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Post by ErPupone Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:16 am

I agree with Benny here. Enrique did make some strange decisions, but he didn't cost us the match. We were lacking that final ball to get through to goal. Also our play was a little slow at times, but it's normal because these guys still don't know each other that well. Gago did a good job after coming on, but he'll do even better once he really gets settled in, same thing goes for Pjanic.

Tony, you're really splitting hairs here and you're just looking for an excuse to bash Enrique. You're ranting again about his tactics, though they weren't an issue tonight. We managed to shut down Sneijder, Milito, Zarate, Forlan and co. away from home, at San Siro. I think we could mark this result down as positive and move on.

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Post by narbeZ Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:49 am

Inter looked absolutely terrible. My advice to Morratti is to get rid of Gasperini as soon as you can and snatch Pioli.

For me, the players are trying to figure out what Enrique is trying to do. It seem's nearly half our lineup is out of position.

I think he is starting to realize that he may have to adjust his tactics a bit more to suit calcio. This game should have been 2-0 at least with all the chances we had and shoddy defending from Inter.

Overall, we did have a few bright lights though being....

-De Rossi was boss, along with Kjaer.
-Pizzaro played a decent game and created width in the mid.
-Borini took his chances well, and has boatloads of pace.
-Pjanic got to take a free kick finally.



This game to me though should have been 3 points.
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Post by InterMalia Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:54 am

I clearly remember us having the more clear cut chances. 4 shots on target while Roma had 3, shots off target was 8-5. You had more possession though, Gasp fearing for his job combined with Roma pushing high up the field. This was the first time i watched Roma in a competitive game. I liked Spalletis tika taka more than this version. Pass the ball a bit faster and the midfielders try to take on players more than they did today(Pizzaro did that effectively today)
you'll become a frustrating team to meet.
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Post by McLewis Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:23 am

I was quite pleased with us overall. Yes, we missed quite a few chances and I'm incredibly glad that Stekelenburg will be ok. That was nasty from Lucio and it should've been a red card. Simple as that. You don't go in on the keeper like that. Ever.

As for our full-backs, Perrotta impressed. His energy and his ability in possession were simply invaluable down the right. Taddei was generally solid defensively against Nagatomo, but his mistake near the end had my heart in my mouth....not the answer at full-back. Will be glad to have Jose Angel back.

Burdisso and Kjaer did quite well tonight, but both were rather poor on the ball. We need at least one ball-playing defender with the ability to take the ball out of the back and neither one of those guys could do that today without putting us in danger. Other than that, they were excellent.

De Rossi was imperious tonight. That's what we needed from him. He showed experience, leadership and fantastic technical skill in front of the defense to begin our attacks. His influence was absolutely crucial today.

Was quite glad to see Pizarro not only back, but his usual self. Always tidy in possession and always knows where and when to make a telling pass. That's why he's so important to this team. Pjanic was a mixed bag today. His passing was somewhere between poor and purposeful, but just couldn't really exert any influence on the match. I'm really impressed so far with Gago when he comes in. He adds not only balance, but surprisingly and refreshingly, pace to the midfield. At times, we were quite pedestrian in our passing game, but with Gago, the tempo goes up and we start asking questions of the opposing defense. The time is drawing nigh that this guy may need to get a start.

Totti was good today, but very wasteful. I'd chalk it up to him being constantly shadowed by Cambiasso. He didn't have the space to line up the shot like he normally does so his influence was curtailed a bit. Osvaldo once again flattered to deceive. Good movement, but his decision making was woeful tonight...he's still learning how to link up with Totti and the midfield, but with Borini's performance tonight, he's gonna need to up his game.

As for Borini, a real threat to Inter's backline. He had Rannochia's number all night and turned the young Inter defender so many times tonight. I was hugely impressed by him considering that this was the first time I had seen him play. If he was knocking on the door before, he surely is now. Boriello and Osvaldo are officially on notice I would imagine.

Overall, I think we came out the better side tonight. Luis Enrique doesn't have to deal with the pressure that Gasperini had on him for a positive result so despite this being a goalless draw, I'd say LE acquitted himself just fine, despite some odd decisions.

Looking ahead to the game against Siena...we can't take them lightly. We always play well against top opposition only to get complacent against the lower sides. That's gotta stop.
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Post by JAY-Z Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:24 am

Borini had a really, really good performance last night.Thats what we needed, a fast striker.

Im pleased with the result, given the circumstances.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:02 am

I bash Enrique because I find him as the problem and once again today his decision making proves what I said in the past week about him.
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Post by ErPupone Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:22 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:I bash Enrique because I find him as the problem and once again today his decision making proves what I said in the past week about him.

