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Post by pasquale22 Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:45 am

We all witnessed barza put in a great performance last night . Made several key tackles and while some may be surprised about his BOG performance we must understand this game was coming. He's been very good since he came to us and it's a testament to him. Conte has alot of faith starting him ahead of an investment like Bon bon. Any of you guys think he can maintain his spot or even force us not to buy rhodolfo
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:48 am

pasquale22 wrote:We all witnessed barza put in a great performance last night . Made several key tackles and while some may be surprised about his BOG performance we must understand this game was coming. He's been very good since he came to us and it's a testament to him. Conte has alot of faith starting him ahead of an investment like Bon bon. Any of you guys think he can maintain his spot or even force us not to buy rhodolfo

though he's been fantastic so far, let's wait and judge his performance against better sides...
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Post by Juventude Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:51 am

Rhodolfo or another option will be needed for depth in January, regardless of Barzagli's performances.
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:52 am

Yeah Rhodolfo would still be a good buy so that Sorensen could leave on loan and get playing time.

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:57 am

Juventude wrote:Rhodolfo or another option will be needed for depth in January, regardless of Barzagli's performances.

if Conte has no plans for Rhodolfo, I'd say we let him stay where he is or go to a team where he would get playing time, it would hurt to see another join the new list of benched foreigners...
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:00 am

In January:
Offer Pepe for Criscito
Buy Rhodolfo, loan out Sorensen

Esti, Elia, Krasic, Giacch for the wings

Come at me

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Post by Juventude Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:00 am

Luca wrote:Yeah Rhodolfo would still be a good buy so that Sorensen could leave on loan and get playing time.

Good call. I completely forgot that Sorensen didn't leave on a loan move at the close of the window. We definitely have to make a signing in January and let Sorensen get a loan deal. If Barzagli can hold his form, which is still questionable because we're judging him on performances against Parma and newly promoted Siena, then I'd prefer that we sign more of a cheap veteran alternative like a Capedevila. I think we would waste money on a player like Rhodolfo because he wouldn't get enough playing time to grow and I think Conte would put him below Bonucci on the depth chart. (If Conte is having language and tactical issues with European experienced players Krasic, Esti, and Elia, then Rhodolfo will not jump Bonucci for playing time very quickly.)
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Post by DeviAngel Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:00 am

barzagli is great Rodholpho can play RB and LB as I read from fans
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Post by Juventude Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:02 am

Let's not hype up Barzagli too much. I hope he continues to do well, but we're talking about games against Parma and Siena.

I wish i could bring back old goal.com posts people made about Motta after the first couple of games and we all know how that ended.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:03 am

Luca wrote:In January:
Offer Pepe for Criscito
Buy Rhodolfo, loan out Sorensen

Esti, Elia, Krasic, Giacch for the wings

Come at me

add Giach to [send back to Cesena], we can be good that way,

but Pepe as back-up for Krasic can work, but Giach must go back...... he is not worthy of the shirt...
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:04 am

Juventude wrote:
I wish i could bring back old goal.com posts people made about Motta after the first couple of games and we all know how that ended.

:bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by pasquale22 Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:35 am

For the guys saying let's not judge him so quickly. I specifically say 'since he's been at Juve which is 10 months. I'm not judging him based on thee 2 games , however he has been great so far this season
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:36 am

Barzagli is getting old... sure he's a solid choice... but then again we got Bonucci... so, what's the need in bringing Rodolfo?
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:53 am

For depth so that Sorensen can be moved, Rhodolfo can also play as a RB, eliminating the need for Motta.

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:54 am

I'd get someone who can play LB Smile
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:55 am

Caceres can play everywhere, he would be my top choice to be honest

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Post by Juventude Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:56 am

If it's purely for depth, I say bring in a cheaper experienced player. If there is an expectation that a player like Rhodolfo or someone else will one day take over the role of CB or LB, then I'm fine with spending a little more on a player like Rhodolfo.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:58 am

If it's for depth... might as well keep Sorenson then...
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Post by Juventude Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:00 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:If it's for depth... might as well keep Sorenson then...

Nah. He needs to develop. His growth shouldn't be stunted just so Juve can have a fourth CB. It's to Juve's benefit to send him out on loan.
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:00 am

Sorensen needs to play somewhere, earn experience and first team football like Pasquato, Giandonato and Giovinco are doing.

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:02 am

Pasquato has had enough experience, Giovinco as well and from what I see from Conte he would be an ideal starter, Giandonato agreed.

And if he needs to develop so be it... isn't he already loaned?
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Post by Juventude Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:04 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Pasquato has had enough experience, Giovinco as well and from what I see from Conte he would be an ideal starter, Giandonato agreed.

And if he needs to develop so be it... isn't he already loaned?

sadly, no. that's the problem.
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:04 am

No, Sorensen remains with Juventus unless I am wrong.
He should have been loaned.

And then a cheap or versatile defender should have came, Rhodolfo/Caceres ideally.

Chiellini
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Bonucci
XXXXXX

Decent depth, Sorensen is at the bottom currently

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:05 am

I thought Soreson went to Lecce with Pasquato? wtf...
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:07 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:I thought Soreson went to Lecce with Pasquato? wtf...

he is still with us...
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