring

i am so glad I was alive to catch Dennis Bergkamp and Zidane before they reitired

Exactly. Bergkamps goal against Newcastle or Argentina are true glimpses of the extraordinary, messi might be better but he doesn't have that kind of breath taking ability

aleumdance wrote:why do I have strong feeling most of you started taking football seriously in 2008?

watch football pre-messi, yes messi is super world class, but something players could do, messi is not up to erm

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:

aleumdance wrote:

Bénin wrote:Messi makes the extraordinary looks ordinary and therefore boring

i am so glad I was alive to catch Dennis Bergkamp and Zidane before they reitired

Exactly. Bergkamps goal against Newcastle or Argentina are true glimpses of the extraordinary, messi might be better but he doesn't have that kind of breath taking ability

Collblanc wrote:

aleumdance wrote:why do I have strong feeling most of you started taking football seriously in 2008?

watch football pre-messi, yes messi is super world class, but something players could do, messi is not up to erm

I joined La Masia in 2001. Please dont act you know what you are talking about. Messi is ten levels above Zidane and Bergkamp. Zidane is a player the likes of Ibrahimovic - shows up rarely in games. Bergkamp is even a worse kind of player. Had a couple of good moments. No Cruyff, Pele, Maradona. Messi is even above those 3.

aleumdance wrote:

Collblanc wrote:

aleumdance wrote:

you just answered my theory( thanks for the analysis).

so do you think ronaldo does not get "zonal marked"

I ask you again, please share your sources on this. He gets zonal marked, not man-marked, so not marked(!) by more then 1 player. Get your facts straight please.

mate stop using google translator. I get ur point but you are confusing me now.

as for ronaldo, man marking him would be totally useless so he also gets zonal marked.

Dnmac4 wrote:"On the other hand, don't mention that Alexis should be sold. For some reason his constant floping and tap in missing is seen by many Barça posters as a "good sign" and a reason he should be a starter."

I didn't know people thought he should start.

I have seen forwards / wingers in a slump but I have never seen even bad player miss as many easy chances as Alexis this year. You can tell he wants to be taken out of the game a lot of the time.

I hate to cut on him because he does work hard but this isn't little league where you get a trying hard medal.

I counted 2 basically tap-in's today and another 2-3 VERY EASY chances. In fact I would say he had the 2 easiest chances of the match and he didn't get anywhere close to scoring.

And comparing him to Pedro I don't think is correct. IF Pedro doesn't play well he works hard just like Alexis but his passing is much much better. Alexis just passes it to the other team Mascherano style a couple times a game for no reason a lot of the time when we are attacking and in position to score. That is a very easy way to give away goals when playing for Barca.

Bénin wrote:

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:

aleumdance wrote:

i am so glad I was alive to catch Dennis Bergkamp and Zidane before they reitired

Exactly. Bergkamps goal against Newcastle or Argentina are true glimpses of the extraordinary, messi might be better but he doesn't have that kind of breath taking ability

You are just used to see him past 3-4 players and score , that's the only reason you are sayingthis man. How many players could run past 3-4 defenders like that. Believe me had bergkamp( ) scored goals like the newcastle one on a daily basis you would have forget how beautiful it is .

As i always said , Messi makes the extraordinary looks ordinary and this is sign of greatness. I understand why some people are ''bored' though. Nothing new here

eelir wrote:

aleumdance wrote:

Collblanc wrote:

I ask you again, please share your sources on this. He gets zonal marked, not man-marked, so not marked(!) by more then 1 player. Get your facts straight please.

mate stop using google translator. I get ur point but you are confusing me now.

as for ronaldo, man marking him would be totally useless so he also gets zonal marked.

I get your point dude, Ronaldo is marked heavily, only a fool would not think to mark a what is arguably considered a second best player in the world. But, com on, Messi gets marked more than any other player in the planet, as he is un-arguably THE BEST at this moment. And with shitty attackers/wingers we are playing this season, he is marked even more.

Collblanc wrote:Best goal I have ever seen in real life. Best player ever.

Niyameddin wrote:aleumdance,
you are an idiot. you should gtfo and let us enjoy the moment

harhar11 wrote:

Dnmac4 wrote:"On the other hand, don't mention that Alexis should be sold. For some reason his constant floping and tap in missing is seen by many Barça posters as a "good sign" and a reason he should be a starter."

I didn't know people thought he should start.

I have seen forwards / wingers in a slump but I have never seen even bad player miss as many easy chances as Alexis this year. You can tell he wants to be taken out of the game a lot of the time.

I hate to cut on him because he does work hard but this isn't little league where you get a trying hard medal.