What problem? We got a good result. Last year at this point we had already lost to Cagliari 5-2 and tied Cesena 0-0, this year it's a bit of a step up. And he made one questionable decision which didn't go that well, and that was his last substitution. But that's it... you're looking for excuses to bash him man. And even if he does fail in the end, you won't be able to say that you were right about him, because now you're just firing aimlessly.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:49 am

Mike, I don't know, but don't you find it odd that I would be finding excuses? Why would I make excuses... If anything, up to this point, I've been completely positive with both Sabatini and Di Benedetto as well with all the Totti Drama on this forum lol... I've called Sabatini a god, I praised Di Ben as he made more than his promise and defending Totti. Me 'bashing' Enrique has a reason to it, and the reason is once again, that he to me is a problem. In detail, the problem has been out plenty times and in the other topic. Why am I truly upset? Well, Palermo actually managed to defeat Inter last week and you know Palermo's story, with all the crazyiness going on and in comparison also eliminated from EL llike Roma... But yet, Roma tied against Inter? Why? Well from what I saw, and from you confirmed from the descions makings I previously said, they were wierd and questionable. Meaning wrong... And if they didn't happen then I believe Roma actually would of picked up a big win off of Inter. I'm sorry, but I'm not statisfied with a tie, even if it's the begning, even if last season it was worst, this is a new era, it's different now. I see a big Roma here, with great players, but with a coach who just to me has no idea what he's doing.
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Post by ErPupone Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:29 am

But you tossed Enrique aside without giving him a chance, that's the problem here. You don't agree his tactics so you're looking for any excuse to throw that against him.

Firstly, just because you question one of his decisions, just because some of his decisions may be weird, it doesn't automatically mean they're wrong. That's the way he sees things tactically, and really who are we to judge him so soon? If anything, I find what he did today quite courageous and he has already showed that he has personality. Now, he just needs time, which brings me to my second point. You say that you see a great Roma with great players and you are demanding instant results. Yet, that goes against everything that Sabatini and Di Benedetto have said and done throughout the whole summer. They are constructing a team for the future which will take time to gel and reach it's potential. You praise Di Benedetto and Sabatini, but by demanding instant results and criticizing Enrique to this extent, you are going completely against the ideas and actions of the very people that you are praising.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:17 am

Fine, I'll give him another chance :facepalm:
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Post by ErPupone Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:24 am

No, it's not about another chance. We're not Inter where Gasperini is already gasping for air after 3 matches. We have a long term plan here, we're not awaiting quick results. Di Benedetto said it himself, we could lose every game this season, but we're still going to stick by Luis Enrique. It's a project for the future not only for the players, but for the coach as well. Mistakes will be made, it's inevitable. But if we're going to pick at every move he makes, we'll be in for a long, long season. I'm not saying we can't discuss the decisions he makes, but we can't condemn him for each wrong one. Our fans are going to have to approach this season very carefully with a lot of patience.
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Post by sukrut23 Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:35 am

osvaldo again played and sucked... i hope to see borriello against siena and borini was decent..

well one thing is clear now heinze is a cb and if luis enrique played tardeei above heinze at lb then we have serious problems if anything goes wrong with jose angle..

we were lucky to get a point out of the game but thats done, i hope we get our scoring boots on against siena on thursday..

p.s.-- still not convinced with luis enrique's tactics..
stekelenberg, get well soon
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:38 am

@Mike Yes, just that the majority of them have been wrong lol...

P.S I agree
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Post by schnix Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:24 pm

http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2292/editorials/2011/09/18/2671246/gasperinis-inter-struggles-continue-but-roma-already-showing]Gasperini's Inter Struggles Continue, But Roma Already Showing Signs Of Improvement Under Luis Enrique

couldn't have said it better

...Whatever happens, the Giallorossi will look to play attractive, flowing football all the while. They know where they’re going. Inter haven’t a clue right now.
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Post by McLewis Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:42 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:@Mike Yes, just that the majority of them have been wrong lol...

P.S I agree

Who cares?

I begin to tire of this incessant need to constantly criticize a man you know nothing about. Did you watch Barca B last season? Do you know LE's tactics inside and out? Cause I sure as hell didn't and don't. You're going after this guy like he's the worst manager we've ever had for a project this big. You know nothing about him and because that uncertainty, you jump to negative conclusions each time he makes a mistake.

This is a learning experience for everyone involved. Us the fans. The players. Luis Enrique himself. Di Benedetto and the entire hierarchy. Everyone's finding out new things about everyone. As Mike said, mistakes will be made and there will be plenty of them to sink our teeth into, but this isn't the time for that.



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Post by flameas Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:33 pm

We looked much better and LE has a plan, unlike Gasperini. If we stick with it, our first win should come over Siena for sure.
Hoping to see Lamela replace Osvaldo to add some much needed explosiveness to our attack. Speed is essential if we play fast-flowing - throwpass oriented football. The player who runs onto the throwpass cant be slow.
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Post by schnix Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:53 am

at least LE is adapting. he's not as stubborn and rigid as i thought originally. against inter, we saw 50% LE tactics and 50% roma tactics

LE used to frown on long balls. but we saw a few of those against inter. so at least we seem to have found some sort of middleground
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:59 pm

His tactics are based within La Liga ones, in which is a major concern about them working out in Serie A.
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Post by sukrut23 Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:45 pm

dam! its all about luis enrique in here and nothing on roma.... Sad

any news before the siena game?
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Post by schnix Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:02 pm

sukrut23 wrote:dam! its all about luis enrique in here and nothing on roma.... Sad

any news before the siena game?

perrotta and derossi rumored to form centerback partnership in the back, osvaldo to start again, totti to play in goal in place of stekelenburg with lamela rumored to replace him in the 75th min
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Post by sukrut23 Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:07 pm

schnix wrote:
sukrut23 wrote:dam! its all about luis enrique in here and nothing on roma.... Sad

any news before the siena game?

perrotta and derossi rumored to form centerback partnership in the back, osvaldo to start again, totti to play in goal in place of stekelenburg with lamela rumored to replace him in the 75th min

may be i should wait till thursday...

p.s.--damn!!
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