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Post by OLpower Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:57 pm

Reading this forum , watching some Arsenal matchs and some stats, it seems that these players are seen as huge disappointments and as big weak points in Arsenal Squad.

Chamakh: He was a very good player in Ligue 1, an essential element in Blanc title with Bordeaux. He is useful in the game, great with is header and always found a way to weight over the shoulders of defenders. His physical play should have allowed him to adapt well. He started well last season, scoring games after games but no he does not seem trusted at all by Arsenal fans.

Koscielny, was a big hope in ligue 1, Lorient had made another fantastic finding by signing him and developping him into a future potential NT players.

Squillaci: This is the biggest question for me , here he seems to be considered as the worst player ever when he was very good for us and it was a terrible mistake when we sold him. He was class, able to score, and really hard on the man? The season he played with Cris, they were easily the best pair of defender of the french championship.

So what happenned to them? Why these once highly rated player have turned into such disappointment?
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Post by bloodless Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:03 pm

Koscielny is quality...chamakh is very low on confidence with our style of play not helping...his greatest asset is quality in air

squillaci was always shyte

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Post by RealGunner Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:24 pm

Koscielny is amazing, he isnt the one Arsenal fans dont like. He was also our better defender against man utd.

Squillaci is SHIT. We bought him in panic. Wenger was after Subotic but he said he doesnt want to leave Dortmund, so as a result he bought Squillaci.

Chamakh. Dont know what happened to him
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Post by Raptorgunner Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:27 pm

Koscielny is great player, we have high hopes for him.
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Post by Sushi Master Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:30 pm

Yeah, Kos is class. Don't judge our players by our last performance. Let's all wipe that from our memories and move on.

Chamakh needs to start a few games to regain his confidence, but it's just not happening with us doing how we are. VP is irreplacable unless we switch to 4-4-2.
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Post by Kaiser Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:41 pm

Koscielny is average, should be nowhere near a team who wants to win major trophies, but apparently we don't. He's technically good, quick on the ground to snuff danger out, but he's also error-prone, quite weak compared to PL strikers, and rash aswell.

How have we gone from Tony Adams, Sol Campbell to this I'll never know.

Chamakh is also average, started well last season but doesn't have the heart for the fight now. A striker who cannot shoot, haha, you couldnt make it up.

Squillaci looks not built for English football, terrible signing from Wenger, as bad as Silvestre.
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Post by Wilson37 Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:45 pm

Koscielny is a top quality player.. He has improved so fast within a single season and will continue to do so...
I dont know how u can put him in the flop signings list.. Amazing signing at a very low price...
How can a player loss everything like Chamakh.. He didnt even have an injury.. It just disappeared..
Squillaci is just to fill the bench.. So dont consider him as a signing...
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Post by Kaiser Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:50 pm

Koscielny made loads of errors last season, and has continued in similar fashion this year.

He was hardly cheap either.

I bet he'd do well in La Liga.
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Post by TalkingReckless Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:54 pm

Kaiser wrote:Koscielny made loads of errors last season, and has continued in similar fashion this year.

He was hardly cheap either.

I bet he'd do well in La Liga.

Kos was solid all last season when paired with Djourou....but when with Squid we always lost....


this year he is been more then solid with Vermealen..... but Crap with Djourou....who is a headless chicken atm...
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:52 pm

It's impossible for a CB to be effective without a decent fullback and CB partner. In fact, any weak link in a defense kills it... including poor defensive support from the midfield.

The whole defensive philosophy for Arsenal is incorrect imo. Wenger wants to outscore you as opposed to protecting the goal. While i understand this... there are definitely times (opponent, game situations) where you need to tighten the gaps defensively. Arsenal just doesn't do that.

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Post by Ali Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:44 am

I still find Chamakh and Kos class
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Post by Twoism Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:37 am

Kos this season apart from last game, improved quite a bit. Last season, he's kinda flashy defender who had jaw dropping tackles since he relies on his reading of the game. That brought the best and the worst out of him, one misread could lead to disaster. I noticed less of it since pairing with TV, must be TV leading the line.

Toto is always shit so no argument there. At this point, I don't think lack of confidence is Chamakh downfall, more like he's so comfortable being on the bench knowing not in this life time he would be ahead of RVP. I'm more for loaning him, keeping Bendy at this point.

Johan puzzles me the most, I really don't know wtf is happening to him. He took one good step forward then two giant jump back, whatever made him great last year all disappear. Now we see Johan of the old who lots of us dread
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Post by REWB Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:03 am

chamakh is not average....he is terrible, way worse then average. kos is very underrated just because he is in a back four that concedes alot of goals. and squid is an alien
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Post by Emaharg Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:45 am

Kos for me is a good third choice. But the amount of times he is caught on the wrong side of opposition forwards is astounding.
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Post by djoe26 Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:43 am

Emaharg wrote:Kos for me is a good third choice. But the amount of times he is caught on the wrong side of opposition forwards is astounding.

Third choice? really? He has been great for arsenal except for some mistakes but that happens to every player. Put him with Verminator and see diffrence. And you cant judge him for match against Man utd cause everyone played shit and our key players were missing.
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Post by since1996 Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:51 am

djorou is poor. a mid table team defender. Senderos myt have been better. i knw a lot of u will start to fire me but but look at arsenal.com's top 5 greatest games in europe and who was in defence. Senderos. against Milan senderos! Very Happy
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Post by boss Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:17 pm

Kosovo lool i mean Kos. is a talented guy absolutely but he should work a lot alsoo ! Chamakh -to leave..he's just not 4asn anymore ,or even EPL ! Squillacy he's not that bad as people thinks but agree he should leave so. We have no time to lose ! that's it.

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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:25 pm

Chamakh is an example of why you should never fall off the boat as a football player. He was very good, then sorta lost ALL of it. He's doing good with the NT however, you guys should watch him there. He rapes everyone with NT, when morocco don't play with him they look lost. It's a mental issue and not a skill issue.

And chamakh can shoot but he never does it.. lol.
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