I counted 2 basically tap-in's today and another 2-3 VERY EASY chances. In fact I would say he had the 2 easiest chances of the match and he didn't get anywhere close to scoring.

And comparing him to Pedro I don't think is correct. IF Pedro doesn't play well he works hard just like Alexis but his passing is much much better. Alexis just passes it to the other team Mascherano style a couple times a game for no reason a lot of the time when we are attacking and in position to score. That is a very easy way to give away goals when playing for Barca.

Really? Villa in his first and, especially, 2nd season until he got injured was missing chances like crazy.

If you have forgotten, here is probably the worst miss that I have ever seen..



He was sooo bad that I remember many wanted to sell him. They thought that his time at the top was over...

And dont forget that our greatest striker ever, Eto'o, was was awful in the 2nd half of the treble season..

Funny how fickle fans are..

Bénin wrote:

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:

aleumdance wrote:

i am so glad I was alive to catch Dennis Bergkamp and Zidane before they reitired

Exactly. Bergkamps goal against Newcastle or Argentina are true glimpses of the extraordinary, messi might be better but he doesn't have that kind of breath taking ability

You are just used to see him past 3-4 players and score , that's the only reason you are sayingthis man. How many players could run past 3-4 defenders like that. Believe me had bergkamp( ) scored goals like the newcastle one on a daily basis you would have forget how beautiful it is .

As i always said , Messi makes the extraordinary looks ordinary and this is sign of greatness. I understand why some people are ''bored' though. Nothing new here

RealGunner wrote:Can we please stick to the topic

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:

Bénin wrote:

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:

Exactly. Bergkamps goal against Newcastle or Argentina are true glimpses of the extraordinary, messi might be better but he doesn't have that kind of breath taking ability

You are just used to see him past 3-4 players and score , that's the only reason you are sayingthis man. How many players could run past 3-4 defenders like that. Believe me had bergkamp( ) scored goals like the newcastle one on a daily basis you would have forget how beautiful it is .

As i always said , Messi makes the extraordinary looks ordinary and this is sign of greatness. I understand why some people are ''bored' though. Nothing new here

Mate I am used to seeing maradona dribbling past 3 or 4 players it isn't like he started to look ordinary. Players like bergkamp and zidane (and Diego) had such a technical class that they could conjure something unique, and unrepeatable, messi is not like . Messi does not have such a moment of pure genius like them, really. Look at that goal vs Newcastle, are you saying messis dribbling is more breath taking?

Am I saying messi is less effective? No, I am saying running with the ball is not as breath taking as a piece of technical genius.

harhar11 wrote:About Messi being marked more heavily than C.Ronaldo. Seeing as I don't watch Real Madrid play cause they bore the sh... out of me, I generally dont watch them so I can only say when it comes to Barca - Real Madrid and if anyone really tries to tell me that C.Ronaldo gets marked just as much as Messi does in that game, then either you are a liar or a Cristiano Ronaldo fanboii.

free_cat wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

Dnmac4 wrote:"On the other hand, don't mention that Alexis should be sold. For some reason his constant floping and tap in missing is seen by many Barça posters as a "good sign" and a reason he should be a starter."

I didn't know people thought he should start.

I have seen forwards / wingers in a slump but I have never seen even bad player miss as many easy chances as Alexis this year. You can tell he wants to be taken out of the game a lot of the time.

I hate to cut on him because he does work hard but this isn't little league where you get a trying hard medal.

I counted 2 basically tap-in's today and another 2-3 VERY EASY chances. In fact I would say he had the 2 easiest chances of the match and he didn't get anywhere close to scoring.

And comparing him to Pedro I don't think is correct. IF Pedro doesn't play well he works hard just like Alexis but his passing is much much better. Alexis just passes it to the other team Mascherano style a couple times a game for no reason a lot of the time when we are attacking and in position to score. That is a very easy way to give away goals when playing for Barca.

Really? Villa in his first and, especially, 2nd season until he got injured was missing chances like crazy.

If you have forgotten, here is probably the worst miss that I have ever seen..



He was sooo bad that I remember many wanted to sell him. They thought that his time at the top was over...

And dont forget that our greatest striker ever, Eto'o, was was awful in the 2nd half of the treble season..

Funny how fickle fans are..

Villa was great in his first season, what are you on?
He never missed like 5 tap ins in a row, and that chance is not even for Barça, it's a spain chance.

aleumdance wrote:

Niyameddin wrote:aleumdance,
you are an idiot. you should gtfo and let us enjoy the moment

WHERE YOU HERE FROM THE START?

THIS WAS NOT AN APPRECIATION THREAD

2 DAMN THREADS GOT BUMPED, CONFUSING ANY NEUTRAL READING